. >>> israel versus hamas. ecretary of state john kerry is trying to broker a cease fire in the fighting between israel and hamas. it began when three israelis were kidnapped and murdered. then a palestinian you'll burned to death was discovered outside of jerusalem. fighting broke out. hamas rockets fired into the israeli. for ten days, israel used air strikes to attempt to stop the rocket attack. when those failed, the president there ordered a ground defensive aiming on the tunnel networks that hamas uses to bomb israel 700 palestinians and 35 israelis have been killed in the fighting. as of friday, 800 palestinians and 37 israelis have been killed. what does hamas want from a cease fire and what does israel want from a crease fire? >> hamas wants a lifting of what they call a seize they want to open and they would like for their airport opened and they want some kind of reward for losses they have had. the israelis want to decapitate hamas and blow up the tunnels going into israel. >> it has been the israeli

. >>> issue one, israel versus hamas. secretary of state john kerry is trying to broker a cease- fire to halt the two and a half weeks of fighting between israel and hamas, the palestinian movement that controls the gaza strip. the violence began on june 12 when three israely teenagers were kidnapped and murdered, presumably by politics. on july 2nd, the body of a palestinian youth burned to death in an alleged riprizal killing was discovered outside of jerusalem. riots broke out, hamas rockets fired into israely -- for 10 days, israel used air strikes to try to stop the rocket attacks. aimed at clearing gaza of the rockets and tunnel networsham uses to bombard israel. so far, some palestinian and the israelis have been killed. as of friday, some 800 palestinians have been killed and 37 israelis. the number includes many civilians. what does hamas want from a cease-fire and what does israel want from a cease-fire? >> what hamas wants is a lifting of what they call the siege. they want an end to the blockade. they want to o

not israel versus palestinians. it's israel versus hamas. have surrounding arab states whether be egypt or uae that are pro dismantling the infrastructure. you say what does israel want? they have to reduce the number of strikes on the population. >> the rocket attacks carry on. in terms of what's going on in iraq, how does this play into what's going on? >> it's not distinct abstract conflict from what's happening in the broader region. hamas is getting something from iran and cut tar. cut tar has been on the side of the regime in the past that has used chemical weapons against populations. you've had iran supporting the regime in the same manner. you're seeing proxy warfare in iraq with iran countering isis. one of the reasons the obama administration has not been supportive of israel as the u.s. congress has been is because the obama administration has to work along side iran to counter isis. this is not simply abtract territorial conflict but a regional proxy warfare. if that continue, it will be impossible to cease this. >> okay. many t

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hamas refused to agree to a cease-fire. part of it is because israel refused to meet the demands of hamas or the more moderate palestinian people. we think this is hamas versushere is moderates who need to do this. the other thing to think about is the international response to this right now. we have the muslim breaking of the fast for the month of ramadan and that happens around monday or tuesday. if gaza is being blown up in the midst of one of the holiest days of the year, you'll see an international outcry and international isolation of europe. or of israel. that's what you want to see -- i'm not sure it is going to happen, though. >> go ahead, ben. >> look, this comes down to the tunnels and hamas is completely out of control, even today. hamas leaders said they deny the existence of israel and of jewish people. when you're dealing with a group of individuals that say they deny the existence of israel and jewish people today and there is no one to rein them in and israel is very simply saying we're not going to continue to allow our citizens to be targets and we're going to close down these tunnels, until that happens, and until hamas is somehow the pa

hamas versus israel. i'm not exactly sure exactly what kerry can do about it. this is stuff that has been happening for a long time and i'm not sure how america can protect israel in this conflict. >> and returning to you as we part ways on this, i want to get your personal take, david. when we talk and, as hogan mentioned, the brutality of those practices, we're seeing more and more killings of these hostages. it's somewhat surprising given how it would send the message to keep them alive. you yourself have been held hostage by the taliban in your case. what do you think makes the different between captors who kill and captors who keep their hostages alive? >> i think it depends on the captors themselves and also the moment. i think killing these three israelis was an effort by hamas to provoke the cycle of violence and how do you stop it? this was the problem. they wanted to stop violence and it's working. >> well, it's more brutalitied and violence and puts the united states in a tough position. david, karen, stick around. >>> up next, the politics of immigr

you're talking about a very might aught military army, the israel army probably the fifth largest in the world versus hamasas basically primitive means in terms of comparison. that's why you see so many casualties on the palestinian side and so little on the israeli side. but what you see here is hamas is conducting some sort of psychological war while israel is conducting a real military attack. and it's true that maybe ben goron is a safe airport. i'm sure the whole sector has been totally affected in israel. >> mr. barghouti, general zinni, raffi, thanks very much. important information certainly we're getting. we'll continue to stay in touch with all three of you. coming up, we're live in jerusalem. it's a missile defense system protecting millions of israelis right now. how does the iron dome system work? we'll take a closer look at this state-of-the-art lifesaver. plus new strains on the relationship between the united states and germany. remarkable developments in a growing spy scandal. stay with us. you're in "the situation room" live from jerusalem. to fuel economy... to quality... today's chevrol

