how to combat islamic state.rench president francois hollande is on a diplomatic mission, looking for allies in a war against the i.s. terrorist organization. it is to be a new alliance involving germany, russia, and britain with airstrikes against i.s. strongholds. is that enough? calls for ground troops are growing louder. their deployment would be dangerous with an uncertain outcome. what is the best way to combat i.s.? coming to you from berlin, quadriga. the international debate. your host, peter craven. peter: welcome to this latest edition of quadriga. the shocking terrorist attacks in turkey, lebanon, paris, and tunisia, as well as the downing of a russian passenger plane, have either been claimed by or blamed on islamic state. today, we are asking how to combat i.s. i am joined in the studio by three analysts and commentators. let me introduce you, beginning with ulrike herrmann, a journalist with taz. she says to fight a war, you need money, which is why we need to cut off the cash flow to islamic state

when it comes to islamic state yes, they want to take revenge. but the major is to consolidate on this land. that is what happened. by the way, islam is a symbolic, historian, symbolic meaning for them. why? because it used to be the temporary or summer of the caliphate. it is asked dreamily important for them. they did not choose muslim to be there, they chose something else for their symbolism. because they consider also it is critical. >> it is extremely important for them how they look at history and read it very well. so to conquer and consolidate their grip and then expand on their surrounding. so i believe now, witnessing what is happening in syria, it seems seems the shift of priorities now. so this change of ideology or strategy is an extremely important. as if there now less to combine the islamic doctrine and al qaeda doctrine together. at at the beginning they are against al qaeda doctorate, we want to concentrate on the region. on establishing the state. when we establish the state we will look at other. it seems now because they are

yes we can defeat the islamic state. it is not undefeatable. ut the problem is, we have to have a plan. as i mentioned, it is the most secure state in the whole of the middle east. the bladder moving to the west. people are immigrating to the west. we we have to set up a good example for the people so they can see that we have this model for you. it's a model of coexistence and model of prosperity and human rights and independence. we have to actually say look, we are working for a long-term future. we are not going to repeat our mistake in iraq and libya. we have are a plan and we have our be plan. in this actually the meeting finished. there's why did it not actually establish institutions and libya? why did it not tried to reform them? okay the united states is the most advanced country in the world. it's the biggest empire. it's the strongest empire in our history. okay they invaded iraq. why did they not bring sectarian to iraq? they are a multicultural country. they need help establishing a quality. how do you make people coexist with each

the islamic state. one is a journalist who twice interviewed osama bin laden, the the other is a researcher who interviewed former isis prisoners held in iraq. then governors of at least 27 u.s. states say they will not accept syrian refugees, despite the u.n. is urging the world to help the men and women fleeing violence in syria. >> the reaction to the wave of refugees we are seeing should be one of compassion, empathy. these are people who are fleeing the very destruction of daesh we've seen in paris. amy: we will also speed to the cousin of nohemi gonzalez, the 23 old american student killed in the paris attacks. she has been described as a proud first-generation mexican-american. we will speak to her cousin in los angeles. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now! democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. russian authorities have confirmed a bomb brought down a passenger plane over the sinai peninsula in egypt last month, killing all 224 people on board. the self-pro

we want these guys to fight the islamic state.hese guys want to fight al-assad and the regime which they see as responsible for the deaths of 300,000 syrians and the displacement of far more than half of the population. of course the regime being shi'a supported by iran, lebanese hezbollah, the quds force and others. and the opposition being sunni arab. and they feel very much -- by the way, of course the sunni arab is vastly the majority in the country. so that is the challenge that we have. and i think we have to commit to support them against the regime as well as against the islamic state. noting that i am not one who is in a hurry to get rid of bashar al-assad until we have a sense of what might follow him. he can't be part of the solution. he's the magnetic attraction that brings individuals into syria and that has indeed made the islamic state able to recruit from abroad as well. so he is ultimately not going to be part of the solution. charlie: when he uses barrel bombs against his own people. l.f.o. and other places. davi

