about the israel's risks.uch of that debate is focused on iran's retaliatory capacity and how much damage it can cause both to israel and the u.s. and maybe to oil. that's very important obviously. but there's something really bigger for the israelis. because the choice is really between a situation where israel is not at war with iran ands with prospect of iran developing nuclear weapons versus israel is at war with iran for the first time in its history with bilateral division between the two over some important issues, and iran in the end still having nuclear weapons. that's really the choice. and that's why i'm surprised that it doesn't come out that way because people are more focused on the retaliation capacity in the short term of iran. >> thank you so much, shivly tahami and renon bergman. and now our veteran correspondent who has been in new york but here on a new location right now. martin, you've seen so many changes, dramatic changes over the decades. at the same time we see stalemate on almost eve

we heard ahmadinejad threaten israel but he never did say white israel off the map. he said something about this, he said that the zionism will disappear from the faces of history. israel persistently as well as of bobby said that there was -- say inflammatory things about iran. can you talk about this fiery language that goes back and forth? guest: let me start with the report from the iaea. there was solid information suggesting that iran did carry out research into how to build a nuclear weapon, how to make it into a warhead. they have not billed or tested a weapon as far as we know. they did do research. a structured program appears to have been dismantled because the iranian program had been discovered. since then, there has been reports that continued some of this research. those are less well sourced than the earlier reports of weapons research that the iranians had conducted. there are reasons to be concerned. i'm not one of these who dismisses everything, this is propaganda. we do need to worry about this. in terms of the rhetoric, this is a pattern that we

-israel relationship.hey need to have a meat ax taken to them so they know which direction we need to go in. [applause] yes, ma'am. ? >> you should tell the audience the sign you have above your kitchen sink. >> my wife is here. i was trying to introduce our. wherever she is, say hi. karen and i have been to israel. this was many years ago, back in the 1990's. we brought back one of those tiles that says prey for the peace in jerusalem. we have that in our kitchen -- pray for the peace in jerusalem. we have that in our kitchen and we pray for that every day. it is the epicenter of every religion in the world. unless we have that situation salt, world peace is impossible. >> thank you. the question i have -- the gulf of mexico is called our soft underbelly. i read a couple of weeks ago that the drug cartels might start using submarines. when prime minister ariel sharon rowland built a fence, terrorism was reduced by 96%. we need to secure our borders and get rid of those tunnels. hezbollah has a presence in

we have been to israel. one of the things we did, this was back in the 1990's, we bought one of those tiles that says pray for the peace of jerusalem. we have that on our kitchen, right above our sink. we pray for that every day. [applause] it is the epicenter of the world. it is where all the major faiths come together. unless we have the assault, -- that solved, world peace is impossible. >> the gulf of mexico, we could call it our soft underbelly. i read a couple weeks ago that the drug cartels might start using submarines. when the prime minister built a fence, terrorism reduced by 96%. we need to secure our borders, get rid of those tunnels. hezbollah has a presence in mexico. what your plans for our border? >> thank you very much. i was asked the question, what is the threat we have not talked about? we talked about immigration. i have been clear about that. i have been committed over the course of my career to building that fence, to securing our borders. not just because of the economic impact, but b

the other thing is if you look at israel and relations with israel, majority of jewish voters thoughtwas doing well on that in 2009. now a majority of jewish voters don't think so. a bad news for the republicans, though, most of those voters even though they could be swing states, peeled off 10% to tip the swing votes, swing states the problem is most of those voters support independents, not republicans. uphill battle for republican candidates to get those vote voters. they are up for a grabs and way to go. >> shannon: this is a friendly audience. they want to hear in the candidates. they had great applause lines when it came to appealing for the audience. texas governor rick perry in the responses i saw watching the speeches when he went after defense secretary leon panetta and his recent statements and suggestions toward israel. >> a statement made over the weekend, approved every word of it by the white house. a very strong attack on israel. blaming essentially for absence of peace process. he said that israel has to "get itself to the damn table." meaning, negotiating table. this

israel is our friend they are they have never been. you know a bad friend to us they've never been an enemy to us so you know we want to reciprocate and you know not an enemy but i think that some people would say that you know who has been exactly been the most respectful person when it came to president obama in the relationship that the two had there either i would you know but that once again goes back to obama you know and not know america you know america as a whole supports israel and and that's why obama's been at fault because he hasn't been leading us down that road that has been carved out for a long time so he's been leading them down that road like you said it is never ever going to. get i do think but i want to get we're opinion on this fact that ron paul wasn't invited because he's just not mainstream it up with what the g.o.p. thinks he's a little too extreme for them i mean let's face it what would ron paul this is so bad to have another opinion out there is it so bad to have somebody thought of kind of going something

moving going to very wrong about the problem in israel is that. it's not just an opinion. shift to the right among the israeli public because you have an explanation that up to now the israeli public opinion till now the israeli public benefit in from occupation is benefiting from the apartheid system is benefiting from confiscating. our water ninety percent of our water it is called for is created by them with the passage of . the creation of every new settlement block israel is killing the very last opportunity of two state solution which means they will have to deal with one final left solution and that is one state solution which means they can never dream of something called the jewish state which means they have to respect a situation where there might not be even a majority and one democratic state that is the price that israel is paying if they continue this path while israel suffer if economic problems continue to mount in the united states i believe i believe so because united states is becoming weaker with the passage of. unfortunately it makes some forces in th

