and britain are leading the largest ever military exercises off the iranian coast as israel and iran trade threats of war. now tensions in the strait of hormuz between israel and iran are the focus of today's interview former director of the israel missile the fans organization ozy rubin paying the full picture of strife between the two countries. osea revealed the very first director of the israeli missile defense organization it's great to have you with us or today israel keeps all its options open when it comes to iran suspect its activity of making a nuclear bomb including war but could israel actually go to war with iran without relying on the united states. for pinions but i think the real question here is what is the. wisest. and if you knew a permission i'd like to explain that in a few words for the listeners for the iranian nuclear program has. one component is the commercial power generation which i think no one has a problem with the second. because enriching go for. nuclear materials into higher grade materials and this is dual use technology here who are the problem star

action what should be done i don't know but this is a discussion obama so far has said no on israel strike to iran i know that the majority of israel's military establishment is actually also warning against such as the only two people really building up this rhetoric at this point is the prime minister netanyahu and the defense minister afterward. why would they want to war when sixty one percent of israel's population is actually against it in your personal opinion. on a question of do they really want the war what do you think it's. described that way but you have realized it's a policy. of brinkmanship which both up to no results of a few. of them before i mean the. question is really is a political leadership going to really advocating go through that was inevitable. nobody knows that in the minds of those kind of the same as coming out and saying israel should be wiped off the map no one really knows if he means it. i say again we don't say that we should go to war but this is just a little political level you have to take it. very precisely they don't advocate going to war they're going to

option is -- the worst case scenario, the iran -- iranians attack. >> so iran will not be able to retaliate if attacked massively by israel, so therefore this should not be the case, not only that they will lose their technologies but lose face before their public and also the world opinion of who is supporting iran's position. so time, diplomacy, is on iran's side. >> just to get specifically to the original question, it is probably one of the questions right now. we know sanctions are effective, but the question is, are sanctions effective enough to get the iranians to change their behavior or to change their opinion, and i think one thing the u.s. calculation is that the sanctions against the central bank, sanctions against the oil went into effect in july and i think the thinking is let's at least see how things look after six months and whether they have that effect but i don't think anyone knows whether sanctions are strong enough to get the iranians to change the behavior and i think a lot of people feel they're not, and we'll see. >> and i already asked it but i'm going to take another go at it because i thought i

a low in welcome across a barrel of oil targeting iran and the fog of impending war while the us and israel publicly disagree on how to define red lines when it comes to iran's nuclear program what is the possibility of an october surprise will israel attack iran before the american election and thus force washington's intervention is well. taken. started. to cross out the possibility of a strike against iran i'm joined by me go khaled in san diego he is a peace activist and author of the general son journey of an israeli in palestine in tel aviv we have gideon levy he's a columnist and member of the hots editorial board all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect i mean you can jump in anytime you want gideon there's such a there's a concept called the october surprise meaning right before a month before a presidential election something happens to change it ok and our viewers may know some of those events what do you think the possibility is that israel unilaterally could attack iran if netanyahu is called gone to the united nations and made his case i mean he thinks he's right. it's h

israeli missile defense organization it's great to have you with us or today israel keeps all its options open when it comes to iran suspect its activity of making a nuclear bomb including war but could israel actually go to war with iran without relying on the united states department of opinions but i think the real question here is what is the. why is the. if you knew a permission i'd like to explain that in a few words for the listeners for the iranian nuclear program has three components . one component is the commercial power generation which i think no one has a problem with the second. because enriching go for. nuclear materials into higher grade materials and this is dual use took note of the problem starts again and this is legitimate but the pope of the who is what should have been all side because. iran could have both. for the supply of the. installation of washoe for the so why they need this independence square with. problematic the third. is the suspected nuclear program which do hundreds do not that is the problem they denied even in the beginning that they're going to enrich the dinar and here thi