just how wealthy is the islamic state group? >> i don't think we can say.a lot of the assertions made about how much money it has are really just kind of spin bowling it. that being said, it has a lot of resources, obviously. if you were to rank it among the is comparablyit among the world's poorest. thatming to the sale of crude and refined oil, who is actually buying it? >> a lot of it is just going on to the black market. there is a thriving black market for oil in the area, for a variety of reasons. a lot of times the end buyers do not know it is the islamic state they're getting it from. one thing the coalition has started doing which it was not before is bombing the islamic state tankers, the trucks taking the oil out to market, which is something that will serve have an economic impact on the organization. are the other sources of money for this organization? >> it's believed the biggest source of revenue is taxed evasion or extortion of their own population. they are known to make money from the antiquities market, taking antiquities they were able

airstrikes on islamic state targets in syria. he says the u.k. is already at its highest terror threat from jihadist. the french president continues his push for a joint force against the islamic state group after talks with leaders of germany and italy. he sets his sights on a key mating and moscow. its --set to employ after turkey downs one of its planes in disputed circumstances. also coming up this hour, one of brazil's richest men and a senator have been arrested over the corruption scandal at the oil company petrobras. happy thanksgiving to our american viewers. introducingyou -- you to the brand-new totus. this is live from paris. we start in the united kingdom, where the prime minister has been presenting its arguments for why britain should join the international coalition and carry out airstrikes against the islamic state in syria. let's hear what the prime minister had to say. >> action now is that the success in iraq and squeezing the so-called caliphate is put at risk by our failure to act in syria. seriously hamper our efforts if we

at our enemy in syria is the islamic state group. so it is not a question of continuing as before but of destroying the organization. francois hollande will now meet with president barack obama. the u.s. has already agreed to share more intelligence with france to aid targeting strikes in syria and iraq. russia's airstrikes on jihadist-held areas have thus part in -- have thus far been an independent operation. they are calling for a united front. >> today we need more strikes, and we will do that. more support for all those who fight against the islamic state group. we, france, will provide that, but we need a coming together of all those who can really fight against this army of terrorists in the form of a large and unique coalition. claire: france has led strikes on iraq for over a year now, targeting syria in september. following monday's massive bombing raid on the islamic state group's self-proclaimed capital of raqqa, different military is sending an aircraft carrier to the mediterranean to triple the airpower in the region. c

these to our allies, these countries are trying to get together to five islamic state. sage is the united days hoping to send to some allies who like the on the sidelines and not on behalf of the united states would like? >> they look to show leadership and cohesiveness. turkey and russia are dealing with their own diplomatic endeavor as that is unfolding. we look for president obama to try to clearly articulate the united states strategy on leadership in battling the islamic state terrorist. mark: thank you. again, as we had to break, at the white house a live shot of the east wing -- in the east room, the president of the .nited states and france the number one topic will be islam state and the fight against terrorists. stay with us. we will be right back. ♪ mark: welcome back to bloomberg world headquarters in new york. alive press conference set to get underway in moments from the east room of the white house. president obama and french president francois hollande are meeting on the heels of the terror attacks and paris, taking place 11 days ago. a shot ofoking at vi

the islamic state group claimed responsibility for the bombing. local people say they will not be intimidated. >> may god never forgive the people responsible for this explosion. whatever terrorists do, they make us feel stronger. we are not afraid. at least 200 people were killed by the explosion. the jihadist group had carried out attacks against hezbollah and shiite civilian areas last year. the iranian-backed under group has provided support to syrian president bashar al-assad. despite political fragmentation and instability in the lebanese government, these attacks were condemned by politicians of all stripes. this explosion is proof that those who conducted the attack are morally bankrupt take a look at the scene and what we can see as the strength of beirut's citizens. those who live in the suburbs are people who support the resistance. ,eporter: the blasts in beirut as the islamic state group is losing ground in syria and iraq as a result of strikes from the coalition and regime forces. some say the jihadist group is trying to assert its p

most of the islamic state is sunni. >> that's exactly right, yep. and again, it has to have the language, the dialect, the knowledge of the religion. >religion, and this is challenging. >> rose: how much support was i.s.i.s. have in the other sunni states -- saudi arabia, the emirates -- >> there is no official support for them. the governments in those countries have fought against al quaida, they've done everything take and i can assure you, when i was the director of the c.i.a., if we took something to one of those countries that was hard and fast, that they would deal with that. in fact, we were all very, very closely linked to -- >> rose: whenever you would present the king of saudi arabia with evidence of something that you had hard and fast facts, they'd respond to it? >> yes, and, again, there is a very close partnership in each of these countries between u.s. law enforcement, u.s. intelligence community and the host nation governments, and that's because they were battling these individuals. let's remember that when he was the deputy minist

