on what is going to become the border between palestine and jordan. israel would continue to like this border. palestine is saying no, sovereignty, sovereignty. it will control its borders. sides with others, some international presence will be controlling this border for a timeframe of 20 to 30 years. we are getting closer to a comprehensive agreement. the issue of jerusalem, which is a sensitive issue for everybody, i think they're getting closer to some formula. jerusalem is the capital for two states with one municipality. run,feel it is going to be managed by a joint israel- palestine committee. and many matters will be managed by international committee, who have some stake in jerusalem, like saudi arabia. or morocco. let's see what happens in a few few days.- in a president abbas was in cairo a few days ago. he will be in morocco. for the first time since and 96, 1996,mmittees -- since the committee has made positive steps toward an agreement. >> you are speaking of positive steps. benjamin netanyahu is competing with hard-line nationalists in his coa

because we must talk about it we have to talk about israel palestine we talk about diplomacy your reading my mind how do you do how do you do that how do you do that's where thousands of miles apart you keep reading my mind that's where i want to go next so go ahead palestine. well unfortunately in unless the united states starts doing something to say to the israeli government you cannot continue with these settlement expansion if you expect there's going to be any possibility of negotiations the u.s. has not been willing to do that and so i see that well kerry has been successful in the case of iran moving forward nothing seems to be coming out of the israel palestine and as we are in this new year we should look at this tragedy in gaza where people are suffering from the cold they're walking in sewer they don't have electricity their lives are so miserable and we really have to figure out a way that we become real brokers in the issue of israel palestine not continue to be on the side of the repression of the israeli government carol you know one of my great hopes for two thousand and

because we must talk about it we have to talk about israel palestine we talk about diplomacy your reading my mind how do you do how do you do that how do you do that's where thousands of miles apart you keep reading my mind that's where i want to go next so go ahead palestine. well unfortunately unless the united states starts doing something to say to the israeli government you cannot continue with these settlement expansion if you expect there's going to be any possibility of negotiations the u.s. has not been willing to do that and so i see that well kerry has been successful in the case of iran moving forward nothing seems to be coming out of the israel palestine and as we are in this new year we should look at this tragedy in gaza where people are suffering from the cold they're walking in sewer they don't have electricity their lives are so miserable and we really have to figure out a way that we become real brokers in the issue of israel palestine not continue to be on the side of the repression of the israeli government carol you know one of my great hopes for two thousand and fou

kelly but i must add a pessimistic there because we must talk about it we have to talk about israel palestine we talk about diplomacy your reading my mind how do you do how do you do that how do you do that's where thousands of miles apart you keep reading my mind that's where i want to go next so go ahead palestine. well unfortunately in unless the united states starts doing something to say to the israeli government you cannot continue with these settlement expansion if you expect there's going to be any possibility of negotiations the u.s. has not been willing to do that and so i see that well kerry has been successful in the case of iran moving forward nothing seems to be coming out of the israel palestine and as we are in this new year we should look at this tragedy in gaza where people are suffering from the cold they're walking in sewer they don't have electricity their lives are so miserable and we really have to figure out a way that we become real brokers in the issue of israel palestine not continue to be on the side of the repression of the israeli government kelly you know one of

the israel palestine issue and relegated to a second level of priority and even to. act in such a way is to invite charges that it has an alliance with is it's really quite remarkable ambassador for me but i don't think our saudis concerns our ambitions and with just rivaling iran i don't know if you've been very complimentary of the about the saudi king abdullah your called him abdullah the great for his efforts to reform the country and. you know trying to limit the influence of religious extremists extremists but it's no longer a secret that his house leaves much to be desired and much of the foreign policy decision making is now concentrated in the hands of prince bandar the chief all for our security services and his masses of operation a somewhat different at least when it comes to syria. has not shy about the call parading with the extremists on those syrian front lines what is your view of saudi arabia's new role in the region and the tactics bad it seems to employ well saudi arabia continues to have a strong relationship with the united states particularly c

palestine except yours alone as a capital for chapbook to uncap. forclose states we are accepting jerusalem to be an open city west jerusalem as capital of israel and its euro zone as the capital of palestine and that people can move freely from east to west from west to east without any problem respecting the religious freedom for all religions and this is really how jerusalem should should look like what do you think of the canadian proposal to establish international control for the l.c.d. . well. i was a word of these. what you call it. slash non-official kind of if it's. canadian if it's just to present some ideas to told you the whole city of jerusalem but this is really only one off so many other floating ideas about jerusalem and old city old or holy sites within within jerusalem the use of them is the capital of palestine and we cannot accept anything less than the issues of them being the capital of palestine internationalizing the city or bringing an international body or international force to over see you know the city is unacceptable. you know and that's why. canadian words appreciated but you know could stay as an exercise what you c

