in israel r.i.m. spoke in israel. we'll bring you that speech in its entirety in just a few moments but first here are other stories making news. the suspected gunman from the colorado shootings will be in court tomorrow. prosecutors will file formal changes against james holmes. he's expected to face 12 counts of first-degree murder. holmes is accused of opening fire at an arohr real movie theater, killing more than 12 people a week ago. >>> and in syria where rebels and government forces are still fighting to gain control of alebeau, the country's main commercial scepter.eppo, the co commercial scepter. syria's tv says they suffered losses. ivan watson is watching this firsthand. earlier he told us about an army base that's surrounded by rebels. >> reporter: for the last hour i've been watching rebels attack on a syrian army base located just outside the northern limits of that city of aleppo. it started around sunset with great deal of rocket fire and mortar fire and machine gunfire, and we've basically been watchi

under israel's control. no u.s. government, no u.s. president has fully recognized jerusalem as israel's capital, nor has it moved the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. listen to this exchange that i had with mitt romney in the interview we conducted earlier in the day over at the king david hotel inerusalem. you consider jerusalem where we're sitting, the king david hotel here in jerusalem, do you consider jerusalem to be the capital of israel? >> yes, of course. a nation has a capacity to choose its own capital city, and jerusalem is israel's capital. >> reporter: if you become president of the united states, would you move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem? >> i think it's long been the policy of our country to ultimately have our embassy in the nation's capital, jerusalem. the decision to actually make the move is one, if i were president, i would want to take in consultation with the leadership of the government which exists at that time. so i would follow the same policy we have in the past

israel died as i said the west bank and in defense of war jordan as we know attacked israel from jerusalem without any provocation israel had a right to tack in egypt because they blocked them they did a blockade but beyond that in the years from one thousand nine hundred eighty seven to one thousand nine hundred three when israel was ruling the west bank of israel was. administering the west bank what was the relationship between palestinians so first of all there was hardly a checkpoint the two economies milled everything in palestinian society was growing in the one nine hundred seventy s. the fourth group fastest growing economy in the world was in the west bank and gaza israel did let me finish please all the universes eleven universities were open for palestinians by the palestinians by israel i want to say one significant thing polls were taken in one thousand nine hundred sixty one thousand nine but the most important palestinian posters here is palestinians to rate for places in the world in democracy and human rights and in those early years after the beginning of the oslo accord

whenever the security of israel america's commitment to israel must be most secure.when the decision was before [applause] decision was before him in 1948, president harry truman decided without hesitation that the united states would be the first country to recognize the state of israel. from that moment to this, we have been the most natural of runs deeper than the designs of strategy or the weighing of interests. a world by the standards of this ancient region, rose up to become the dear friend of the of israel is among the and most hopeful in our nation's history. different as our paths have qualities in one another. many one another. we both believe in democracy, in the right of every people to select their leaders and choose their nation's course. we both believe in the rule of its absence, willful men may incline to oppress the weak. are universal, granted not by government but by our creator. free has lifted people from poverty, enduring incomparable achievements and human flourishing. as someone who has spent most of his life in business, i am particularly i

welcome to israel. island of democracy in the storm of mideast chaos surrounded by the upheaval and center lines of the arab world. this jewish state is fore shaken these days by internal domestic conflict than threats. thousands calling for equal draft laws for all israelis. this is what they are talking about here in israel. before i get to this and issues like the slaughter in syria and secret war against iran's nuclear weapons a single murder mystery begins our special report. was yasser arafat the long time palestinian leader poisoned and if so who did it. >> even if you love palestine don't do this suicide bombing. >> i saw it with my eyes. >> i saw it with my eyes. now say it to the children. say it for our children. >> no occupation. no any crimes against civilians syrians and israelis. >> two years after that interview yasser arafat wasn't dead i died a physical wreck a shelf a man i knew. for years it was whispered he aids and perhaps fearing embarrassment noah top see was ever allowed. a shoc

he was born in israel. sergeant, what is a michigander doing here in israel? >> i have close ties to the united states and israel and i felt like serving the military here because there's a huge security need and i felt like i had to do my part. >> what is your role? what role do you play? >> i am an interceptor which means i am directly involved with the interception of rockets that directly threaten civilian rights. >> do you think you can protect the people there are so many aimed this way. >> so far we have been doing a great job and we are constantly improving. i feel very confident in what we are doing. >> do you ever get a sense that this is a never ending war? >> i have hope. i want to believe that eventually it will end. >> what do you say when you hear criticism of israel. >> we are not attacking or anything of that sort. we are constantly defending from rockets being shot at us. they are constantly being shot at us. i am defending innocent civilians. i feel confident in what i am doing and morally i feel c competent in what i am doing. >> they are n