reporter: he is intensifying the fight against islamic state in syria, which he described as the largest factory of terrorists the world has known. he wants tighter security and france with an extension of the state of emergency. rounding up, the president said his aim was clear. president hollande: terrorism will not destroy our republic. the republic will destroy terrorism. long live our republic. long live france. [applause] reporter: his words were greeting with that -- greeted with a standing ovation and then the national anthem sung out in unity. ♪ brent: a moving date in the french parliament. we want to talk about the words set by the french resident today, what they mean tonight and what they will mean for france and the rest of the world moving forward. i've joined in the studio by our berlin correspondent of radio france internationale. it's good to have you here with us tonight. and our correspondent is standing by live in paris. good evening. what has been the reaction to this speech on the streets of paris? are they convinced he is doing the right thing? reporter: let me fi

>> the islamic state has a two-word slogan-- "enduring and expanding." both of those have to do with the control of territory and survival. they have staked everything on their ability to build a state and maintain the caliphate. the ideological fight in this war is an actual fight. it is not going to be a war of words. isis is not trying to win over broad muslim appeal to its cause. you don't burn a sunni pilot if you want to win over the masses. they're going for a very narrow segment of the society, and it's their political success that has attracted the recruits. >> rose: that segment of society, i assume you mean sign muslims. plays a predominant life in the middle east. >> right. >> rose: plays a predominant role. >> that's right. but they're going for a very small sliver of it that would be excited by their political project but also their extreme form of violence. >> rose: but there's no limit to their ambition. >> no. they want to reconstitute the early islamic empire which covered all the muslim majority countries in the world, and then going up

will: the islamic state has a two word slogan. enduring and expanding. of those have to do with the control of territory and survival. they have state everything on their ability to build a state and maintain the caliphate. the ideological fight is an actual fight. it's not going to be a war of words. isis is not trying to win over broad muslim appeal to its cause. you do not burn a sunni pilot. they are going for a narrow segment of society and their political success has attracted that -- charlie: i assume that segment of society, you mean sunni muslims? it plays a predominant role in the middle east. will: that's right. but they are going for a very small sliver that would be excited by their political project, but also their extreme form of violence. charlie: but there's no limit to their ambition? will: no, they want to reconstitute the early islamic empire which cover the muslim majority countries of the world and going up to spain and elsewhere and eventually they want to conquer the world, so it's limitless in their minds. charlie: i hear you say

kurdish forces say they have dealt islamic state a major low. peshmerga fighters and northern iraq raise the flag over sinjar. they say they have beaten jihadist militants and retake in a strategic town after a two-day assault. we will manage it, german chancellor angela merkel takes to nationwide television staunchly defending her increasingly unpopular migration policy, saying quote, i'm fighting for my vision. it german police find the remains of eight dead babies at a house in bavaria. they're looking for the former occupant, thought to be the baby's mother. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] anchor: welcome to dw. after two days of fighting islamic state militants, kurdish peshmerga forces say they have retaken the key town of sinjar. the president of iraqi kurdistan says the next step is mosul. reporter: these pictures from kurdish television leave little doubt that kurdish fighters are in control of sinjar, though there may still be pocke

comes as france and russia join forces to launch a punishing new wave of airstrikes against the islamic state. fallout from friday's attacks also spreading to neighboring countries, germany, belgium cancelling international soccer matches because of bomb threats but britain and france press on, calmly. defying the islamic statement we'll have a report on the latest developments, and here at home, a growing list of governors refuse to allow syrian refugees into their states. the rising resistance to president obama's insistence on bringing tens of thousands of refugees to america has forced the white house to hold a conference call tonight with the governors and no matter the outcome, it is already clear, president obama has again overstepped himself. >> all of our agencies will make every effort to vet every refugee coming into this country, from the databases to the interviews that those individuals are subject to, to the biometrics screening as well. certainly there are challenges to that process because of the situation in syria. lou: just exactly what does every effort mean? can the gover