but i must add a pessimistic note there because we must talk about it we have to talk about israel palestineyou talk about diplomacy your reading my mind how do you do it how do you do that how do you do that's where thousands of miles apart you keep reading my mind that's where i want to go next so go ahead palestine. well i'm fortunately in unless the united states starts doing something to say to the israeli government you cannot continue with these settlement expansion if you expect there's going to be any possibility of negotiations the u.s. has not been willing to do that and so i see that well kerry has been successful in the case of iran moving forward nothing seems to be coming out of the israel palestine and as we are in this new year we should look at this tragedy in gaza where people are suffering from the cold they're walking in sewer they don't have electricity their lives are so miserable and we really have to figure out a way that we become real brokers in the issue of israel palestine not continue to be on the side of the repression of the israeli government carol you know o

. >> the diplomacy is set up to end the conflict between israel and palestine.will address issues like security. now, we are going to dive into the two stories we have been talking ability. kerry's progress in the middle east and the bloody upswing of violence in iraq. john kerry's focus is in the wrong place in israel and the west bank. critics can't understand why kerry isn't concentrating on a turning point in iraq. al qaeda linked roots are taking control of parts of the city of flew shah. i have two guests with me. thanks for being with us. explain, first of all, what is wrong with the secretary of state trying to move forward with the peace process in israel? >> there's nothing wrong with it per se. there's something wrong with the secretary of state who left the war in syria raging and advocated that fight. the fight for syria spills into western iraq and about to engulf lebanon, it's odd that he heads for the tenth time this year to israel and palestine. there's no urgency there. there's really no room for settlement. israelis are now concerned with iran

promise what is to be done with the settlements what will happen to jerusalem and how will palestine and israel resolve the most pressing diplomatic problem of our time west the foreign minister of the palestinian administration. the conflict in palestine has been raging for decades. and list talks try to proclaim peace only to see war flare up once. now after five years of silence there is again hope. for the world's most powerful diplomats brokering a deal is a question of glory for israel and palestine it is about the very survival how much are they willing to give up to and bloodshed in the holy land. is peace finally coming to the middle east. really great to have you on our program today a palestinian foreign minister welcome so mahmoud abbas has said recently that good progress has been made in negotiations with israel and there's a possibility of prolonging the talks so what have the palestinian negotiators minutes to get from the israeli side at this point. well first of all the person who is in charge of the sponsor will to declare if there isn't a progress in the negotiations is that

if israel and palestine is on the road to being solved. the two state solution finds its resolution. then, the interest of israel and the city states starts to align more than they are. i do need clear eyes iran -- >> less than 50-50 he will be able to achieve? you said he wanted to be big. >> they all started wanting to be big. >> not just a name on a long list of presidents. this is back to the clinton question. what is his definition of big? does he believe in and deep recesses of his mind the chance of that has slipped away? >> no. i don't. despite his dramatic doubt, despite that tone at the end of the piece, the fact that this country didn't fall into a depression, and economic depression, which it could have done. the fact that we are out of iraq, getting there in afghanistan, the auto industry is saved, gay rights more and more insured now without health and the president, there has been no scandal in this administration, a rare thing, that science is discussed as science, that climate change how old were -- however woefully inadequ

and the president's speech this year was all about iran, israel, palestine sent a very troubling message after we had this whole buildup about transition to asia and that is the question that is out there. is there a strategy, does the second obama administration have a strategic viewpoint that is driving the behavior beyond one or two things they are focused on? i give the administration high grades for iran, doing a good job. we will see if it works. beyond that, i think that you have this whole level of uncertainty even in the middle east where the saudis, other gulf states, the israelis are uncertain what is america's vision about its role in that region, when the vice president went to tokyo a couple weeks ago, he thought he had good meetings, the people who he was meeting with didn't think so, and that is really the backdrop to the prime minister's visit and increasing efforts in asia by asians to work out their own increasing defense architecture as a hedge on what happens if the united states really isn't there for us. that is the question. >> i would say that our concern is focu

and i think there is a lot to play for on iraq, i am very skeptical of israel palestine, kerry made the tenth trip there and i think the likelihood he is going to get something done is virtually zero, for the life of me i don't understand why he is devoting that much shoe let tore that part of the world. >> rose: we conclude this evening with pierce singer coauthor of cyber security and cyber war, what everyone needs to know. >> it is a net plus for us having a conversation about this, that we would not have, i think we will get reforms that i hope to get some reforms. >> rose: we should have had. >> but the negative, has this had a negative impact on american national standing? on measure business caused over $180 billion of revenue losses that's a negative but the problem is, do i say known is at fault at that or the underlying program. >> rose: mike allen, ian bremmer and peter singer when we continue. funding for charlie rose was provided by the captioning sponsored by following. >> captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose.