any michigan cscues in israel?>> well, the israeli leadership seems to be very pleased with what's happened so far, although there were a couple of members of the opposition who -- members, leaders of the labor party who were pretty upset with mitt romney because he at the very last minute canceled his meetings with them. he sthad suspected benjamin netanyahu was behind that cancellation so they made a statement saying they were not pleased at all that mitt romney canceled the meeting. then there was a bit of a kroers over this planned dinner that romney was going to have just before he got there. he with us going to have a big dinner that was for fund-raising but it actually was going to be on a day when jews were fasting, a very important jewish holiday known as tisha b av. talking very strongly about a relationship he says has to be strong between eaisrael and the united states as well as slamming i rehab saying he backs israel whatever decisions it might make to defend itself. rob? >> sara, as we know, it's not

if israel feels that the united states is not going to help them stop iran, israel is probably going to feel compelled to attack iran's nuclear sites by itself. it has in the past in 1981 when iraq was developing a nuclear enrichment plant, israel attacked that. three years ago when syria was developing a nuclear enrichment plant, israel attacked that. it's a safe assumption that the israelis are considering an attack against iran's nuclear sites. israel can start a war with iran but we would be brought into that war. israel can't finish that war. where would we be four years from now we may have a nuclear region. and we may see an arab israeli conflict and in puck weapons are there the more likelihood the nuclear weapons being used in an area where everybody has nuclear weapons. and that means the next war -- there is always another war in the middle east for thousands of year. the next could be a nuclear war or one in which nuclear weapons are used. the third thing i think you'll see in 2016 if we don't have a change in direction is the united states' relationship with china will b

-israel relationship. members should recall that in may we passed the house version of this bill, h.r. 4133 by a near unanimous vote. we will be taking another vote today because the senate has added an important extension of military stockpile reserve authorities. i strongly support this addition and thank the senate for its contribution. mr. speaker, since its founding, israel has faced enumerable challenges to its survival, but the serious threats it faces today are unprecedented. deadly cross-border attacks have taken israeli-arab and israeli jewish lives. they penetrate gaza in the form of rocket attacks. the iron dome anti-missile system funded in part by the united states has changed the rules of the game. in fact, iron dome has been successful in intercepting a remarkable 90% of incoming rockets aimed at once defenseless population centers. there are a couple of iron dome batteries operational in israel in order to protect israel's eight million citizens. as 2165 retains language from the iron dome

israel has said time and time again the israeli leadership, both political parties, the elites in israel have said they ran as a nuclear weapons state is an extenial threat. and if the united states is not helping them stop iran they will and in short order feel it's necessary to take things in their own hands and attack iran's nuclear weapons sites. the next thing faces the united states today is the reset with russia. that hasn't worked out. president obama came in saying we're going to reset relations with russia because they've been so bad. and the russian leadership said where do you want to reset things back to, the 1990s in the russians were pleased with the way things were going in the bush era because they felt they were reclaiming their superpower status and their place in the world. so when they misfired by saying this is a reset of our relations with the russians the russians looked askance with that and for the last four years, vladimir putin has increasingly felt that he's got president obama right where he wants him. he's put him in a box and now to the point where the mee

whenever the security of israel is most in doubt, america's israel must be most secure. was before him in 1948, president harry truman decided without hesitation that the united states would be first country recognize the state of israel. natural of runs deeper than interests. of how america, a new to the the standards of this ancient reason, rose up to most hopeful in our nation's history. different as our paths have been, we see the same qualities in one another. israel an america in many reflections of one another. democracy, in the right of every people to select their leaders and choose their nation's course. we both believe in the rule of law knowing that in its arcs willful men may incline to week. we both believe that our rights university granted not by government but by our creator. free enterprise because it is the only economic system that has lifted people from poverty, and enduring middle-class and that has achievements in human flourishing. with israel's cutting edge technology and thriving economy. the is all around us. embraced economic you export techno