and the excuses for failure to degrade and destroy the islamic state.he government watchdog is now expanding its investigation into allegations the obama warehouse has distorted intelligence assessments with a campaign against the islamic state and the new poll shows a record high of americans 66% don't believe he has a clear idea how to deal with terrorist now ascended like a community organizer mr. obama tried to blame the media for the islamic state the same charges made against republicans over the weekend >> comedienne needs to help. >> how we report on this. and not empowered in any way these terrorist organizations or to elevate them in ways that make it easier for them to recruit or make them stronger. they are a bunch of killers with good social media. lou: and there you have it we will take it up with k.t. mcfarland and dr. volleyed fare is. for the second time in one week groups and syrians have turned up in mexico at a border crossing seeking asylum at honduras trying to get into the united states we don't know their intentions but more can

the islamic state, the threat to attack washington today making the question of how to stop the islamic state all the more urgent. first, brian williams with the latest developments in the investigation. brian? >> lawrence, thank you. and good evening. it is a cold and rainy night in paris tonight. we're still within the 72-hour envelope after the terrorist attacks that have left 129 people dead, hundreds more injured. the suspected terrorists who escaped the attacks alive is still at large. the international manhunt is on now for this 26-year-old belgian. it accolade today with intense police raids around brussels in a neighborhood known as molenbeek. the family spoke to reporters today. >>> authorities identified this man, a belgian national to the molenbeek area. known for his extremist connections and the mastermind of the paris terrorist attacks. the french interior minister said police had arrested 23 people in 168 separate raids in cities across that country starting early today. they are warning this is just the beginning. the islamic state released a chilling propaganda video t

the nightmare for me is a radical islamic state like iran, a nation state, they think has a religious doctrine different but really the same. when the ayatollah says he wants to kill -- death to israel, he literally means it. he is a religious man driven by a form of islam that would require him to destroy the state of israel and come after us. the sooner we understand that, the better we'll be. you've got an iran problem on the shia side, but the average iranian is not a radical islamist. the ayatollah in theocracy is dangerous and lethal. then you have the sunni version. there is an opportunity to push back against these guys, and they're not ten feet tall, lou. lou: they're all of that tonight in paris, unfortunately, and i want to update folks as to where we are right now. at least six separate attacks. two of them suicide bombers at the stade de france coliseum where francois hollande, the president of france, and former president jacques chirac was with them, both taken away safe and also at least 15 people shot in another site, a restaurant. terrorists opening fire in a shoppin

anchor: and there are questions about what to do regarding the islamic state. >> a lot of bustling activity. france has put its resolution in blue. within 24 hours, it could be voted on. that resolution calls for states to be able to use all necessary measures to combat the islamic state and to coordinate their efforts. various parties are already bombing the islamic state in syria. the aim of this resolution is to further coordinate the efforts from those members of the security council. that could be put to the vote as early as friday afternoon. at the moment, we are expecting it to be tuesday. it may be moved forward, because there is a sense of urgency, of course, following the attacks in paris. there is also a russian resolution, but it doesn't seem that one is making much headway. it's very similar to the resolution that was presented during the un's general assembly, and it calls for a much broader coalition to fight terrorism. western powers have utter -- have a problem with many aspects of that text. it implies that assad should be part of the battle against i slamic state, and wes

he was questioned closely about his claims that the islamic state was to university team that the islamicate had beent contained. >> this is an organization that you once described as a junior varsity team that evolved in a force thatinto a f is now occupa territory in iraq and syria and they are now able to use that il safe haven to launch his attacks another parts of the world. how is that not underestimating capabilities and how is that contained. and i think a lot of americans have the frustration that they see the united states has theco greatest military in the world. they have the backing of nearly every other country in the world when it comes to taking them ono sotherount i guess the question. can't we take out these.eee [inaudible] >> ip just spent the last three questions answering that very question. so i don't know what more you want me to add. >> the president went on to reject calls for dramatic changes in his strategy to fight the islamic state as well.prsidn the president said that ground troops would be a mistake and he mi defended his approach as one that is going to wo