if israel and palestine is somehow on at least the road toward being solved, the two-state solution is -- finds its resolution at long last, as it must, then the interests of israel and the sunni states start to align a lot more than they even are now-- and they are a lot when it comes to iran and syria. a denuclearized iran is a far different story than one with nuclear weapons in terms of the threat it poses in the region. >> rose: so he thinks it's less than 50-50 that he'll be able to achieve some kind of rapprochement with the iranians? >> well, a final deal. >> rose: you report that obama told doris kearns goodwin that he wanted to be big. >> i guess they all start out wanting to be big. they don't want to be franklin pierce. >> rose: not just a name on a long list of president whose pictures are lined up on the wall. this is back to the clinton question. they all -- what's his definition of "big," and does he believe in a deep recess of his own mind that the chance of that has slipped away? >> no, i don't. i think he is -- his -- despite all his dramatic doubt, despite that tone

he's trying to do this in syria and in the case of the israel-palestine question, both are immovablel immovable. if the united states stops playing two-dimensional chess and starts playing three-dimensional chess. >> what does that mean? >> review the iranian position in this, a win for iran is a loss for us. a win for us is a loss for iran. it's a zero-plus game. to say, look, we're not going to talk about syria or the nuclear option, everything goes. we're going to talk about syria, the nuclear option, sanctions and afghanistan and the gulf. we're going to bring iran in this process and negotiate this. this is freaked out the gulf states particularly saudi arabia, so therefore-- >> professor, i have to jump in because our window with you is about to close. that's terrific. i can't thank you enough for that. professor james, professor of modern middle east history. thank you very much, sir. >>> protesting ukraine had turned deadly, and now opposition leaders are asking for a 24-hour stop to demonstrations. at least three people were killed in clashes with police in a crackdown of peo

it's a question of israel giving up territory that it currently holds and the palestine is giving up aim to territories that israel held for a substantial amount of time. it's about the palestinians recognizing the state of israel. there is a certain exhaustion when it comes to israel and palestine and it's remarkable that john kerry decided for hes legacy that would be where he would stake it. i know it's that if you can thread that needle, the rewards in terms of middle east peace and international diplomacy are enormous, but it's hard to see where it goes. it's hard because kerry has not articulated anything new. he is trying to bring people back to the table to discuss what they want and already disagreed about it without showing it. that's the frustration that all of us who have been following the story for decades feel and that's what the people in palestine feel as well. >> from new york, thank you both for your time. up next, pop lift push for the long-term unemployed. we will talk about that, but first today's trivia question. -it is a good one. who is the highest ranking enl

if there is a conflict between israel and palestine it would probably be tanks, mortars and airdrops but to take the ballistic parts out, what would happen? you have seen it. israel did an attack on the causes strep a while back in response to repeated rocket launches coming out on israeli towns. the world does not like it. the world in general sees that israel occupies parts of, but they tolerate it. not much they can do than to make a cease-fire so what you see is what used to be long and tough brutal wars are now very short incursion said a three-year four days or a couple of weeks. the people of israel are tired. i know. they are tired of war. they thought they could get a deal david trade land for peace but can they get a deal if they have a responsible negotiator that can deliver a deal on their behalf. but as you raise the question secretary of state john kerry is in israel today trying to get israeli powless danehy -- palestine peace talks going again. this is a tough and unrewarding jobs. he went to do with it and the result is he becomes one of the west's goals in the middle

