issa objected. beginning to see why. >> yeah, some is coming out.t request from a liberal group that got the irs list. they write that the 22, be on the lookout, key word list, staff delivering applications between 2010 and 2013 included more explicit references to progressive groups, acorn, and pod organizations than to tea party groups? >> yes. and, contrast to what we had heard earlier. and i suspect what you will hear, the republicans say, is well it wasn't the screening that they would actually go after the, the tea party groups, and delay their applications. more extensively. the problem here is as we have seen over and over again. we don't actually is going on. he could come up with the smoking gun. it would be hard for people to know nor sure what he is talking about. >> that getz to the larger piece i get frustrated with and some people that follow politics do. when this story broke. i would describe the coverage as basically a bunch of people seizing on it making it more than it was. unfairly. and then, i will tell you, i went on tv, i sai

in taking this step, chairman issa walks in a path of giants. giant whose were later deemed to be unhinged crusading lunatics. as a point of fact, no witness has been held in contempt of congress since the red scare of the 1950s and 1960s. and no witness who has testified in person has ever been convicted of contempt charges in court. in fact, a report outlining the history of contempt charges determined that issa's tactics bear a striking resemblance to those used by senator mccarthy, the same joe mccarthy whose anti-come mist paranoia led to the censure by the senate, the same mccarthy viewed as a stain on our nation's history. not lost on congressman cummings who, today at least, was allowed a turn at the mike. >> i cannot -- it would place me on the same page of history books as senator joseph mccarthy or the house of american activities committee, and i do not enjoy that comparison lightly. >> with all of the stink of joe mccarthy hanging in the air, the gop yesterday outsourced the witch hunting to another republican. house ways and means

. >> this bill was introduced by congressman darrell issa, one of the wealthiest congressmen on the hill. i agree with him on some issues. he has taken a stand on some privacy issues. there are moments of common ground there. >> what do you think, robert? >> one of the best little nuggets of republican gossip on capitol hill is that darrell issa may be eyeing a presidential bid in 2016, so who knows how this current legislation fits into that possible calculus. we'll see. >> of course, the final big predict story of the day, congressman michael grim surrendered to the fbi today and then was subsequently released

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much paper as darrell issa possibly can and use it as sort of a witch hunt as darrell issa does. >> and other thing that darrell issa does is that he selectively puts out the information that he thinks will bolster his case. meanwhile when you take a look at all the other information that's out there. his case falls apart. the fact that we were going back to healthcare.gov shows how desperate they are to keep the conversation going. yes, the roll had been out of healthcare.gov was a disaster. the president knows it, kathleen sebelius knows it everyone knows it but the only problem is that affordable care act is much much bigger than a website and many of the provisions have been up and running for a long time now. and if republicans, darrell issa want to you know go through the motions of repealing a law that has made it possible for parents to keep their kids on their insurance until they're 26. no caps on care, no denial of insurance based on your preexisting conditions, then let them have the sr. at it. then they can deal with the hell they'll have to pay from people who have been be

issa should note the difference between investigation and witch-hunt. too often the former has turned into the latter. he now that is whip in his hand and the investigative power, as we have so many times in american history seen it can be grossly abused. i have more. >> if you had more time, i'm sure you would use it. we now go to the gentleman from pennsylvania. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i have consistently listened to the representations of my colleagues on the other side invoking mccarthy. i want to be clear. mccarthy was acting in a manner in which he was challenging the beliefs of other people. here, we are not challenging the belief s of other people. we are challenging the actions, the alleged actions of lois lerner in which she used the forces of her governmental agency to impact the civil rights and beliefs of american citizens and that is a distinction. the issue here is really quite simple. apart from all the politics. e are making fundamental legal analysis. the question isn't whether it has been invoked many times whether she is being de

