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isobel, i just want to talk about the whole fix on cyber, space and so on, isobel, because we have seendoes this paper give the uk and others enough protection? do you think there is enough focus from democratic nations on protecting ourselves on that front? it does certainly talk about investment and commitment britain is no slouch when it comes to cyber, but it does need investment. historically, we have underinvestment in the whole science and technology area. we are very good at inventing and very bad at supporting inventions to market, and therefore retaining the value of them. there are quite structural issues for britain to have the kind of domestic resilience that it's going to need to cope with being adrift as a small, medium—sized power in a very contentious world. we are going to need a lot of attention to domestic issues. and it is not straightforward to say that we can just put material interests ahead of human rights when it comes to china, because we also proclaim our close friendship with the us, which is involved in a systemic confrontation. when it comes to choosing, a

with me are isobel hilton, founder of china dialogue, jeffrey koffman, a us—canadian journalist and formerly forjoining me today. borisjohnson launched a new foreign policy direction, global britain — the integrated review this week. it was driven by professorjohn bew, a historian known across the political landscape here and author of a much—read

with me are isobel hilton, founder of china dialogue, jeffrey koffman, a us—canadian journalist and formerly