among palestinians, he was one of the muster about political figures and the history of the israel-palestineconflict. he seen as father of the settlement movement, an architect of the israeli invasion of lebanon which killed reported 20,000 palestinian and lebanese. commission of inquiry found sharon had indirect responsibility for the massacre of over 1000 palestinian refugees at the sabra and shatila camps in lebanon in 1982. to talk about ariel sharon's life and legacy, were joined now by three guests. in new york, we're joined by rashid khalidi, professor of arab studies at columbia university and author of several books including, "brokers of deceit: how the u.s. has undermined peace in the middle east." and just reissued, "under siege: plo decision-making during the 1982 war." joining us from his home in massachusetts by phone, noam chomsky, world-renowned political dissident, linguist, and author. he is institute professor emeritus at massachusetts institute of technology where he is talking more than 50 years. joined fromso professoravi shlaim, of international relations at oxford un

sharon endured a stroke in 2006 withdrewfter israel from palestine. >> for most of the past eight years, ariel sharon has been receiving treatment here at this in centralter israel. news of a deterioration in the former prime minister's condition has brought a flurry of media activity to the hospital. doctors say his life is on the line. has been in our hospital for the last seven years. he has shown signs of deterioration with some critical malfunction of some of his organs, including his kidneys. >> we feel that the situation is critical and some danger is expected for his life. >> this was in january 2006 at the height of his political power that sharon suffered a severe stroke. he never fully regained saysiousness, but his son he sometimes opens his eyes and moves his fingers. sharon's name back in the headlines, the middle east is again hoping to assess the legacy of this military figure. he saw action in all of israel's key conflict. as a minister, he pushed for the biggest expansion of settlements in gaza and the west bank, but in 2005, he did an about race and gave the order to

the israel/palestine dispute is not the crisis zone of the moment. you have the iranian nuclear issue, go beyond the borders in the middle east to afghanistan. you have a huge number of things he has to deal with. it's kind of -- all credit to him for trying so hard but this isn't the number one problem facing the united states at the moment in the middle east. >> jeff goldberg and nick burns, thank you both so much. to be continued of course. which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? that's up next on "andrea mitchell reports." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] what kind of energy is so abundant, it can help provide the power for all this? natural gas. ♪ more than ever before, america's electricity is generated by it. exxonmobil uses advanced visualization and drilling technologies to produce natural gas... powering our lives... while reducing emissions by up to 60%. energy lives here. ♪ i took medicine but i still have symptoms. [ sneeze ] [ male announcer ] truth is not all flu products treat all your symptoms. what? [ male announcer ]

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if there is a conflict between israel and the people who live in palestine, it would probably be tanks and mortars and airdropped bombs. but let's take the ballistic part out of it, and you're asking what would happen. well, we've seen what happens. israel did and encourage an attack on the gaza strip while back in response to repeated rocket launches the coming out of the gaza strip on the israeli towns. the world doesn't like it. the world in general sees israel's occupying these parts of palestine and wants it to be through negotiations but the world tolerates it. there's not much the world can do about it except urged the two sides to make a cease-fire. so what you see, especially the last couple decades, is what used to be very long, tough, brutal wars and now often very short incursions. three or four days, a couple of weeks. i think that the people of israel are tired of war. i know, i have family in israel. they are tired of war. if they thought they could get a deal, they would trade land for peace. the question for most israelis is can they get a deal. is there a responsible

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yet they space if we spit in our face when we try to you know broker negotiations between israel and palestine and they do things that are clearly outside the wishes of the united states like continuing to build settlements. you know in the u.s. continues to support them even even with this sort of defiance but i want to go back to something bob said we do agree that part of this this is a small issue that we're talking about in terms of entangling alliances and the terrible things that can occur because of them a lot of this is domestic us foreign policy and you know the the perception of people policymakers in washington what they think is the right kind of foreign policy. the global domination of the world this is essentially been the u.s. policy since world war two and especially the middle east where the united states wants to maintain absolute gemini and make all the other powers as weak as possible unless there behold in this there they obey our demands like israel sometimes you know this is this is a one small aspect of an overall grand strategy an overall foreign policy towards the wo

this is the right seem to be duped into bits of relationship between israel and palestine. and i would be it. any kind of what the remote removing me from here. we took some of the palestinian will consent to see how they fell fourteen to an israeli company. i'm the captain said this in mind that we are here. half of us are palestinians and half is really liking towards here in nineteen eighty eight. and now i've been here for fifteen years and seven months. i first came here as an employee as an entry level employee. and since then i've been promoting the anti gay guy in the head of the assembly departments in the factory. but the work is pleasant but it's a very good jobs. the relationship on the job between the israelis and the management's is that you sent. and more. what does that. it's all working fine we worked together we eat together and read together and is not a problem. they were out of me there is almost no difference between an era before an israeli but there is a difference in salary no difference in the book but in the salary there is not enough walk in the