chairman issa has led the charge. relentlessly pursuing nonexistent scandals for political purposes. >> also today, congressman comings released a report calling darrell issa's rele relentless report of the irs fawkes scandal mccarthy like. we oppose chairman issa's efforts to recreate the oversight committee in joe mccarthy's image and we reject his attempts to drag us back to the shameful era that had to do with the responsible oversight. >> that hasn't stopped chairman issa from pressing on. they plan to hold [ inaudible ] former official lois learner in contempt of congress tomorrow for allegedly failing to comply with a congressional subpoena after supposedly waving her fifth amendment rights. something that congressional legal scholars say the committee can't do because learner's fifth amendment assertion was never overruled before issa pulled the plug on the hearing an on congressman cummings microphone. it also hasn't stopped the house ways and means committee chairman dave camp from holding a vote on whether

issa and he'll tell you, of course not. >> mr. chairman, how much of this is a political play for republicans in the election? >> none. not a shred of it. not a smidgen of it. not a smidgen of it. >> not a smidgen. and moments ago, we learned that eric cantor says next month the house will consider a contempt of congress resolution against former irs official lois lerner unless she testifies. we're starting to have to call this finney fridays. this is becoming a regular thing, girlfriend. >> i like it. it's a lot of fun. >> it's a lot of fun. what is not fun, i'm sure, for lois lerner to be repeatedly targeted. so now this new news a contempt of congress citation being considered against her, how do you respond to that? >> well, they had given us an inkling they were going to do that. they can't get to the president, can't get to holder. they're going to pick this lower level person. you know, and remember, they attacked her for invoking her fifth amendment rights earlier a couple -- just a couple weeks ago, frankly. you know, thi

>> i think katie has to understand, this is a driven by darrell issa. >> who is not white. darrell issa is not white he is lebanese. >> i am sorry, i don't know how to handle that. >> he is a white man in american. >> no he is not. >> okay, up to you, i'm telling you most. ashley: that brins know a good points. >> i will say, that darrell issa drove this in the heart of the substantive complain against eric holder, he did not provide document, he was not cooperative, he did not treat congress with respect of a coequal branch of government. if you look at that charge, what you discover is, eric holder testified multiple times, thousands of pages of documents, thousands of e-mails, and that even republicans, former attorneys general said you can't get into the workings of the justice department in the way that issa wanted, without risking criminal prosecution. >> all right, let's put iric holder issue aside. we could be here all night, bring up kathleen sebelius saying that is it i'm out of here. kate to you quickly. >> i think that we saw this coming with a week ago presiden

even chairman issa in june of alerted i.r.s. republicans who really helped launch some of the investigation.al we heard in previous comments of senator, several of 2012 wroteruary of i.r.s. and the investigation actually inrted, and i penciled it there, march a month later, the inspector general began a review of this matter. the fact we now find that even had said thatho they had made certain contacts, in august of.s. 2012. again, the question before us is a contempt against lois lerner. she was given the opportunity to come before us and she came the first time in may, that's less than a year ago, and to cooperate and testify. opportunityanother just weeks ago to come back and to testify. meantime we interviewed over 30 witnesses, almost every one of them, and i'll put this the record, almost every one lerner.pointed to lois she started this whole thing out -- >> will the gentleman yield? yield.ll not i will not yield. >> the gentleman's time is -- gentleman's time is his. we'll have regular order. continue.man may >> in fact,

issa has copied him in three ways. first he is using legislative committee to pursue his personal mission to stop people from destroying democracy and second accused people without having conclusive facts. third only letting his views be poised in the committee. another quote through a campaign of innuendo and half-truths he issa has -- since that time he has had a witchhunt against irisin plays the likes of which have not been seen since and are joe mccarthy ran for senate on american activities committee in the 1950s. he is selectively release portions of the transcripts of an alleged scandal and cover-up without releasing the -- another quote in one interview that chief congressional investigator introduces cherry-picked evidence overstating his case and violated the sacred american principle presumed innocence. do you hear history's echo? and democratic ages way to infamy with 205 names as the "national journal"'s editorial and another and i quote as the new congress succeeded too often in our political history it