israel. and. trained i believe that the chances of intercepted. a threat coming from iran is much better the chances of the threat to hit israel so i do believe very strongly in the capability of our defense system how important is our missile defense system as a deterrence to have an. major advantage of having a good missile defense. is that the other side even if it has unconventional capability. think twice and more before strike because its chances to get a counterattack maybe even bigger than his chances to succeed in the park what is your assessment of iran's second strike capabilities depends what happens in the first strike i don't know i mean. i don't believe that simply a strike to heat nuclear. facilities is what may happen the strike is something that may be doing a lot of different things and only after you see what happened in the first one you can assess what is going to happen in the second and i have no idea about what is planned if a strike on iran because we're likely to see a response from both hamas and hizbollah with hundreds if not thousands of rocke

if israel did not strike iran first first before iran did declare very clearly the they're preparing themselves to wipe israel from the globe which means that there is a real threat on their side in addition to that they did develop very carefully the delivery capabilities they have. ground to ground ballistic missiles of a few kind she had three assure him twenty five. most of them deployed in quantities and what they still need is to tweet the nuclear device to be put on top of those missiles in order to have the full capability to attack us no you just need to combine this activities and this capability is that there are always the threats of the iranian president and find out whether we need to be. in a position to try to do our best to prevent a nuclear capability it's believed that israel has several hundred nuclear warheads and very clearly israel is threatening to strike iran could it not be said that israel is the more belligerent party here the belief so with the israeli i don't know about israeli nuclear capability i know that israel is putting a lot of money in missile de

of continued concerns here that these war games and the recent statements are all signs that israel and iran edging ever closer to the brink of war. so sara for of reporting there well we'll have more analysis on the potential military faceoff between israel and iran later on in the program so stay with us for that. nearly two hundred occupy wall street protesters have been arrested in new york as they marked the movement's one year anniversary police wrestled many peaceful activists to the ground as they flew out of manhattan's financial district in the hope of blocking the entrance to the new york stock exchange has more the day began with hundreds of optimus and their supporters storming through lower manhattan some attempting to block the entrance of the new york stock exchange so the day progressed we saw many clashes between the new york city police department and activists that were walking through lower manhattan chanting we are the ninety nine percent and pioneering a message that began twelve months ago a message that started in new york city and then you went nationwide and ultima

and britain are leading the largest ever of military exercises off the iranian coast as israel and iran trade threats of. a new york city police crackdown and occupy wall street anniversary celebrations pushing shoving and forcibly arresting nearly two hundred activists. at ten am in the russian gavel you're watching r t welcome to the program and we start with ghana state where at least twelve people most of them foreigners have been killed as a suicide bomber rammed his car into a bus near kabul international airport and afghan insurgent group has claimed responsibility for the attack saying it targeted foreigners in response to the u.s. made film which mocks as long the violence is the latest in a wave of unrest triggered by the movie with demonstrations and attacks on u.s. embassies in over twenty countries worldwide. now as the movie continues to whip up rage across the muslim world lebanon has seen one of the largest demonstrations so far tens of thousands of venting their anger after the leader of the shia movement has called for a week of angry protest and while the masses were

a top commander in iran's revolution their guard says iran could strike on israel if iran is sure israel is about to attack. he went on to say that any attack on iranian soil could trigger, quote, world war iii. >>> and the concerns in this country about iran going to war where behind an unprecedented show of naval force today in the persian gulf. abc's nick schifrin reports in from the region tonight. >> reporter: officially, it's a defensive exercise, but it's actually a very loud warning to iran. more than 20 ships, sailors from 30 countries, a massive buildup to convince iran not to close this strait if israel attacks iran's nuclear program. is the threat that israel would go to war with iran and iran would mine these waters? >> the there fleet's there. my job is to make sure that this crew is ready for anything. >> reporter: anything means intimidating. guns run from the control room on the "us s ponce." >> we can see everything. doesn't matter who it is, what it is. >> reporter: ships that use mini drone submarines to hunt for mines. and a sonar device that drops through the bottom