their diesel fuel from islamic state inside syria.nless you get in and start retaking territory from which revenue is impossible to stop. think about it like drugs in the u.s. or europe. why haven't we wiped out the drug problem in america? we control the territory. it is virtually impossible. anytime you have a listen --inesses -- businesses and illicit businesses and billions of people -- mark: i recommend our viewers get on that website and have a look at bloomberg businessweek and by the magazine as well. a really insightful article. you can read the full story in this week's bloomberg businessweek. let's get back to the u.s. stock market. yesterday's exuberance has somewhat dissipated. rally we had the biggest in a month and now we are fluctuating here. lowerf the indexes are with the exception of the nasdaq. i want to bring in abigail doolittle who has more. abigail: stocks are mainly flat here at the nasdaq. one of the big stories is the much-anticipated match group ipo . it sure is now trading well above $13 and much higher th

also coming up, friends asking at european allies to help fight islamic state. russia plans to boost its military coordination of paris in syria. also on the show egypt's that has no evidence yet that a bomb brought down a passenger jet in the sinai last month. this after russia said it was aware of terrorists. >> review have you with this. we begin the developing news. german police say they have made two more arrests with connection to the attacks. that follows three earlier arrests. in a process backs in the investigation come from a border town, and some are believed to have fled and are hiding in the aftermath. we just got these pictures from the town where there has been this ongoing police operation for much of the day. police raided multiple sites. this was a scene in a residential street. this is spot where they arrested two women and a man this morning: good tipoff from local residents. let's go now to melinda crane who is following this story for us. what can you tell us about this operation? >> it is an ongoing police operation using swat teams and s

somethingt to do about the islamic state, who can you count on in the region? that's an open question. anna: what is the conclusion you've come to about the islamic state's capabilities after what we saw in paris? what has changed in that respect? andrew: what has changed is pretty obvious. if you step back a little bit, we had the bombings in ankara. we had the bombing over sinai. we had the bombing in beirut, and now paris, and they have all been attributed to the islamic state or claimed by the islamic state, so obviously, the group's capabilities have grown. at the same time, it suffered serious setbacks in syria and the middle east with the loss of sinjar this week where they found mass graves of yazidis. the group has gone from establishing its own caliphate, as it were, in syria and iraq, to being on the back foot, suffering losses. ande this is lashing out, some people are saying it's a sign of weakness. it could be a bit of both. anna: what is next for the war in syria? to the talks in vienna give you hope about diplomacy, or do you see what the french

and the holdouts will be the islamic state, and probably the front. why? because ultimately, as you do gather momentum, you know that the two groups that will not be invited to the table are the islamic state and al news are a, and we can expect them to resist. >> good to have you on the program. pj, good to have you and still on the program, track being the suspects, how the investigators are able to trace the leads from the paris attacks and launch a successful raid. and plus, racial tensions at another pledge campus and another hunger strike. >> so after the massive military strike by the police, the tip that cleared that abdelhamid was holed up outside of paris, and until then, he was believed to be in syria, that led to a gunfight that led to 5,000 rounding fired. and at least two were killed. eight more taken into custody, and the authorities have yet to identify the dead. a raid took place in the north of paris. and adam has a play-by-play of what went down. >> a long day here in sandania, saintdenis, a northern suburb of paris, and they were lookin

what is different, and what does this nato need to do to assist in containing the islamic state? as you said, after , nato stood up and stood with the united states. the first time article five, but attack on one is an attack on all, in the history of the alliance. i believe it will happen again. 's that point i think nato gloves come off and you will see a directed nato campaign against the islamic state. was war declared on a nation that could allow nato to act? is a: i think that distinction without a real difference. the islamic state styles itself as a nation. it certainly acts as one, and it ought to be attacked in response to what has happened in paris. the syrian regime has avoided these large-scale fights with i.s. because they want to give the international community a choice, either me or the terrorists. lost?shar al-assad james: not at all. there are two different things happening in -- one is a hard military campaign that has to go after it islamic state. on the bashar al-assad side, we will have to have a political, diplomatic settlement. the way to think about the b