even chairman issa in june 2010 alerted irs. it was not republicans who really helped launch some of the inspector general investigation. in february, we heard previous comments from democratic senators. in february, 2014 -- -- february, 2012. the investigation actually started, and i penciled it in, march, a month later, the inspector general began to review this matter. we now find that even mr. cummings who had made certain contacts at irs in august, 2012 again, the question before us is contempt against lois lerner. she was given the opportunity to come before us and she came before us the first time in may. that is less than a year ago. and she refused to cooperate and testify. we gave her another opportunity just weeks ago to come back and to testify. in the meantime, we interviewed over 30 witnesses. almost every one of them, and i will put this in the record, pointed to lois lerner. she started this whole thing out. >> will the gentleman yield? >> i will not yield. >> the gentleman's time is his. we will have regular ord

it hasn't happened since 1968, yet now issa wants to do it again. aren't these gop witch hunts way out of line with how washington is supposed to function, jonathon? >> well, yes, and washington has been way out of line in the way that washington is supposed to function for quite a while now. you know, they could be working on all sorts of things that you talked about at the beginning of this segment, extending unemployment benefits, equal pay for equal work, getting jobs bill passed to put the american people back to work, but instead, they keep focusing on so-called scandals, whether it's irs, benghazi, fast and furious, there are probably a whole lot more that i can't even remember, but they are so focused on that. one, to ding the president and to keep the president on defense, and also not to give the president a win in their mind, but also these kinds of so-called scandals and controversies and fights with democrats and putting the president on the ropes plays well with the conservative base of the republican party. when people do things like

, issa, graham, benghazi, irs, they come to fast, you have to watch out.ner, let's put him on the spot. what's his number one phony scandal. >> the american people have not been told the truth about what happened at the irs. the american people have not been told the truth about what happened in fast and furious. the administration has not told the american truth about benghazi. >> all of the above. should have seen it coming. republicans don't have an agenda for the country. all they have left are these fact-free, phony scandals that they hope will distract the american people. but it won't work. joining me now, joe mad sop anne bill fresh. did you for being here. >> good to see you. >> the more these phony scandals get debunked, the more the right wing pushes them. what's going on here? >> let's stick with the boxing them. all three of us are old enough to remember rope-a-dope, right? this is what this is. they keep punching, punching, punching. and then to keep with the boxing metaph metaphor, all we have to do is let them punch themselves out, because

issa says, what are these documents?ere's more evidence to suggest there's more here? he's demanding an answer by the end of april. >> what are they going to find if they get all these documents? the president himself has said countless times i was as surprised as the rest of the country it didn't work. >> that's why we got a statement from a senior white house official who told me, quote, there is nothing extraordinary about the fact that h.h.s. has made a small number of redactions in the many thousands of pages of documents it has produced. what they're saying inside the white house is the only reason darrell issa knows anything about this issue, they've already turned over more than 8,000 pages about what was going on with the rollout. but obviously the republicans on the hill aren't satisfied and they say they want more information because when stuff starts getting redacted, they're wondering if there's more there. >> seems to be a theme of transparency on "the real story" today. we've been talking a lot about it. >

let it all out. >> let me start out by saying darrell issa is a failed chairman. >> why do you think -- >> can i finish what i'm saying? would you let me finish what i'm saying? >> i said both sides do it. >> no. listen, let me just put it this way. issa has held hearing after hearing after hearing and all they have got is lois learner may be doing this. they have nothing back at the white house. the implication of course is goes back to the white house. it's also b.s. they can't prove that. the number of flooding of tea party applications of enormous that year and there weren't that many progressive groups being put in there. >> so bob, that is the new talking point, you get to say all the liberal groups are targeted too but now presented with sworn testimony from irs employees, you can say i didn't really mean that? >> this isn't too outlandish, bob. lois learner when she worked for the scc, has a history of this. they found a memo from lois learner to her staff talking about very detailed increased scrutiny for conservative groups. you know the truth? >> why didn't he come up with

yet chairman issa has continued -- has at certs thanks continued to leak excerpts. chairman issa leaked portions of an irs tax specialist interview to support his conspiracy theory of political targeting. when she saw any evidence of a plot, to target the president political enemies, this republican irs employee said no. not at all. that kind of laughable that people think that. not at all. this is purely cases that unfortunately cincinnati didn't have enough guidance on. the area is very difficult. perhaps the chairman is more concerned at the release of these transcript will give the public a roadmap to the truth behind this partisan rhetoric. let us in the partisan bickering. let's provide the fax. are you afraid of transparency? is there something in those transcripts of the public doesn't deserve to know? it will not hurt the criminal investigation. it may actually help the department of justice. >> i thank my friend from nevada for yielding. i want to speak in favor of the motion. the american public deserves transparency. in an investigation, chairman partisa

