state of israel's democratic values what are some of the most imminent danger to israel's democracy it's not an easy question to answer because you see weaknesses in democracies all over the world i mean you see the erode the trust of people in their democratic elected institutions all over the west so part of what happens to the western democracy is happens to israel as well and this is. the performance is not good the feeling of the individual that somehow they do not serve me but the serve the they the elected they serve their own. purposes the goals are so fulfilment commissions or whatever it is and it's not for me so this part of it what happens to the entire west is that in israel you have at least three more components the first one is we spoke earlier and this is the inevitable lesion between church and state. the second is if you define israel as a jewish democratic state and the jewish project takes over the democratic project all of a sudden you realize that we have here and if we could democracy. democracy be possible. then you have just a little concept of democracy is a ki

possible not under international law wayne sorry israel but israel is serious repeating what israel is and then the united states gentlemen. all right i don't want to make a liar program on it is why it's really easy there's all of the world's big washington d.c. is the capital washington d.c. is the capital of america and we don't really care what the rest of the world thinks and i'm wondering israel feels the same way through slim's the capital the draw the israeli people are in fact the most industrious people in the entire world the most productive industrialist per capita the most successful entrepreneurial the fact that mitt say that it gets a lot of the american a it is through our ok penny go ahead before we go to the break well we give six billion is how i think your enemies so let's be fair go ahead penny. i would say i mean we are we are absolutely wrecked we do recognize the right of israel we do our record recognize you know the capital and of jerusalem and we also but at the same time are we also understand that we're also part of the larger conversation we're being asked

is israel's problem.but she will fight monday at tom on the need for case or a container, it will become your problem. so i think it should be a joint effort of the western society, meaning the u.s., israel, canada, but it will only be a leadership decision. [inaudible] >> i do not know. >> the u.s. is israel's only friend. i think people are pretty disgusted with the kind of undemocratic behavior going on there. >> well, if you show me a stronger democracy in the middle east, or a stronger ally of the united states in the region, i will agree with you. but i don't agree with you because the cheapest aircraft today of the united states and the middle east is in that region. we are in the front by not presenting the same principle. if israel will not be there come you'll find those forces coming to your shows. >> you know, i share your concerns about iran. i worry about it all the time. i think it's real. but growing up jewish, i learned that being jewish also miscarrying about the stranger from the bible

. >> our bond w israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. >> israel. (laughter) >> stephen: i was playing a drinking game last night where i took a shot of manischewitz every time -- (cheers and applause) every time someone said "israel" and by the end of the debate i was totally diabetic. (laughter) but, folks, this wasn't just about israel it was also about countries that pose a threat to israel. a threat that obama has done nothing to stop. >> we're four years closer to a nuclear iran. we're four years closer to a nuclear iran. >> yes. four years after obama was elected, four whole years have passed. (laughter) the president did nothing to stop the march of time (laughter) not only is iran four years closer to a nuclear bomb, if you think about it, everybody is. even me! (cheers and applause) admittedly, i'm still far away. the mentos and diet coke stage. but still. (laughter) and, folks, mitt laid out his prosecution of the president's weak leadership. >> four years ago the president began what i called an apology tour of going to various nations i

, the nation of israel. let's talk about that for just a second. mr. netanyahu has been unsuccessful over the past few weeks, no matter how much he has tried, even inside of israel, making the case that he has tried to make about the red line and backing the obama administration and the u.s. government into a corner to make a particular statement about these red lines. he has not been successful at that even with his speech at the u.n. i raise that because the jewish vote does matter. let's be frank about it. more important or as important, and jewish money matters. the biggest giver in this campaign on the other side is they do, -- is a jew. the issue of israel is important as is always in u.s. foreign policy. how do you think that plays out in the election, particularly given that netanyahu has not been successful, but a significant number of jews who feel that obama has been disrespectful to netanyahu? >> let me back up on two quick points. i think it is important to distinguish the jewish money from pro-

because whether israel is an asset for us you have to ask them ok though. not at all sure if we should continue with the kind of one sided strategy of the israeli government siding with the harshest. new york on american philosophy is. the more the more. called right wing. merciless capitalist economy on one hand and being very very conservative views of the enemies and powers and fears and threats etc preserve the some other stuff israel will not for long will be above the political debate in that it states of america it will be an asset for the republicans and a liability for the democrats in body and the media will be told to remove from the american political equations the severe strategic mistake. by the israeli prime minister binyamin at the neo israel should remain out. any political nuance in america partisan political nuance in america. thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. leisure. mission free credit taishan free transport charges free. range missile free risk free studio time free. download free broadcast quality video for your media p

