istanbul. we're here at the modern. and this isn't a new piece, is it? it is from 1995. correct then in thinking that when you made the work for the biennial then, it was in the same part of the city that's now been redeveloped, and near where istanbul modern stands today? exactly. and this was created in...did you say in a depot, like a sort of old industrial building, a warehouse? it was this working harbour once. you know, ijust sat down for a while thinking and feeling the space. and then i found out that i am in the oldest entertainment district of istanbul. this red light district was there since the byzantium times, since the genoan times, you know. it never changed, you know. so you have to imagine sailors arriving at the port. these are actually, like, these are nautical ropes that you've used for the installation. but instead of sails, there's actually these ribbons which you've tied to the ropes, many, many of them, in these wonderfully pretty, pastell powder pinks, and white colours. but each of them, i'm looking at the now, is stamped with what look like init