chairman issa, before i yield back today, it is important day. and story day. i know other members want to be rid of them. -- want to be heard on that. >> if the gentleman would yield. >> yes. >> i cannot support releasing the documents in their entirety. there are two reasons. the gentleman has the right to select documents and use it in reports and appropriate material. i encourage you to do so. as i have said previously, it is ill advised. i would ask you to restrain themselves from releasing these documents in their entirety. it does provide a roadmap as to questions and answers. however, it is my intention to release redacted versions of these interviews once we have completed all interviews, and after the discovery process has been delivered to us. i might note that just a few days ago, the commissioner told us it might take two years to get us documents. it should give us less time to get all of lois lerner's e-mails. once we have substantially received those documents, which i expect to be in a matter of weeks, i am certain to work with the ranking memb

dave camp has taken to acting like darrel issa. he shut down congressman levin. there is this attempt not only to create -- or inflate this scandal but also to shut down

he says there is other evidence that issa had. >> is he making public? is this congressman elijah cummings. >> glums nothing to prevent him from putting it on the table to look at. >> issa technically has control of a lot of the messaging out of this committee and a lot of what becomes public. >> you mean elijah cummings? nothing has stopped him from talking. if he has the documents i'm sure he would put them out. >> there that's what democrats are, chicago. they are charging it's election year stunt. this san issue that really charges us republicans. >> if the republicans are wrong on, this i think that the democrats ought to come charging throughout with the right documents and not just that, you know, let's have it, right? >> yeah. and as alex said, this is something that's not going away any time soon. this is understood by both parties to be radioactive issue that, you know, anything that keeps us in the news is obviously god for republicans, but, it's also somewhat difficult for democrats to totally paint this as a sort of needless exercise. what t

issa: i thank the speaker. we have no further speaker at this time, i reserve the balance of my time to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from the district of columbia is recognized. ms. norton: we have no additional speakers and i would like again to express my strong support for this bill, to thank chirme issa for his many efforts get it passed and through committee more than once, and i yield the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady yields back the balance of her time. the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. issa: thank you, madam speaker. in closing, this last weekend, the associated press talked about the waning days of this congress and expected to have a do-nothing congress. that's easy to say. but in this case, today, we're showing on a bipartisan, bicameral basis, with our friends in the senate, that there are major pieces of legislation that will save countless billions of dollars and provide better information to the american people and to the watchdogs wh

this is the latest in a bitter feud between i issa and cumming. remember lois lerner's last appearance on the hill? >> i'm a member of the united states of america house. we represent 700,000 people. you cannot have a one-sided investigation. that's absolutely something wrong with that and it's absolutely un-american. martha: remember that moment? that was a feisty exchange. we may see more of that today. allison barber joins me now. what do we know about cummings request for more information on true the vote? >> issa is saying in january 2013 some of cummings staff member reached out to the irs saying we are looking to do an investigation and look into the tax records and fax exempt status of this one group true the vote. previously you had the founder and president of true the vote testifying before a subcommittee. she brought up the fact that cummings office and the irs contacted her and made requests for information. her attorney suggested perhaps cummings' office played a role in putting true the vote on the irs radar. cummings said that wasn