hamas versus the israelis. but it also plays up the central problem for israel, the dilemma, which is they see the threat coming gaza. they respond to it. rockets are coming their way, which are obviously ineffective. but the death toll on the palestinian side is so heavy with civilians, with women and children. how does israel deal with that? >> first of all, i think many israelis were shocked by the pictures that have been broadcast over the past few hours of the children. i don't think it changes the situation strategically. israelis have been trying to counteract the scenes being shown on tv and to claim that one should not judge this conflict based on the number of civilians. there's a whole line of israeli arguments about how hamas uses civilians as human shields, how it doesn't protect them like israelis do and so on. but i think most israelis realize, at least those in government, that they're living on borrowed time. meaning, another incident like this, another incident like this, and the international community, which has been very willing to let israel go ahead with its plans, will have to intervene

versus barack obama, speaker boehner moves forward. congressman mike kelly monday and pending lawsuit in the fight for the constitution coming up lou: israel and hamas militants in gaza, both are saying that they will suspend attacks or five hours tomorrow, they call it a humanitarian gesture at the request of the united nations. a senior official says the likelihood of a ground invasion of the gaza strip is very high. more than 200 people have been killed during the nine-day conflict in more than 1200 hamas rockets and mortars fired into israel. bashar al-assad today sworn in for a third seven-year term, more than three years ago that president obama have said that he must go. in washington, speaker john boehner taking the next step in his lawsuit against the president from the executive overreach. legal experts testifying today and one law professor saying congress must act to face self-destruction. joining us now is congressman mike kelly, good to have you with us. george washington university professor jonathan turley. what are the most respected minds teaching this in this country? laying out clearly the national media for the country. simply s

israel and various palestinians. but there is fault lines within the palestinians between hamas and the other part of the palestinian authority. you have sunnis versushia. iran versus saudi arabia and the arabs. you have secularists versus people who embrace religion in the political space. and the parallel i drew to the 30-years war goes back to the early 17th century in europe when for three decades protestants and catholics fought within borders, across borders, states came in behind them. and what we're seeing in some ways is the modern version. unfortunately, the weaponry has gotten much more powerful. and the lesson is this can go on for a long time and there can be tremendous damage. >> proxy war. you said it is believed this is a proxy war because the original intent was to gain control of egypt, right? so that's what they're saying that is a proxy war. >> it's a proxy war for control or dominance in the middle east. you know, you have the saudis and the egyptians on one side. you have iran. but the result of what richard is talking about, the reality that you have these larger fissures is that you're seeing something very interesting. becau

versus talking heads. >> my point is the hamas and palestinians have overdone it so much that we understand. the american people understand. the people in europe understand and certainly in israel they understand what hamas is doing and they're not being taken in by this any more. you say they're losing the pr battle. let me tell you something. 80% of approval ratings for benjamin netanyahu. the best numbers he's ever had. >> from the hamas wing of the party, but they were on this morning counterer netanyahu. send me a tweet on this show during this hour. when we come back, attention over the plane shot down in ukraine has more pundits taking down -- at president obama. and later, how i somehow started a spat between jon stewart and john mccain. >>> some of president obama's critics and pundits alike are focusing on his fund-raising and leisure activities and whether they send the wrong message. >> this time, president obama taking off for the west coast for a three-day fund-raiser filled trip. what about the crisis of ukraine and israel? >> the golf course knot the best place to be. >> if an airline is shot out of the sky by a missile, i think i would cancel my trip. >> before

versus talking heads. >> my point is the hamas and palestinians have overdone it so much that we understand. the american people understand. the people in europe understand and certainly in israel they understand what hamas is doing and they're not being taken in by this any more. you say they're losing the pr battle. let me tell you something. 80% of approval ratings for benjamin netanyahu. the best numbers he's ever had. >> from the hamas wing of the party, but they were on this morning counterer netanyahu. send me a tweet on this show during this hour. when we come back, attention over the plane shot down in ukraine has more pundits taking down -- at president obama. and later, how i somehow started a spat between jon stewart and john mccain. so what's this? check it out. i just saved 15% on car insurance in 15 minutes, so i took a selfie to show everyone how happy i am. really? because esurance saved me money in half that time. can i...? oh you can be in it! no need to photo-bomb me. hashbrown. selfie. yeah... that's not how it works. 15 minutes for a quote isn't how it works anymore. start with a quote from esurance and you could save money on car insurance in half the tim

picture of right versus wrong than israel fighting to protect its citizens against a terrorist operation operating underground and using palestinians they live with as human shields. hamas is a terrorist organization willing to let women and children die if there is a possibility it advances international sympathy for them and underscores israel in any way. the footage of innocent palestinians dying in gaza is tragic, but the blame is not at the foot of israel. it is on hamas. over the next weeks and months, the military action in did a disa may escalate. if a cease-fire is not negotiated, the united states cannot turn its back on israel. we must continue to stand with them and allow them to eradicate this terrorist threat and shut down these underground tunnels. it is their right as a nation and the united states must stand with them. thank you, madam president. i yield back. the presiding officer: the senator from utah. mr. hatch: p in, i want to compliment the distinguished senator from nevada for his remarks. they're true and i appreciate his leadership on this matter. madam president, the senate is currently debating the so-called bring jobs home act, the bill supp