israel has said time and time again the israeli leadership, both political parties, elites in israel have said iran as a nuclear weapons state is an existential threat and that is how they view things. if they feel the united states is not helping them stop iran, they will and probably in short order feel it's necessary to take things into their own hands and attack iran's nuclear weapons sites. the next thing that's facing the united states today is the reset with russia. it hasn't worked out very well. president obama came in saying we're going to reset relations with russia because they have been so bad. and the russian leadership looked at president obama and said well, where do you want to reset things back to, 1990s? the 1990s, russia was on its knees. the russians were quite pleased with the way things were going in the bush era because they really felt that they were reclaiming their super power status, they were reclaiming their place in the world. so when president obama and secretary clinton sort of misfired by saying this is a reset of our relations with russia, the russi

united capitol of the state of israel. [cheers and applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, let us warmly greet, governor mitt romney. >> thank you. thank you [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much. thank you. thank you for your kind intrurksz mayor. and thank you for the warm welcome. it's a pleasure and a privilege to be in israel again and to see so many dear friends. to step foot into israel is to step foot interest a nation that began with an ancient promise made in this land, the jewish people persisted to one of the most monstrous crimes in human history. now this nation has come to take its place among the most impressive democracies on earth. israel's achievems are a wonder of the modern world. these achievements are a tribute to the resilience of the israeli people. have you managed against all odd, time and again throughout your history to persevere, to rise up and to emerge stronger. the historian, paul johnson, writing on the 50th anniversary of the creation of the jewish state, said that over the course of isra

jerusalem will be the capital of israel here's then candidate obama in israel in two thousand and eight and many others before him mitt romney's visit comes just days after he slammed president obama for his lack of loyalty to israel or the people of israel deserve better than what they receive from the leader of the free world and the course. and the chorus of accusations and threats and insults at the united nations should never again include the voice of the president of the united states many say the heart of this matter lies with two important constituencies those two constituencies are. christian fundamentalists particularly those in the republican party and i certain percentage of jewish americans those who are wealthy donors to both parties wealthy donors like to see no mogul sheldon adelson who recently made a ten million dollar donation to romney super pac restore our future the largest gift yet according to forbes magazine adelson has said his top priority is supporting and protecting israel the money also flows generously from the american israel public affairs committee or

they are anti-israel. they are able to pass all sorts of resolutions that delegitimize israel. >> the church was built over the area of jesus christ birth. some two million terrorists visited there last year. >> this would include more tourists visiting bethlehem. >> the main gauge of that is whether christians, pilgrims in the land feel safe. that is a matter whether the palestinians want to cease terror against israel. >> palestinians have a poor record in taking care of christian and jewish holy sites. experts say the unesco move sets a precedent. chris mitchell, cbn news, jerusalem. >> we would like to hear from you about this story. we invite you to post your comments at our cwn facebook page. you can find that evangelical christians marched in brazil. march organized by the reborn in christ church including music and inspirational messages. organizers say the march was the largest event in the world. growing religious sect in bra brazil. >> church leaders are aging and passing on. >> how to keep the

has a, quote, unshakeable commitment to israel's security and announced $70 million to expand israel's iron dome, short range missile defense system to shield them from hezbollah rockets. >> it is a program that has been tested and has prevented missile strikes inside of israel and it is testimony to the leadership of the folks sitting here that we're going to be able to lock in that funding to assure that program continues and that we are standing by our friends in israel when it comes to these kinds of attacks. >> president obama, who has not traveled to israel as president, said defense secretary leon panetta will be traveling to israel to discuss additional ways the u.s. can help with israeli security. rick? >> ricky: thank you. medical medical in washington. this as new reports that israel is preparing for possible military action as the syrian regime shows more signs that it may be on the verge of collapse. israel and the world raising the alarm over syria's stockpile of chemical agents and fears that terrorists could seize the deadly material and maybe tuesday against israel. so

whenever the security of israel is most in doubt, america's commitment to israel must be most secure. [applause] when the decision was before him in 1948, president harry truman decided without hesitation that the united states would be the first count tree recognize the state of israel. from that moment to this, we have been the most natural of allies. but our alliance runs deeper than the designs of strategy or the weighing of interest. the story at how america, a nation still so new to the world by the standards of this ancient region, rose up to become the dear friend of the people of israel, is among the finest and most hopeful in our nation's history. different as our paths have been, we see the same equality qualities of one another. israel and america are in many respects, reflections of one another. we both believe in democracy, in the right of every people to select their leaders, and choose their nation's course. we both believe in the rule of law, knowing that in its absence, willful men may incline to oppress the week. we both believe our rights are universal, granted not