. >> daryl issa channels the ghost of joe mccarthy.unt gets spookier. daryl issa's house oversight and government reform committee took the rare and historic step of voting to hold a witness in contempt of congress. in this particular instance, that witness is lois learner, the object of chairman issa's year-long multimillion dollar crusade to find something, anything, iffy at the irs. republicans who have chosen to march lock step with issa on his dark mission claim that lernor violated the law after she made opening remarks last year. the full house is expected to take up the contempt resolution in the coming weeks. in taking this step, chairman issa walks in a path of giants. giant whose were later deemed to be unhinged crusading lunatics. as a point of fact, no witness has been held in

issa's overhaul. so what's been the main obstacle to reform? house republicans. bill if 2012, the house did nothing as it usually does and ignored the bill in favor of more important legislation like appealing the affordable care act for the umpteenth time. two republicans or at least the party that may actually still be interested in legislating. if you at long last want to work in a bipartisan manner to get something done, the guy who has been running around with a flaming torch on a multiyear witch hunt, that guy, maybe not the best guy to extend the olive branch. >>> after the break, it is not entirely uncommon to see someone screaming in new york city, and the same question to strangers. we will ask billy on the street, billy eichner, first courtney reagan has the cnbc wrap. >> here's a story on how stocks stand. a relatively quiet day of trading. the dow closing up 41 points the s&p gaining 27 and the nasdaq adding 27 points. that's it for cnbc worldwide. defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. calcium citrate plus d. highly so

keep in mind that chairman issa had an opportunity to hear from ms. lerner.s a matter of fact, her lawyer back in march asked for a one-week delay. he was going to bring her in and she was going to talk about, you know, whatever he wanted to talk about, but he denied them that opportunity to come in. so you have to wonder, you know, is this about dragging it on? and tomorrow we'll have a vote, and i expect that they will try to find her in contempt. >> how are you going to vote, do you know? >> of course i'm going to vote no, because i think that she has a constitutional right not to incriminate herself. i think she did that. she asserted her right, and we have not seen this since the mccarthy era where somebody had asserted their right not to incriminate themselves and then was placed in contempt criminally for asserting their right. that's basically what it boils down to, and we've got 30 experts, both republican and democratic experts, who say that this whole issue has been botched. and so when it goes to the courts, it's going to have a very difficult tim

frankly, i have had my own experience with darryl issa, the committee chairman. he put out a report about housing a few years ago, with a very blatant error. and i saw him in the hall and said, let me prove to you how wrong this is. and he shrugged his shoulders and he said, well, that happens. no regard for the truth. you talked about a double standard. how we treated them. take benghazi and take libya. when many more americans were killed, it was early on -- i mean, lebanon. early on in my congressional service. under the presidency ronald reagan, there were a couple of hundred marines in a barracks in lebanon, that had been sent in there to try to stabilize the situation. and the place was unprotected. and a truck full of explosives drove in, and i don't know -- i think it was 280 marines, a terrible tragedy were killed. we democrats were in control of the congress. ronald reagan said, well, you know, it wasn't ready, but sometimes, when you're building a house, it takes longer to finish the kitchen than you thought. we didn't engage in the kind of demagoguery

stuart: we are learning about that exchange was elijah cummings and darrell issa.arrell issa is accusing cummings of colluding with the irs to target the conservative group true the vote. darrell issa says a member of cummings's staff repeatedly contacted the irs asking for derek. lerner, the woman at the heart of the scandal was involved in responding to those requests. monica crowley is here. that is not all. dave camp, his committee has released information that shows that lois lerner went around people, over their heads and quite deliberately targeted karl rove's crossroads group and said why aren't you auditing crossroads? goes on. >> this is the tip of the iceberg. those two groups, karl rove's crossroads, high-profile groups, people generally know what they are and who they are, who represents the mend what they do but think about the countless small local tea party groups, pro-life groups, religious groups that were targeted in the same way by the irs and don't get this notoriety. that is what the team is looking into. interesting that it was dave camp and

> when she said is in correct, and not true. >> this is the same congressman who compared chairman issa on joe mccarty in a press release before the beginning of today of's proceedings, our first guest will vote on contempt charges against lerner tomorrow, he said it is simple, when you have a duly issued soupine a must comply with it that is law and it is not optional he said. joining us now, congressman jason -- member of house oversight,. >> you disjudiciary committee, this vote tomorrow how do you expect it to proceed, and what will be result? >> we'll get kicked off at 9:00 a.m., i am sure there will be a lot of verbal jousting going on back and forth a lot of flailing of arms, but, it is about this 21 page document that i have in my hand that demonstrates clearly that lois lerner waiveed her fifth amendment right when she testified before congress then tried to evoke the fifth as my cleg colleagues have pointedt she had wave waiveed her fifthment in right, she will not comply with a duly issued souqina we're left -- soup ani anina. -- soupinea. >> congressman cummings saying that