iran says its program is solely for peaceful purposes and denies trying to create a bomb. israel will neither confirm nor deny whether it has nuclear weapons. iran allows inspections by the international atomic energy agency, but has denied the iaea access to its military site where the agency believes iran is developing nuclear triggers. israel has never allowed the iaea to inspect its nuclear facility in the desert. that facility near a town called damona came under suspicion nearly 25 years ago, when a nuclear technician there leaked photos and inside information to the sunday times. that information prompted analysts back then to estimate israel had already amassed 200 nuclear warheads. iran has signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty, but has been censured for failing to curb its uranium enrichment. israel for its part has refused to sign the treaty. israel's leaders say one of the most glaring differences between israel and iran on the nuclear issue is the language their leaders use. >> we don't call for anyone's annihilation. we don't foster terrorism. we don't threaten

iran. zpl well, it isn't just israel either. ahminedjad said he takes no one seriously who questions iran's claims that its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. >> translator: everyone knows dha iran is not seek iing a nuclear bomb or a nuclear weapon and so unfortunately, the scene resembles that more of a comedy show than anything else. >> a comedy show. maybe this would be funny if it weren't the real world we all live in. a situation that could all end in war. the national security counsel spokesperson responded saying president ahminedjad's comments are disgusting, offensive and outrageous. they underscore again why america's commitment to the security of israel must be unshakable and why the world must hold iran accountable. now, ahminedjad will address the united nations and the world in a speech on wednesday. that happens to be the holiest day on the juwish calendar. he's been aggressive on the need to stop iran's nuclear ambition. he says iran will be 90% to a bomb in six months. a bomb he says will hurt america. >>

hello and welcome to cross talk about targeting iran and the fog of impending war while the us and israel publicly disagree on how to define red lines when it comes to iran's nuclear program what is the possibility of an october surprise will israel attack iran before the american election and thus force washington's intervention as well. if you. start. to cross out.

israel if the jewish state is poised to attack. the unthinkable dilemma. what would the u.s. do if iran attacked or threatened israel or israel preemptively attacked iran. romney is using the many challenges in the region to paint the president as weak. >> look at are entire context. assassination, 20,000 people killed in syria. iran close to becoming a nuclear nation. these are far from bumps in the road. >> reporter: the president responded with a challenge of his own. >> if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, then he should say so. >> reporter: and tomorrow morning, diane, president obama will address the u.n. assembly a senior administration official said the president will reiterate his firm commitment to making sure iran does not obtain a nuclear weapon. diane. >>> all right, jake, thank you. as you know, while the president is in new york at the united nations, he and mrs. obama sat down with the women of "the view." their first time together their. and barbara walters is there with an exclusive preview of 43 days to go before the big vote. how do they

ally, israel, over iran's uranium enrichment program. there were harsh criticisms of u.s. policy from israel's leader today, and word that president obama won't have time to meet with him next month. margaret warner has the story. warner: israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu didn't bother to conceal his unhappiness with the obama administration today over its handling of the iran nuclear issue. >> if iran knows that there is no red line, if iran knows that there is no deadline, what will it do? exactly what it's doing. it's continuing without any interference towards obtaining nuclear weapons capability. from there nuclear bombs. those international communities who refuse to put red lines before iran don't have a moral right to place a red light before israel. >> warner: the statement seemed to come in response to comments by secretary of state hillary clinton over the weekend. she told bloomberg news that the u.s. is not setting deadlines for diplomatic efforts to get iran to stop enriching uranium. today state department spokeswoman victoria newland sought to play do

would be disastrous for israel as well without unleashing a thousands of rockets into and into israel iran itself has a nuclear arsenal of missiles if you do a lot of damage and and certainly on balance israel could do more harm to iran that iran could be to israel and certainly would not send back their nuclear program to any substantial degree in fact if anything it would give the iranians a motivation to go actually branched off from once as far as we know so far as the billion program and to actually developing nuclear weapons. this is coming up in a few minutes adventurous spirit. joins spots like bungee jumping and really jumping have become a really popular pastime here in russia so we're going to give it a go. to south park benches to point down but this time it will drive young people to take up with streams. that's coming up later but now to some other news from around the world and grieve syrian opposition knocks of its claims that twenty five people have been killed in the government as strike on the building in the city of al-bab assad forces say the strike targeted rebel forc