in israel, sharon defeats barak.e comes down hard on palestinian terrorists, but then condemns jewish occupation of arab land. president arafat appoints mahmoud abbas as prime minister without any real constituency. and after standing back for two years, u.s. president george w. bush specifically calls for a palestinian state as part of the so-called "roadmap for peace." squeezed between hamas on one side and jewish settlers on the other, moderates on all sides wonder if these are the men to finally make jerusalem the capital of two states. in the region of northern africa and southwestern asia, turkey is one of the most strategically located countries in the world. americans learned why when turkey did not allow the u.s. access to invade neighboring iraq, despite nato membership and an offer of $6 billion. but turkey was torn, as they are on many other issues. are they european or asian? are they secular or islamist? are they democratic or authoritarian? are they urban or rural? here we explore the regional geograph

a partisan issue do you think that israel remains an asset. to the united states or has it become a liability new orleans for i can give you is america still in their support of israel because whether israel is an asset for us you have to ask them ok though. not at all sure if we should continue with the kind of one side the strategy of the israeli government siding with the harshest. new york american philosophy is. the more the most difficult right wing. merciless capitalist economy on one hand and being very very conservative views of the enemies and powers and fears and threats etc these are some other stuff israel will not for long will be above the political debate in that it states of america it will be an asset for the republicans and a liability for the democrats in body in the media will be totally removed from the american political equations the severe strategic mistake led by the israeli prime minister binyamin at the neo israel should remain out of any political nuance in america partisan political nuance in america. thank you ve

united states in a horrendous position that might lead to future wars and he's completely abandon israel and thrown her under the bus so where i agree with romney is our standing in the world was not helped by being nice and being naive and being apologetic and i'm very pro israel and i believe the united states of america must always be very pro israel and that's where i stand with mitt romney ok take a penny i'm going to go to you in washington what do you want to react to what wayne just said there. well it would be nice to know if we actually knew it mitt romney actually stood for i mean similar to where he is on the domestic policy we still don't have a clear picture of where he is on the foreign policy i mean again his speech after speech is just more about platitudes than it actually is specifics and he says he disagrees with barack obama but when you look at his actual what he does actually say when he gets to just as sampling of details it is it is similar to what the president said he says you know the president needs to be tougher on iran what are you going to do met or i'm go

i think israel if israel were convinced say mr romney is elected if israel were convinced that he would join in after they initiate an attack on iran they would be tempted to do so i don't think that israel is willing to undertake an attack on iran where there is the position that the united states would be taking might be questionable i don't think they have the resources to do it they realize is that there is considerable downside for them to and i don't see that as a potential option i believe that they are mostly looking at their their war rhetoric and their talk of red lines as a way of drawing the united states automatically into a conflict and that's what they were trying to trap president obama into doing with this this seeking for red lines they believe that romney is of course already on board just fun and can we take a one perspective of the troubled region the full blown conflict in syria the chaos in libya at the moment just one of the challenges though do you think the next u.s. president will have to face just briefly. well there is a fundamental challenge of the fundamen

israel's calls to bomb iran have stopped the u.s. presidential debate making support for tel aviv a very tough issue for the candidates as i see is a guy nature can explains president obama and his rival romney are now walking a tightrope with a less than two weeks left until the big election day a red line should be drawn right here the line beyond which lies war with iran. many thought benjamin netanyahu was message at the u.n. general assembly this fall was addressed not so much to the international community but to washington netanyahu would like to be able to communicate to the world that the israelis are ready which he has to attack and that it will be done with the full support of the united states and he's not getting that the tension in the media peaked when president obama practically referred to israel's world mongering as noise that he's trying to block out any pressure that i feel is simply to do what's right for the american people and i am going to block out any noise that's out there pledging full and unconditional su