he has not visited israel. he has made unsupportive statements statements about israel.ted b.b. netanyahu in scprieft publicly, nen then, sort of shared that with the media to further embarrass the israeli prime minister. he has been -- there is deep concerns about where he is with regard to our staunch ally, israel. he has said things like we need to return to the 67 borders that the israelis find very problematic policy. if it was one thing, it wouldn't be that much. but this is one of many things that has caused a lot of -- a lot of jewish americans and a lot of israelis to be concerned about how president obama views this relationship. >> greta: i go to karl rove dot-com to look at the math and i will continue to do so, where you lay out the states and when way they are leaning. i am curious, we talk about the republicans and democrat and it is independents. is there any way to measure right now the undecided? >> well, we do get the undecided. like today in the -- in the gallup daily trabbing poll, i think the undecideds are 9 pmpls we are likely to see 8, 9, 10, 11,

israel israel. >> the government of israel has asked to enough the capitol to jerusalem. >> just be precise. if you're president you would consult with the israeli government, and if they said please move the embassy you're going to do that. >> i'm not going to make foreign policy while i'm on foreign policy. >> cenk: you just said jerusalem--that's your policy. you said it in israel. it doesn't matter. the more important point is he is he's saying, you don't know that's israel's position? i'm amazed by this guy. how could he be smart enough to hood wimping a whole bunch of people at bain company to make a ton of money and you're running for president of the united states of america. you're the leader of your party at this point as the nominee and you don't know that it's israel's position that they want all of jerusalem as their capitol? oh is that what they want? that would make it easier. what's wrong with this guy. and then of course he's going to do more warmongering there. >> romney: it is iran that is the leading state sponsor of terrorism and is the destabilizing state of the world.

the time of israel res choosing. what about this? >> israel will react strongly but not rashly.n 1998, we responded by launching attacks with missiles in to afghanistan and destroying the factory of the sudan. that's not what israel will do. if it attacks physically iran, it could trigger a war. that would not be at a time of israel's choosing. it will be pushed in a war. it's too wise to undertake that. israel will do what it traditionally does as it did on the attack on the athletes in the olympics 20 years ago. it found out methodically who did it and all of a sudden, terrorists all over the world turn up dead. that is the response that israel will do. it will be on a different timetable. >> bret: this is building between israel. >> no question. the thing is what will be measured retaliation, from again, the u.s. interest. what does it call for the u.s. to do to support israel? to make it very clear -- >> bret: look at the bus. >> the u.s. believes that iran was involved in this attack. evidence that we have not heard any such evidence thus far. clearly israel believes and as

backs israel all the way. >> all right. sara sidner in israel. thank you, sara. >>> tim roemer, the foreign policy adviser to president spoke with cnn's candy crowley. >> the threshold for governor romney is this. is he's equipped, is he prepared to become a commander in chief and when he gets off in the first leg of this trip and he goes to great britain and he insults the british people and david cameron the prime minister and the mayor of london both rebuke him, the question becomes this is if he can't engage our allies on a simple topic like the international olympics, how is he going to be tough enough to stand up to our gravest enemy like iran. >> well, you can hear mitt romney's full speech in jerusalem next hour right here on cnn. >>> now to syria where rebels and government forces are still fighting to gain control of the country's major commercial center. here's what's happening there. [ speaking foreign language ] >> you see the rebels there taking hold of that government tank and they claim they're making some progress. it's getting v

and israel. one that is a bit strained under president obama, governor romney is hoping to hit the reset button after a rocky reception in london. molly is here with more. >> governor romney will be careful not to critize president obama. hoe said that the people of israel deserve better than what they received from the leader of the free world. romney left england and en route to israel. he will likely play up the tough stance against iran's nuclear ambition and commitment to israel security. in an brew, romney talked about the stalled peace talks and said the question is not whether the people of the region believe that there is people of the palestinian state. but the question is if there is it a israel or jewish state. and he will meet with other military leaders. and the palestinian leader. he is not expected to meet with abbas. he only had time for one meeting and romney knows fayyad. president obama has had a chilly relationship with netanyahu. they have disagreed over the settlements in t