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andrea, first, israel wants a specific commitment from the u.s. on when it would take action against iranis the administration essentially afraid of being painted into a corner? >> exactly, lester, israel is asking president obama to give iran the kind of specific ultimatum the administration officials would say tie the president's hands and remove any ambiguity of letting the iranians dictate the timetable for action. it would also bind u.s. military action to israel's assessment of when iran is passed that point of no return and their assessment is different from the cia's timetable. a lot of this friction, though, is rooted in the fact that these two leaders just do not trust each other. add the fact that the rest of the region is now in conflict and we're in the closing weeks of a presidential election and you have a volatile mix. >> let's talk about that election, andrea. i want to turn to john. four years ago it was candidate barack obama being attacked for a lack of foreign policy credentials. now he is the one in the oval office dealing with these volatile moving parts, and it's g

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andrea, first, israel wants a specific commitment from the u.s. on when it would take action against iranis the administration essentially afraid of being painted into a corner? >> exactly, lester, israel is asking president obama to give iran the kind of specific ultimatum the administration officials would say tie the president's hands and remove any ambiguity of letting the iranians dictate the timetable for action. it would also bind u.s. military action to israel's assessment of when iran is passed that point of no return and their assessment is different from the cia's timetable. a lot of this friction, though, is rooted in the fact that these two leaders just do not trust each other. add the fact that the rest of the region is now in conflict and we're in the closing weeks of a presidential election and you have a volatile mix. >> let's talk about that election, andrea. i want to turn to john. four years ago it was candidate barack obama being attacked for a lack of foreign policy credentials. now he is the one in the oval office dealing with these volatile moving parts, and it's g

and iran are a whole different countries the last people who want for israel and iran to have a nuclear strike is going to be us. >> jon: sure. >> so the easier cheaper way of solving the problems is for the israelis and arabs to solve their problem which is is the israeli palestinian issue. it's very simplistic, obviously-- >> jon: no, i understand. but the thing you wonder is how much of the israeli/palestinian issue-- i'm sure it's very concerning to those other powers but do they use it to some extent to distract their own populations from their own economic troubles, their own lack of governance? are they going to also have to take responsibility for their own-- it's very easy, there was a big explosion, this terrible film that went on youtube and the arab world exploded. but, you know, for american wes see there's burning american flags every friday is obviously death to america friday, free wings. (laughter) you know, is there-- is there a sense that that language is also seen as vitriolic and volatile? >> well, going to the first part of the question. i me

welcome back to rostock you talk about your mind you were talking about israel's possible strike against iran. if you. started. getting if i go back to you what is the sentiment on the ground in israel about netanyahu is rhetoric and iran's ok you people take him seriously because in your own newspaper there was a poll that found that fifty percent of israelis fear for the survival of their country should there be a conflict so what's it like on the ground. principle of this. should surprise us because after two three years of spreading fear systematically. this has its outcomes. what would you expect from a virgin israeli who keeps on hearing day and night denied the. holocaust series around the corner. existences stay. with the judge these notes less than more than. when you hear all this systematically the media usually corroborates was this the israeli media so what you get is a few fool. people a fearful nation i think the. israelis. in their d.n.a. . exist and see their old they're very deep rooted part of the justified most of them totally manipulate the exaggerated and governments gov

targeting iran and the fog of impending war while the u.s. and israel publicly disagree on how to define red lines when it comes to iran's nuclear program what is the possibility of an october surprise will israel attack iran before the american election and does force washington's intervention as well. and is going. to cross out the possibility of a strike against. around i'm joined by me go tell it in san diego he is a peace activist and author of the general son journey of an israeli in power stein in tel aviv we have gideon levy he's a columnist and member of the editorial board all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want get in there's such a there's a concept called the october surprise meaning where.