as my colleague and chairman issa and others pointedous, she waived her fifth amendment rights. she has to answer. we're left with no option but to hold her in contempt of congress, refer that to the full house, and hopefully have a vote on that before the end of the month. >> congressman elijah cummings saying that darrell issa's basically joe mccarthy 2014, and at the same time cummings is charged with directly intervening in the affairs of the committee and going directly to lois lerner. your reaction. >> i don't like it when it gets too personal. i remember speaker boehner when i first got to congress, which wasn't too long ago said, you know what? you can disagree, just don't be disagreeable. i think sometimes when it gets to be too personal when they try to call someone or equate them to joe mccarthy, in that era, i think that steps over the line a little bit. we just need to look at the facts, and the facts remain that these conservative groups were targeted repeatedly, and when you have through the vote and some of these other organizations, police inget breath who is as

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whether she really can be held in contempt based on what happened before the committee. >> darrell issaing member, congressman cummings, before lois lerner could be apprised of her rights. this idea that there was obviously something improper or maybe something not done right. if, in fact, the statute says that you can't have tax exemption, meaning you and i and every taxpayer subsidyizes you unless you are exclusively doing social welfare and you send me an application that in the name of your organization says that youment to restore democracy, restore liberty, reduce the size of government, something that has to directly to do with your politics, i don't get how that's a scandal if someone gives that extra scrutiny. what is scandalous about that? >> well, i don't know -- i don't think it's scandalous in that someone is doing something neff air yushgs but i guess if you are looking at it from a constitutional point of view, it could be inappropriate if you are being targeted for, you know, your political views or someone's inference about your political views based on those kind of re

and we just obtained a letter from republican darril issa. the letter said the documents they have already received show senior white house officials and the president a pore to be far more personally involved in a decision than the healthcare.gov. and this comes amid outrage and showing exirs official lois lerner coordinated with the department of justice on prosecuting nonprofit groups. >> welcome, congressman, what i want to know specifically. you serve on the committee with darril issa. what do you think the documents will show? >> we requested from the department of health and human services and we found out that the white house had institutional interest in them and stuff was redacked. and that was uh-huh. this makes us look bad. and you think that the president and the senior services. and committee concerns that you raised. and we have suggested information that showed early on that the white house was actively involved and we want to know who knew what when and why we didn't work to fix this better. >> and the reaction from the white

issa that we move to higher ground.ritten, whens that man is able to walk down the aisle with his daughter, when that mother is able to see her child graduate from college, one that person lives long enough to see their first grandchild born, they will not be worried about whether a website failed. they're not going to be talking about that. they may not even know that it was the affordable care act that saved them and give them a life. all that will matter to them is they had an opportunity to live in dignity and have a moment of happiness. and as we move forward, since this is the law, by the way, that we move forward to make a lot better and not try to destroy it. only reason i mention his past efforts with regard to numerous hearings is that i have not seen in these hearings one notrt to improve the law, one. if we could move to that, then we could move to higher ground. with that i yield back. i would like to recognize the panel. please introduce your guests from maryland as well. >> this is the head of our health

chairman issa is here today. and senator mccarthy sought criminal prosecution.ut the federal court rejected senator mccarthy's legal theory. they did not waive her privilege under the fifth amendment and that she was it into told a judgment or acquital on all accounts. if today's vote was really about weighing these significant constitutional questions, we would have -- we would have held at least one hearing with experts on all sides of the debate because we do not take this lightly. and i know you do not either, plch. i knead request nine months ago. last june, but the committee has not held alingle hearing. l of today a total of 91 independence experts have come across to identify fatal flounds. they concluded they she did not have cue process protects. these are not my lawyers as the chairman had said. they include two former house council. three former spreet court clerks. and prosecutors and profess ors from across the country. significantly they also include oth democrats and republicans. > she said i quote "my face in the constitution is complete. it is