in israel to strike syria. well let me say i think we are missing the point by focusing wastes shifting the conversation more on israel and the united states i think if they wanted to to to to change the regime in syria and if the i mean you would say you would think that that would be the best scenario for them just to change a regime in syria because then they will separate syria from iran and there would weaken iran in their region to the sooner the closest ally in iran but they haven't done so and they for the sixteen months and they tried in my in my judgment they try to to to to wait for international consensus and they haven't to use really any unilateral or or aggressive methods and i think we should more focus on what is going in syria and here is the regional allies like saudi arabia and qatar they're the surrogates for the u.s. know all i think every country in the region wants to secure its own national interests you have iran's is saudi arabia there is the shia sunni confrontation there is the infl

israeli relations and israel's closest ally the u.s. calls what's happening in syria a democratic uprising but it could cause problems people problems in israel's border area how is it going to affect israeli u.s. relations do you think. well first let's let's remember here that the reason there is instability bloodshed and now and the overflow of refugees and certainly within syria and over the syrian border is because there is nato the cia turkey the g.c.c. financing and arming and so on the rebellion of armed gangs within syria so they stop that then maybe we can have enough peace and stability that people would not have to migrate out of their own country but as far as the borders with with occupied palestine is concerned i don't think that's the issue of refugees is going to be a major problem most likely a very large syrian refugees they will be going in the direction of lebannon turkey and jordan already ends or done we have close to two hundred thousand syrian refugees so you know this this is just another make up issue a make b

he asked israel to stand down.a lot of people didn't think that was the correct thing to do because it was their national security. then when mitt romney's foreign policy adviser suggested that, in fact, he would back an israeli strike against tehran, mitt romney, then mitt romney sort of backed away from that. so what are we really talking about here? are these just words? >> we're talking about no one wants a war. i think that's the responsible thing to do, push toward peace. i don't think you can call a president who has a kill list as someone who looks away when it comes to foreign policy, when it comes to national security, when it comes to foreign relations and foreign policy. i don't think that's a fair assessment. you might not be happy with the measure he's taken, but to say he's looking away and ignoring iran is think is an inaccurate way to characterize this. no one wants a war. no one can afford a war, which is another part of the conversation that we're not having. we can't afford to fight. so we're ho

>> it is reaffirming a position israel has long held.iously, it is not popular with the international community. unfortunately, i think it has inflated the popularity of the settlement. questions of illegality. under international law, and i think israel's position is quite sound, the right of the jews to live in the west bank was guaranteed in the league of nations mandate for palestine, which was the last sovereign in that area that was recognized by everybody. but i think the point is that recognizing their legal, i think should get as onto a point of, how do we get to peace? the focus on the "bil'in validate" has allowed the palestinians to sort of remain in the fantasy that the jews can be thrown out willy-nilly, not only to go back to the 1949 line, but it goes to the refusal to recognize the legitimacy of the jewish state no matter where the borders are drawn. >> ali abunimah, your response? >> wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all go out and commit whatever crumbs we wanted and then put on a judge's robes and declare it ought

yet they constantly be little and lecture israel, saying israel is not doing anything to forward thee process. israel has bent over backwards trying to move forward. palestine won't even sit down with them. then barack obama goes around the world and bows to the saudi king, not a little bow, but a big one. constantly sides with turkey when the terrorists attack israel. >> i'm sorry. as opposed to the bush family, who actually had the saudis into their home. come on, how about -- >> this is unbelievable. >> that he bowed before him? >> hang on. let me focus the conversation. because mitt romney's speech i thought was probably one of his best. and he talked about a morale imperative that the united states has and a solemn obligation that the united states has, and that is to stand by israel and support them as it relates to iran, privately. >> of course. nobody disagrees with that. >> hang on. >> privately we all know that thed obama administration has done everything they can do to prevent the israelis from doing what is in their best national security interests which is pretty obviou

where do you stand on israel? >> i am without question committed to israel as a jewish nation.inister of israel and i are old friends. i just saw him -- well spoke with him a few days ago. >> did he just said minister? anyway netenyahu said, and i quote: i wonder how this latest mitt stretching of the truth, lie, i don't know, will play with jewish voters. >> it's sort of awkward, right? did you ever have a friend in middle school who you liked a lot more than they liked you? it sort of sounds like that. but that clip of romney on the ray you show tells you who this is about. it is about those religious christian voters who have a symbolic and religious attachment to the state of israel, and romney's really appealing to them. he sort of -- sounds like he is trying to appeal to american jewish voters but that conservative christian right-wing base is who he is really talking to. >> do you think there's any reason netenyahu would care or want to distance himself or get close to romney? is there any underlying intenning on the part of netenyahu. >> netenyahu is a very smart guy. t