that it would be disastrous for israel as well with on leash you know thousands of rockets into israel iran so far as you know nuclear arsenal of missiles actually do a lot of damage and and certainly on balance israel could do more harm to iran that iran could be to israel and certainly would not send back their nuclear program to any substantial degree in fact if anything it would give the iranians a motivation to go actually branched off from once as far as we know so far is a billion program and to actually develop a nuclear weapon. don't forget to look into websites for this story and more and also they don't call my name is a want you can find out right now the private e-mails of the month about the book containing correspondence revealing how i'm just braving the pad of a toxic face released in norwegian shops. close makes store to watch the footage of a mine so explosion on the sun and find out how it affected us here and that has also. they're cloudless childhood was overshadowed by this tragedy. they still feel the fear they faced. and remembered every second of the slightness. it

be a disaster for israel as well with on the leash you know thousands of rockets into and into israel iran itself has a you know nuclear arsenal of missiles actually do a lot of damage and and certainly on balance israel could do more harm to iran that iran could be to israel and certainly would not send back their nuclear program to any substantial degree in fact if anything it would give the iranians a motivation to go actually branched off from once as far as we know so far is a billion program and to actually developing nuclear weapons. coming up in a few minutes adventurous spirit. a gentle like bungee jumping at something at the can really popular pastime can russia they're going to give it. a good run but i think powerful adventures to find out firsthand what drives young people to take up and stream sports. but let's turn to yemen before that where a recent u.s. drone strike that claimed the lives of thirteen civilians has sparked outrage across the country now time which was supposed to target the car a suspected al qaeda militants to other vehicles and such strikes are part of a

israel. this is a much larger issue. it's the world, it's the west versus iran. i think that what bothers them, what really threatens them is everything that we stand for. not necessarily the things that we do. and i say we, i mean the united states, israel the rest of the western civilization. and they're being threatened by all the things we cherish and value. like freedom of speech and women's rights and so on and so forth. this is really what bothers them. i think israel is only the excuse. >> he was very clear to say several times, we don't take seriously. obviously he never uses the word israel. he always uses the word zionists. the threat of the zionists who attack iran's nuclear program. there is a lot of talk about whether the talk out of netanyahu is more bluster. and he could only do it if the united states was there. is there some truth to that is >> look, there is no question that our 193 member at the united nations, there's only one member, iran, that is openly calling for the destruction of another member. israel. there's only one member openly den

who was in charge of israel's missile defense about how serious israeli threats against iran over the country's nuclear research activities it's ahead. mosier revealed the very first director of the israeli missile defense organization it's great to have you with us sir today israel keeps all its options open when it comes to iran suspect it's to vittie of making a nuclear bomb including war but could israel actually go to war with iran without relying on the united states. nunes but i think the big question here is what is the. and if you knew a permission i'd like to explain that in a few words for the listeners the iranian nuclear program has. one component is the commercial power generation which i think no one has a problem with the second. because enriching both. nuclear materials into a great material and this is dual use technology to the problem starts again this is legitimate but the pope of the question i've been also odd because. iran could have both. that form the supply. installation it's a wash over there so why they need this independence square with but. the third par

big big deal and there are threats even now or rumors of the potential for israel to strike iran prior to the election here in the united states and it would be extremely interesting to see how the white house would handle something like that i've heard that what would that do to oil in the case that israel does bomb or overload skyrocket it was skyrocket i mean in the past few months you saw you saw crude oil take a dip to ten little retracement right came back towards the seventy five level didn't hit it or break it and then started to rally back up. and you're talking about big percentages sometimes you've seen you know thirteen percent in in a couple of weeks that could happen as far as a shift in crude pricing so if you're looking at an intense situation such as israel and iran if they went to blows for real you would see you would see crude prices absolutely skyrocket and the thing is that since two thousand we have now at some level become accustomed to the idea of crude at one hundred forty seven dollars we've gotten used to the price of gas the cost the cost of gasoline