israel's plans for iran go far beyond banning or supporting t.v. channels until of eve's top ally the united states will have to choose whether to back or block them archies going to can now reports for the next u.s. president it will ultimately be a choice between israel support and the good of his own people. a road alone should be drawn right here. the line beyond which lies war with iran and many thought benjamin netanyahu is message at the u.n. general assembly this fall was addressed not so much to the international community but to washington netanyahu would like to be able to communicate to the world that . the israelis are ready which he has to attack and that it will be done with the full support of the united states and he's not getting that the tension in the media peaked when president obama practically referred to is world's worst mongering as noise that he's trying to block out any pressure that i feel free to do what's right for the american people and i am going to block out any noise that's out there pledging full and unconditiona

has israel's back.g, yes, an attack on israel is an attack on the united states. what do you say? >> effectively, wolf, the president did say yes in every which way an attack on israel will be responded to by the united states of america. he could not have been more clear. governor romney essentially echoed president obama's answer. >> but he didn't flatly say yes. he just said the u.s. will have israel's back. bop schieffer pointed out an attack is an attack on the united states. he didn't say rockets coming in from israel -- >> we have a treaty with nato and we have different legal obligations -- >> should the u.s. have that same legal treaty obligation with israel? >> i personally think it should. i think it should be -- we should do everything we can to enhance israel's security. that's in fact what the president has done. as we speak, wolf, 1,500 american military officers are in israel participating in the largest joint american/israeli exercise in the history of the state of israel. that sends an

some people refer to israel as a one bomb country could do the same damage it would require hundreds of nuclear weapons to do to a much larger country so i think their concern is why take any risk that maybe the current leadership in iran is completely rational but maybe a future one won't be why take any risk that there could be these kind of miscalculations in a confrontation so say there's a that israeli iranian equivalent of a cuban missile crisis say over hezbollah or syria and instead of ending in a in a sort of tense standoff that reason. solved peacefully as in the cuban missile crisis this one actually results in the exchange of nuclear weapons i think the israeli attitude is you know we have maintained all along we will not be the first country to introduce nuclear weapons into the region we don't want anyone else to do so either because why take the risk you know when us president barack obama was addressing the un general assembly and he was speaking i think iran he said time for negotiations is not unlimited what do you think he meant by that i mean it's you think that t

israel security with israel because not only is israel security at stake israel is a true friend it is our greatest ally in the region and if israel is attacked america will stand with israel we will stand with israel and if israel is attacked we have their back look we know that both of you love israel but hold on it wouldn't be fair to highlight israel without talking about the daily human rights abuses suffered by the palestinians right so let's see what they had to say about palestine hyo awkward our aid we get it you got israel's back but really not a single mention of that little piece the land being bulldozed and slowly phased out of existence by the israeli military but i guess it's not that sexy to talk about is it in fact the only country mentioned more than israel during the debates was the wrong one and the rhetoric was so full of blatant hypocrisy in the propaganda was shameless. they have said they want to see israel wiped off the map. ok a hold up we know romney might be dumb enough to believe that's what argument it actually said about israel but obama come on man i kno

red lines israel and iran. would either of you and you'll have two minutes and president obama, you have the first go at this one. would either of you will willing to declare that an attack on israel is an attack on the united states which of course, is the same promise that we give to our close allies like japan. if you made such a declaration would not that deter iran? it certainly detoured the soviet union for a long, long time. we made that promise to our a plies. >> first of all, israel is our true friend. it is greatest y lie in the region. and if they are attacked i will stand with israel. and this is the reason why working with israel, we have created the strongest, military and intelligence cooperation between our two countries in history. in fact, this week we'll be carrying out the largest military exercise with israel, this very week. to the issue of iran as long as i'm president of the united states, iran will not get a nuclear weapon. i've made that clear when i came into office. we then organized

and if israel is attacked, america will stand with israel. have made that clear through the my presidency. >> so you are saying we have already made that declaration? >> i will stand with israel if they are attacked. and this is the reason why working with israel we have created the strongest military and intelligence cooperation between our two countries in history. in fact, this week we will be carrying out the largest military exercise with israel in history. this very week. but, to the issue of iran, as long as i'm president of the united states, iran will not get a nuclear weapon. i have made that clear when i came into office. we then organized the strongest coalition and the strongest sanctions against iran in history. and it is crippling their economy. their currency has dropped 80%. their oil production has plunged to the lowest level since they were fighting a war with iraq 20 years ago. so their economy is in a shambles. and the reason we did this is because a nuclear iran is a threat to our national security and it's a threat to i