president obama went to israel as a candidate and what he did was he went to southern israel and met with the families of -- and victims of rocket attacks that were being launched into israel from their neighbors. and not friendly neighbors at that. and that trip informed his policies as president, which is why president obama has stepped up to the plate repeatedly and authorized and pushed through funding for the iron dome missile defense system and then on friday in the oval office signed the u.s.-israel enhanced security act which adds more funding and more batteries for the deployments around the perimeter of israel because he saw firsthand the impact of those and the harm of those rocket attacks and knew that the united states had to stand by israel's side. that is what a trip as a candidate for president should do, inform your policies as president. what mitt romney seems to be doing is basically throwing in a few meetings to basically dress up the fact that he wanted to raise some money over there. and that's a really cynical approach to a foreign policy trip. basically, it's

do you consider that to be part of israel? >> it is certainly part of israel. the decision as we move to a two-state solution as to what would be part of israel and what would be part of a palestinian state is something to be negotiated by the palestinians and the israelis. i believe that the key to that negotiation is the recognition that there will be a palestinian state, and there will be a jewish state. >> and so you support a two-state solution. do you support a two-state solution as an israeli state and palestinian state, basically along the pre-67 lines with what are called mutually agreed swapped? >> i support a two-state solution as the appropriate direction for the solution of the hostility, if you will, that exists between peoples here. but i also recognize the borders will have to be negotiated by the respective parties, and the original 67 borders will, by themselves, are not defensible, indefensible, from the standpoint of israel, and therefore there will be have to be adjustments to reshape the solution that is stoatisfactoryo both parties. >> yo

be the capital of israel? >> yes, of course. a nation has the capacity to choose its own capital city, and jerusalem is israel's capital. >> if you became president of the united states, would you move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem? >> i think it's long been the policy of our country to ultimately have our embassy in the nation's capital of jerusalem. the decision to make the move is one, if i were president, i would want to take in consultation with the leadership of the government which exists at that time. >> in consultation with the leadership. so not a promise to do so. >> reporter: the leadership has always said they want the countries of the world to recognize jerusalem as the capital of israel. so the israeli leadership would most likely say yes, do it now. but you hear him, again, stepping back a little bit because, again, no presidents since 1967 has actually recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel. zoraida? >> sara sidner live for us. thank you. keep it right here on cnn. this af

governor romney is pro-israel and recognized jerusalem as the capital of israel.ael. facing iran. and the government of people of israel are pro-romney. that does not just appeal to jewish voters. that appeals to americans who are pro-israel, which most americans are. governor romney very adeptly highlighted the distance between president obama, and the government and the state of israel. without criticizing president obama and without mentioning by name, nonetheless, the speech and the meetings. netanyahu and visiting the western wall highlighted that the fact he is unequivocally pro-israel. sympathy i think with the people and the state of israel. visiting the western wall. that was a striking picture on the front page of the newspaper today. especially because president obama has not been to israel as president of the united states. >> bret: a.b., the obama campaign said this to reporters, "when you look at this trip, it seems clear it's a bunch of fundraisers and photo tops and fumbles so we're not sure that romney is moving the ball forward or he is passing t

you know, mitt will go to israel. well, the olympics came along, mitt went to israel, and the media did not give up. >> right. right. and i don't think the media's really going to give up on this. you know, i think he'll continue to be dogged about it. of course, this is going to depend, lawrence, to some extent on how hard the obama campaign continues to press this issue. if the obama campaign drops it, then the media is probably going to drop it largely too, unless somebody happens to get a big scoop and get spoon fed, you know, many years' worth of returns. but, you know, it's going to be partly up to the obama administration to keep the light on this subject. >> steve, has to come up again in october at the debates. i mean, it is inconceivable that there would be a moderator who would not ask about this. especially in comparison to romney's father and all other presidential candidates. >> right, no, and what it comes down to, i think, is there isn't a clean way out of this for him. it's not like, okay, it's going