islamic state militants has claimed responsibility.n actor, buts tonight we sit down with ethan hawke to discuss his most recent work. ♪ welcome to our viewers on public television in america and also around the globe. by now a major census is underway to take a town in iraq from islamic state militants. kurdish iraqi troops are taking the lead on the ground with support from u.s. and british air power. the town in northern iraq was taken by islamic state last year . it is both strategic and symbolic in value. sent this report from the front line. reporter: the offensive begun at first light. kurdish forces on the mountain overlooking opened up with sustained rocket barrages of two -- two i.s. positions below. chats from the american-led coalition struck the militants in and around the town, causing fires which burned through the day. of defense in london announced that british planes bombed a nearby i.s.-held village and carried out reconnaissance fights in the run-up to this operation. on the battlefront immediately around the town,

they're trying to rally international support for a military campaign against islamic state. greed that isis must be destroyed. >> we're here today that the united states of france stand united in total solidarity to deliver justice to these terrorists and those who sent them to defend our nations. >> and that spirit with heavy and strong hearts i welcome you here today. this barbaric terrorist group pose a serious threat to all of us. it cannot be tolerated and it must be destroyed and we must do it together. this is the unity and purpose that brings us here today. it's been noted that the terrorist did not direct their attacks against the french government or military, rather they focused their violence on the very spirit of france. my extension on all liberal democracies. this was an attack on our free and open societies where people come together to celebrate, compete, and targeting venues where people come together from around the world citizens of nearly 20 countries, including america. this is an attack on the very idea that people of different races, religions and back

the de facto capital of the islamic state in syria. it is reported that they anticipated strikes would intensify and has since moved some of its bases to areas under its control. one such area is the stronghold in iraq. sarah: charles de gaulle has sent off to join those military operations. the defense ministry says it will look at the power against the islamic state. they will travel by land and have no known links to the paris attackers. this comes as republican lawmakers have been called for tighter controls on syrians seeking asylum. paul ryan said the first priority should be to protect the american people. this puts them at odds with president barack obama who has called for thousands to be given refuge. for more, we can head over to washington where we are standing by for the latest development. five syrians detained on the way to the u.s.. tell us more and bring us up-to-date. >> the authorities have detained five syrians trying to reach the u.s. that have apparently used stolen greek passports and makes the whole story very i

yet the islam state remains entrenched in its strong hold. this was the first city to fall in january 2014. country's second largest city collapsed. islamic state terrorist quickly advanced toward the iraqi capitol attempting to encircle baghdad infiltrating towns and villages on the out skirts. with the iraqi army largely absent from the the fight it was the shiite my till lants backed by shiite's that helped push back the militants of the islamic state. one of the shiite militants that led the counter attack that led the organization. it's known here as the population mobilization forces. after months of negotiation they agreed to take us up to the front. treacherous journey we could not have made without them. for more than a year, the islamic state held this ground, but our fighters told us they fought hard to win it back. now, through desolate landscape, were taking us toward their front line just outside boluga. a islamic state base for almost two years. >> we're going up to part of the front line that's closest, we're told that this po

>> this is the islamic state. so i think we have to see the world as it is, and not how we would like it to be. so that i think that in in fact, there is a means that we are going to go around and come back. with bashar troops against the islamic state, but that leads not to impede what the -- let's say what the government is doing against a terp errorist. you are speaking of him as a dictator. i am not going to deny that he is a very great democratic leader in this world. >> he is a man, though, most analysts agree have killed thousands of his own people in aerial box sometimes. thousands of his own people. >> well, unfortunately, yes, unfortunately, but it is also a war of by proxies have armed so caliber sur gent which is are not, and have been given arms to the it lambic state as well as to al quaida. and those people are also killing as you know civilians. what i want to say, is that today france has been hitten by the islamic state and not be bashar. and this is what they have seen as well. we are facing the

that's been written by the islamic state group itself. written treaties about the role of women in the islamic state that's been published and translated and that's primarily what they do. they get married almost as soon as they're there in most cases according to researchers that study this stuff, and they're homemakers, they're provided for in an interesting way. they basically receive a weekly stipend. they have food. if they're married, they get a home. they try to say a sort of normalcy of life. there is a social media message. there is a picture of a boundary candy bar you can find in almost any western convenience store on a pile of writing and words to the effect of i'm doing some work and enjoying some candy, just as you might be doing right now at your house in the west. another thing they talk about on social media and you see this in many studies is a culture of widowhood where the men they marry go off to fight and die and they glorify this idea of being widows. one tweet said i never thought i would be a widow at 18. we plot