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and by the way, you skipped israel. our closest friend in the region but went to other nations and by the way they noticed you skipped israel then in those nations you said america had been dismissive. you said that on occasion america has dictated to other nations. mr. president, america has not dictated to other nations we have freed other nations from dictators. >> let me respond. if we're going to talk about trips we've made, you know, when i was a candidate for office, first trip i took was to visit our troopts. -- troops. and when i twont israel as a candidate i didn't take donors. i didn't attempt fund-raisers. i went to the holocaust museum to remind myself the nature of evil. why our bond with israel will be unbreakable. >> so how does the race look now? karl rove is here tonight as a fox news political analyst. good evening, karl. >> good evening. >> greta: carl how do you determine who won? what is your measurement? tell me what you think. >> let's remember that when talking about winning and losing one frame

he was referring to israel.he country that ranks highest in european polls has the most dangerous country in the world. right about iran. not incidentally in the arab world, where the public regards the united states as the second most dangerous country right after israel. in the arab world, it ranks far lower as a threat among the populations that is not the dictatorships. with regard to iranian nuclear weapons, nobody wants to have them -- nobody wants them to have them, but in many polls, sometimes considerable majorities have said the region would be more secure if iran had nuclear weapons to balance those of the major threats. there is a lot of commentary in the western media, journals about our attitudes towards iran. what you read, is the arabs want decisive action against iran. which is true of the dictators. it is not true populations. but who cares about the populations? what are called the spiritually the arab street? that is a reflection of extremely deep contempt for democracy among western elites.

en contra de nuestro aliado israel. y para nosotros.s y formen. un gobierno. un tipo de consejo. que pueda ser los dirigentes. ceros rarose que tiene las armas necesarias para. y las manos equivocadas. porque pueden ser utilizadas. y queremos ceros raro nos el sfaourbz con lo aliados. todos tan preocupados por esto. tenemos que tener un liderazgo eficaz en syria, que estÉn armados los insurgentes sean personas responsables. y tenemos que hacer partir, al asad, tiene que irse queremos tener relaciones de amigos con las personas que van a tomar es puesto para que los prÓximos aÑos, veamos a syria como un amigo, y syria como un paÍs responsable, en el oriente medio. es importante para estados unidos y yo temo que el Último aÑo, el presidente ha dicho, bueno, primero que naciones unidas se hagan cargo de esto. y kofi annan vino y dijo. esto no funcionÓ. y entonces, buscÓ y dijo, ustedes pueden hacer algo. tenemos que jugar el papel de los lÍderes. >>> estamos desempeÑando papel de liderazgo, organizamos a los amigos de syria, movilizamos el

is a true friend, and if israel is attacked, america will stand with israel. i have made that clear throughout my presidency -- >> so you are saying you have already made that declaration. >> i will stand with israel if they are attacked. and we have created the strongest military and intelligence cooperation between our two countries in history. in fact this week we'll be carrying out the largest military exercise with israel in history. this very week, but to the issue of iran, as long as i'm president of the united states, iran will not get a nuclear weapon. i have made that clear when i came into office. we then organized the strongest coalition and strongest sanctions against iran in history, and it is crippling their economy. their currency has dropped 80%. their oil production has projected. their economy is in a shambles. and the reason we did this is because a nuclear iran is a threat to our national security, and israel's national security. we cannot afford to have a nuclear arms race in the most volatile area in the world. and they have said they wa

president or keep the current one in the white house many believe that israel has seen this time as a window of opportunity to strike iran dragging the u.s. into a war is there still a threat that it would do so in the main remaining weeks i think the concern about a possible israeli strike was higher a few weeks ago the israelis are now dissolving their parliament and calling for new elections on january twenty second so this i think changes a lot of the previous calculation of people that thought the israeli government might act before the u.s. elections i think now tend to believe wait until at least after u.s. elections if not actually after the new israeli elections now opinions vary but do you think iran has an intention. acquire a nuclear bomb i mean this is literally the sixty four thousand dollar question you know there's a pretty good read on what iran's capabilities in terms of uranium enrichment are the big question which i don't think anyone can give a highly confident answer to is does iran want a what people refer to as a threshold capability in other words its ability