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panetta telling israel it's time to get back to the table.ly henneberg live from washington with more. >> reporter: kelly, specifically, senator panetta urged israel to mend fraying ties with egypt and jordan and press forward with discussions with palestinians, talks the secretary says have essentially been, quote, on hold. >> with full confidence that the united states is willing and capable of ensuring that israel can safeguard its security, as it takes the risk needed to pursue peace, now is the time for israel to take bold action and to move towards a negotiated two state solution. >> reporter: palestinians say they're ready to resume talks if israel stops building settlements in the west bank as they want as part of a homeland. a spokesman says, quote, there's a contradiction between israel's willingness to negotiate between territories and assistance in determining the future of the territories through illegal settlement activity. but israel, which has already given up the gaza strip and other parts of its country says the palestinians

we're also hearing very offensive rhetoric coming from israel do you think israel has its own plan which doesn't exactly include any kind of dialogue with the palestinians. this is not my view it's crystal clear the current government of israel has no serious intentional about this serious dialogue with the palestinians maybe some photo opportunities but nothing more than peace and the p.a. the palestinian authority had just launched another proposal for israel to get back to the negotiation table they even gave up the conditional freezing the settlements which is a minimal. condition and they suggest the just symbolic release of one hundred palestinian prisoners to get back to the go shake table it would be easier to say no. if we were to see and i know this is of course is all still very much speculation some kind of full scale attack do you think it would be possible that we would see reaction from the international community in terms of a possible u.n. impose a no fly zone what and how will the world react to an attack. you must differentiate here between the public opinions in the w

he said this not on camera about israel. "i try not to pat myself too much on the back, but this administration has done more in terms of the security of the state of israel than any previous administration. that is not just our opinion. that is the opinion of the israeli government." we're back with the panel. charles is that the opinion of the israeli government? >> it is not. he knows it. if not, he's delusional. this is chutzpah. he has done more to delegitimize israel's position in the world than any other president and he did it by arriving on the scene. imposing and demanding a freeze on settlement, including the building of the jewish homes in jerusalem of all places. something that had never been precondition in 17 years. of negotiations. imposing the palestinians had to insist on it as well. once the president and that destroyed the negotiations. it made israel the fall guy for an error. that imposed the beginning of the term. there were no negotiations. the most important issue is security. this president did not

and israel maintain the latest. report provides very strong evidence that iran is seeking nuclear weapon. here's the question do you think iran has a nuclear weapon. no i think in nobody really thinks they have a nuclear weapon and i think one must read that report rather carefully what they say is that they see some evidence that could it could be explained if they were dealing with a weapon or a mere weapon and that there seems on the other evidence that is very hard to explain unless they were working towards a weapon but they have not said that they established that iraq or actually intends to do it they might stop short of their weapons well judging from your experience how should this intelligence be treated and how far can actually i.a.e.a. go in checking the credibility of such intelligence. well they do it or not the every city here in the iran and it's a big country and then it places can be hidden so i think there are limits to what they can find out but that doesn't really affect what the outside world s

and we hear who works in israel and in the united states saying that they should bomb iran others say that they are all the nuclear installations are and that it is meaningless. to the presidential candidates that he thinks for a regime change but i don't think he explained whether he would like the a regime change to be the half. or the iraq. but also the service is very similar similar to what happened in iraq. could we be seeing the new iraqi scenario unfolding here as far as iran goes well there are some similarities in the. escalation of the language and the threats. that we had in the case of iraq and now having case of iran on the other hand we must remember that in case of iraq they talked about. weapons that in fact did not exists. today they are talking about iranian intentions of may or may or may not exist. but the difference is that iran certainly has a lot of nuclear installations iraq did not have that but in your own opinion is iran of any imminent threat to any nation at this point i don't think so really. the it is true that you are merely dad has come out in the ver