we've got a president who promises to degrade and destroy the islamic state, and i don't hear the congress of the united states representing the people, as you do, say what in the world is wrong with an administration that doesn't carry through on its threats, and its promises to the american people to protect its citizens? and to the degree that we can, why is it that we can be conducting a global war on terror now for 14 years, we can be told variously by presidents that we were an immense danger. we have turned over our airports and transportation safety security administration, added 15, 20 minutes, taking off our shoes to board an airplane. our ports remain wide-open, borders remain wide-open, and the american people are considered to be so stupid as to not even deserve an answer as to why. >> well, all of what you say is true. we are not doing -- to do the basic come protect the borders. what does that mean? we should no who comes into the united states. that is not happening. we all heard about tsa and how they are inadequate, but it is the responsibility of congress to push this is

liberty mutual insurance. >> what does the islamic state really want.it want a war on the streets of paris, or does it want a war with well equipped soldiers in on the battlefields of syria and iraq? the author of the article "the war isis wants." a fellow at artist international and a member of the terrorism and organized research group at university college london. the first paragraph of your piece, you write francois hollande vows to be merciless in the fight for the barbarian of the islamic state is unfortunately precisely what isis intended. why would they intend that. >> well, their manifesto means the management of savagery or chaos. so they're looking for chaos everywhere they can find it in the world. where there isn't chaos, their idea is to create it so they can draw a wedge between nonmuslims and muslims to destroy what they call the gray zone where most people are located and produce a polarized world where muslims will have no choice because they're being persecuted all over the world, to join them. >> now, do they believe that if they do

the islamic state said it carried out that attack.will turn onto to other stories making headlines around the world. a military court in thailand has charged two men believed to have carried out a deadly bombing on the shrine in bangkok in august. 20 people were killed in the attack and more than 120 injured . officials say that there was no political or religious motive behind the bombings. migrants stuck in macedonia have sown their lips together in a hunger strike, this against the country's decision to stop moving further into europe. macedonia and other nations on the so-called balkans route announced order controls next week, saying only refugees from conflict zones are allowed to cross their territories. among the migrants trying to reach western europe are hundreds of thousands of children and as winter sets in the face the danger of deadly weather. at the same time, in european countries, they are overwhelmed by the flow and closing borders. the humanitarian agencies say that this needs urgent attention and is calling for mor

and seens from inside islamic state health territoryiy that 11 this year. these are photographs that were confirmed ton the same scene in the town square, 12slamic state fighters were preparing to execute this man. >> there are small childre brought into the very front o the crowd and we sat there helplessly, calls are coming for strike, they're going to assassinate this person in front of these children. we can't because they're children and we had to watat that. >> moments later, the execution took place and the victim lay dead. shot by this man, once in the head and once more in the body. the e erican drone stayed with the 12 terrorists. >> we followed them as they got into three vehicles and drove out of town. then they made a mistake because they always made mistatas and all l went into the building on the side of the river and none of those 12 came out. >> gurston told us tht their strike that destroyed that building. it's moree than 5,000 strikes to support the iraqi army and kurdish forces on the ground over the past year. yet the islamic state remai

it also provides the opportunity for the groups like the islamic state to take advantage of the chaos order to try and fulfill prophecy. >> reporter: the invasions of the united states will be per received as the conflict, particularly in syria? >> particularly sunni muslims, apocalyptic thinking became more popular after 2003 when the u.s. invaded iraq. >> reporter: you translated original documents from the qur'an and the prophet muhammad's prophecies. >> these comes from statements attributed to muhammad which many conservative muslims regard as scripture second only to the qur'an. so early islamic scripture is filled with these kind of prophecies. >> reporter: are they at the heart of it? >> they are and for many muslims are important particularly when there is political upheaval in the countries in which they live. >> reporter: what about the leader of the islamic state, the caliph he's proclaimed himself, abu bakr al-baghdadi? do you get a sense he really believes this or just a ticket to power? >> he is a religious scholar by training. from his early days his nickname was "the