chairman darril issa a cowed the rank think member of colouding with the irs in targeting conservative groups, in particular one group and not being truthful and trying to hide it. are you suspicious that is why cumings is trying to get it to just go away. >> to make accusations to a ranking member. i will let him defend himself. when that came up in the hearing, i yielded to him so he could defend himself. staff members are involved and they get a quicker response on the democratic side than we do on the republican. >> are you not backing issa. certainly i am backing the chairman on everything he is doing. he really wants to get to the bottom of it for the american people. it is not as much that, we want to make sure the ranking member is able to bring his case before the chairman or the american people. and again, i don't want to falsely accuse him. but it a pores that staff members were involved in this early on and having direct contact with the irs and that is troubling. >> thank you so much. >> weekly jobless numbers dropping to the lowest mark since the great recession. with so

issa. >> i want to thank you for the work you've done, mr. langford, the details of these laws in healthcare.gov and in the overall legislation. i ask unanimous consent that my entire opening statement be placed in the record. >> it is important as a californian to have california representative here. the best and the worst will be seen in looking at the largest eight in the union. we often turn divisive, partisan legislation into divisive, partisan oversight. as to cartwright, mr. spear have made that clear by talking about republicans this and republicans that. i called, or authorize many of those hearings they alluded to. i am probably did it and i'm only sorry we didn't do more and sooner. ultimately, about half of america's federal spending will be related to health care, medicare, medicaid, medicaid to eligibles for our seniors and obviously the growth related to subsidizing the affordable care act. they represent the largest single bulk of the budget today, and that over than $1 trillion is an area over we have no real control over the

when there are people on the left and the right and newspaper newspaper -- >> we know that darrell issaor political mileage that he hopes to gain on behalf of the republicans. it has nothing to do about getting to the truth. in fact he even had secret meetings with the inspector general at the irs and didn't care to invite his leading democrat on the committee or other democrats to join in that meeting and in releasing that report, said don't mention the fact that the irs was looking at progressive groups as well, but only that they were looking at those on the far right. so the transparency issue goes both ways. >> it was president obama who actually said he would be the most transparent administration. here we go again, blaming the republicans. >> i'm just pointing out that the republicans -- >> you said it's political on behalf of obama. >> asking for transparency but not performing transparent acts on their own behalf. >> several e-mails came out of congressman c oourks mmings. testified on capitol hill about facing osha, fbi, atf, all kinds of things that came her way once she appl

darrell issa said that they will not talk to him. >> you mentioned better news on aca.hey have their message together. have they had their message together on the economy? >> a lot of democrats are nervous. they see 7.5 million enrollees as having neutralized the issue. there is a window to zero in and craft a strong narrative about the economy. just having pay equity and focusing on women's pay and minimum wage, that is not enough. there has to be some overarching coherent message. they're looking to the white house for that. >> they have not developed that the way they did on health care. they are focusing on the contrast. one thing you will be hearing is their tactics. they are focusing on the republicans being so focused on repealing obamacare at the expense of pay equity. that is what it will look like if republicans control both chambers. >> on another subject, there are important posts to fill. the countries have greater emotional attachment to america. how can they not fill that post for over 16 months? >> i was talking to an official this week. i asked about th

santa ro issa .77. i want to zoom in and you'll see some of the more consistent rainfall right now. increasing our fire danger and who could be hitting the 80s coming up in that fact. >>> new details in san francisco's political corruption case. we already knew about guns and money laundering. nbc bay area nanette sifted through the indictment. what else is in there? >> reporter: 50 criminal charges including conspiracy to sell stolen booze. the case builds for the government. it outlines pretty much the same charges of public corruption, drugs and weapons trafficking and money laundering as the criminal complaint the feds used last week. now there are 29 defendants and a couple more charges. a federal indictment means those defendants will not be entitled. >> reporter: among the charges the fbi says the china town bang leaders and others are accused of conspireing to sell 50 cases of stolen henessy. he was an uncover fbi agent saying they could hook him up with an arms dealer in the philippines. the associated press is reporting yee used $900 in campaign money to meet with official