palestinians face a new year nightmare israel warns of another deadly onslaught against war. in the region with remuda air strikes. and nuclear submarines a blazer dockyard in northern russia the scaffolding surrounding caught fire during repair work. iran says it's ready to strike ships sailing too close to its maneuvers knew all route following its threats to block passage west insists on up sanctions also. people became very draconian jaring this time is very sober oppressive and they would have supported the government to bring in the army to sort the problem out. when britain boiled over our countdown of the twenty lead and continues with more eyewitness testimony from our reporters but remember the summer the british people said enough is enough. hello eight pm thursday night here in moscow my name is kevin o. into night top story from r.t. israeli warplanes have launched two air strikes on what the army called terrorist sites in central and northern gaza killing at least one person and injuring ten others the israeli military earlier confirmed it is preparing for a new

palestinians face a new year nightmare israel warns of another deadly onslaught against warpath and gaza hitting the region with huge air raids we've got a report coming up. iran says it's ready to attack ships sailing too close to its maneuvers near a vital oil route following its threats to block passage of the west insists on tough sanctions. people became very draconian jaring this time it's very silty for press and they would have supported the government to bring in the army to see the problem out when britain boiled over. the twenty twelve continues with more eyewitness testimony from our reporters as we remember the summer that the british people said enough is enough. hello one i am here in moscow this is r.t. live with me kevin zero in and first israeli warplanes have launched two air strikes on what the army called terrorist sites in central and northern gaza killing at least one person and injuring ten others the israeli military earlier confirmed it's preparing for a new large scale offensive against the palestinian territory which hasn't recovered from the assault three yea

on the israel gaza border. demonstrations have been held in cities worldwide calling for the release of a man who until a few days ago was america's most high profile death row prisoner. was incarcerated thirty years ago for killing a white police officer in philadelphia a crime he still denies earlier this week a court reduce the sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole his supporters claim the former black panther militant is an innocent political prisoner david lindorff an investigative reporter thinks the u.s. justice system is unfair to the poor. first of all he clearly had a trial that was a sham there were this documented clear evidence that a lot of the prosecution witnesses were perjuring themselves and the other thing is that he has almost no way to get out of jail now short of a new witness coming forward because of the way our system blocks appeals by by people who are in these situations well it really highlights the fact that you know first of all most of the people on death ro

and iran certainly should be nervous that israel is night bomb them just as israel did iraq in the 1980's and syria in two thousand and seven what is the likelihood actually that israel may be at this point now that it has isolated itself from turkey also from egypt it has disappointed sarkozy it has disappointed obama very strong rhetoric going on back and forth between iran and israel what is it likely that it has become more dangerous and maybe it will actually show for the first time that if the us has it does have nuclear arsenal and use it probably too long iran well it's hard to judge i mean some people think that this kind of language and threats by their use individuals in in israel and also by a hoax in the united states that it was the rain from their present course however i am somewhat doubtful that one can scare a country away from go in for nuclear weapons i think that carrots are better person aiding them that they can gain quite a lot by staying away from weapon sent from enrichment to saying there will be a point where i will be convincing israel not to use its nuclear

wiping israel off the map of the world but i think most people would think that he is really talking to the arab street he has one of the disturbing lies arab states that have supported the united states. iraq iran does not have a track record of aggression in fact it was iraq that attacked iran so i don't see an immediate threat from iran but i can understand that israelis are nervous but the u.s. and israel maintain the latest i ate a report provides very strong evidence that iran is seeking any nuclear weapon. here's the question do you think iran has a nuclear weapon. no i think in nobody really thinks they have a nuclear weapon and i think one must read that report rather carefully what they say is that they see some evidence that could be explained if they were dealing with a weapon or a mere weapon and that there seems on the other evidence that is very hard to explain unless they were working towards a weapon but they have not said that they established that iraq or actually intends to do it so they might stop short of their weapons well judging from your experience how shit

israel through the israeli ports and airports we have no direct relationship with the outside worldbefore the palestinian uprising in two thousand tens of thousands of gazans worked in israel they pass through here areas the largest border crossing between israel and gaza but as you can see now only a handful of people trickle through each day now yell out because shall we was a painter and would earn about thirty american dollars a day enough for his family to survive on but in the last seven years he can't cross the border and with no work this side his children often go to bed hungry he was one of the first to sign up when a call went out for people interested in going to libya to register i don't care if it's libya or not and ready to go to mars for the sake of getting food for my children i can't give them more than twenty cents a day to survive on can you imagine that i must says israel promised to lift the blockade on gaza as part of the recent prisoner exchange that freed the captured israeli soldier but israel says it made no such promise this is to control the control of t

by the studios face the new year night israel warns of another deadly onslaught against wall battered gaza hitting the region with new day strikes. firefighters put out a blaze on a nuclear submarine in northern russia after scaffolding surrounding it went up in flames during repairs. iran says it's ready to strike ships sailing too close to its maneuvers near a vital oil route after threads to block passage of the west insists on tough sanctions also. people became very draconian jaring this time is very still super oppressive and they would have supported it. to bring in the army to fill a proper amount of britain boiled over countdown to twenty twelve continues with more eyewitness testimony from our reporters as we remember the some of the british people said enough is enough. nine pm thursday night here in moscow welcome if you just joined us my name's kevin now in tonight's top story from r.t. israeli warplanes have launched two air strikes on what the army called terrorist sites in central and northern gaza has killed at least one person and injured ten others the israeli milit

way be a force at the same time several rockets were fired by palestinian militants onto southern israel now on wednesday evening news radio on me admitted that it was considering a possible launch scale military operation into gaza it said that this operation would be varied and different to the last operation that was carried out the three years ago and would aim at increasing israel's determines in the area khaled mashal from us his political view achieve has called on palestinians nor to target israeli civilians because of the fear of a massive israeli retaliation now back in two thousand and eight nearly one and a half thousand palestinians were killed in a three week operation that these rabies referred to as operational cost made four out of five people killed were civilians what we're hearing from the israelis now is that should they go ahead with another operation this operation will be short tech and it will be the use of more fire. powell but it's not clear that the timing is right for tel aviv to go ahead with another invasion of gaza certainly the new ten yahoo government is

on the israel gaza border. r.t. is coming to you live from moscow now let's get to some other news from around the world for you this hour time for the world update here at least three people are dead following clashes in the democratic republic of congo this after the results of the presidential elections were disputed in the capital kinshasa protesters blocked roads and threw stones at police to disperse them with tear gas tensions culminated when opposition leader. rejected the results and declared himself president right lisa been deployed throughout to bring the situation under control . like the airplane crashed into a school near the philippine capital shortly after takeoff killing at least thirteen people including two children though there were no classes being held at the time of the incident firefighters have identified two pilots among the dead according to officials the pilot declared an emergency after taking off from manila but failed to return to the airport before crashing. the stargazers across the

in terms of the creation of the state of israel generally truman recognized the state of israel in may of 1948, part of his presidential campaign. that was really opposed by george marshall, secretary of state. george marshall, eisenhower's interim. there is substantial reason to believe eisenhower agreed that marshall and people in the state department believed. henderson is a graduate of my school, southwestern college, great diplomat who believed creation -- recognition and creation of the state of israel would lead to endless turmoil in the middle east that he was not wrong. that doesn't mean you can't support that because there is a dramatic and wonderful story for the state of israel and i moved and touched by it too that mine is mixed in the flowers in that situation. i wish i could answer you better. >> did the hungarians expect the americans to come to their aid in 1956? >> significant evidence that they didn't expect that and there was great disillusionment among pro hungarian groups and refugees. hundreds of thousands of refugees left and all the united states did was make p

and all originally the idea was to get the israel to do away with this nuclear weapons but i think if this conference were to try those to do away with the israeli nuclear weapons and the uranium enrichment capability and get the other states in the middle east to come along then there might be more hopeful future you know many believe that iran actually may be willing to get to a point when it's able to produce a nuclear weapon but doesn't actually do it unless it's security established ratan to is that a likely strategy it is possible we know from the case of israel that they do not admit that they have nuclear weapons they say that they will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons in the middle east maybe one day the iranians will say that we also will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons in the middle east and maintain the situation ambiguity. but i think it would be better if all the parties came to the conclusion that they should have neither nuclear weapons nor a richmond capability i'm. being were secure. they would be alluring now that say saudi arabia and egyp

on the israel gaza border. now three twenty three pm here in moscow let's get to some other world news for you in brief with the world update here on r.t. a fresh wave of clashes between security forces and anti-government protesters has left twenty four people dead in syria fighting erupted in several major cities thousands took part in demonstrations calling for the end of president assad's regime activists claim that children were among some of those violence broke out the day after a major oil pipeline in this region was blown up still unclear who was behind that an estimated four thousand people have died in the past nine months of uprising. a japanese nuclear plant has leaked almost two tons of water containing radioactive materials in the southwestern town of. the leak was discovered by plant workers on friday morning the cause is still under investigation but officials say the water poses no safety risk the country is still trying to recover after an earthquake and tsunami rocked the fukushima power pla

and israel lived up lived up to its word launched its genocide that were against the palestinians of girls are killed so many people and i think now what is happening right now is that israel has a different government a government that is considered by so many analysts to be the most fascist government in the state in the history of the state of israel we are talking about of ecuador liberman and binyamin netanyahu who are intending actually the complete eradication and destruction of the gaza strip and so yes we are bracing ourselves for the worst times to comes but we also on the other hand need to remember that there is a new world right now we are witnessing a new era in the arab world and i think that israel is confused as in a dilemma with or to launch and you would you know side the war against the palestinians of gaza and the godless of the reaction then you are a world or just to stay and wait and test the water of the arab world without launching a massive war against gaza. we got more opinion more reports on the timeline of the guards were offensive three years ago on our