if we let the taliban be and try to control isis-k by themselves, we have seen them engage with isis-k in traditional clashes, more conventional warfare were either groups -- where subgroups will go after isis-k when they have held positions in different areas in afghanistan. we have seen them do that, but we have not seen them secure and govern a city and pursue counterterrorism against another insurgent group in urban areas. we have not seen that yet. so their capacity to do that, we truly do not know what that is. that is a big unknown. and it has the risk of being incredibly dangerous. isis-k has a game plan to move through anti-research and consolidate territory and coerce populations and conduct of violence. and all the things it needs to do over the long run to establish that same caliphate we saw in iraq and syria, to establish a version of that in afghanistan. on the other side, what happens if over time -- let's look out a few months -- what happens over time if we are sharing intelligence with the afghan taliban, and they are sharing good intelligence or bad intelligence wit

guest: isis-k, i am sure that people have seen different acronyms for this group at this point, but this is the official branch for the islamic state that is currently operating in afghanistan. the k stands for correspondence, and historically that is a region that covers eastern iran, afghanistan, parts of pakistan and elsewhere in central asia. the group for all intensive purposes now is focused on afghanistan. lee formed in 2015 when members of the pakistani taliban, the afghani taliban and al qaeda and other members of jihadis groups coalesced around one leader, who had been nominated as the governor or top leader to oversee this branch operating in afghanistan. not long after that, they embarked on one of the most deadly campaigns in terrorism we have seen ever in the region. by 2018 there were one of the top four deadliest terror organizations on the planet. host: the taliban has been allied with al qaeda in the past, what is isis-k's relationship with al qaeda? guest: these groups are of eminently opposed to -- are very opposed to each other. there is a history where different aff

that's what's driving the issue into isis-k ranks. if the taliban concedes on ideological issues that rests driving fighters into isis-k ranks. this is a precarious time for the country and the region and people need to wake up and see how precarious that is right now. >> let me read you another view on what's going on. an opinion piece, biden didn't see the isis-k threat in afghanistan untilit was too late . he writes in there that the united states puts the taliban a potentially awkward d position where they share the same. should the united states work with the isis-k against the islamic state? there are two paths, one of which the biden administration appears to be leaning to is to cooperate with the taliban including intelligence sharing and the united states could choose to do nothing and let the taliban, theirallies and isis-k battle it out . >> my colleague highlights an important consideration which is that there are no good options. if we let the taliban control isis-k we've seen them engage in traditional classes, more conv

in the 48 hours prior to the strike, since it intelligence said point number on was bei used by isis-kers, used to facilitate your attacks. we were also receiving a significant number of reports indicating multiple avenues of attack, which were being planned simultaneously, through which isis-k would attempt to harm our forces, including with rockets suicide explosive vests, and vehicle-born explosive devices. in fact, in the 36 hours preceding the strike, our leaders on the ground, at the airport, and in the strike cell received more than 60 different pieces of intelligence leading to iinent threats, with some intelligence corroborating and some conflicting. units observe from our uav's, which were flying above kabul throughout the day. one of the most recurring aspects of intelligence was that isis-k would utilize a white we go to carella as a key element -- white toyota corolla as a key element in the next attack. we initiated an intense surveillance of the compound with as many as six reapers on the morning of 29 august. at 8:52 a.m. local time on 29 august, a white we go to coroll

those who died associated with isis-k or a direct threat to u.s. forces. i offer my condolences to family and friends of those killed. this strike was taken in the earnest belief it would prevent an imminent threat to our forces. it was a mistake. i offer my sincere apology. as the commander, i'm fully responsible for this strike and this sttragic outcome. i do want to provide the background leading up to the strike and include an explanation as to why it was reasonable certain this was legitimate strike on an imminent isis-k threat. a strike on 29 of august must be considered in the context of the situation on the ground in kabul at the airport following the isis k attack that resulted in the deaths of 13 soldiers, sailors and marines and more than 100 civilians and with the stnl body of intelligence indicating the imminence of another attack. in the 48 hours prior to the strike, sensitive intelligence indicated the compounds at point number one on the map, let's bring the map up now, please. we're going to bring this up. hopefully you have an opportunity

is a point 1 on the map, we assess associated with isis-k. in fact, less than 24 hours later, rockets will be launched. we had really good intelligence to think that point 1 is where isis was centered. that was a very good intelligence in support of that belief. now, the second part of your question about whether this is -- whether this will affect future operations. this is a self-defense strike taken under self-defense rules of engagement based on an i'ment threat to attack us. it's not the way we would strike in an ota mission going to afghanistan against isis-k targets. that won't be a self-defense strike. it will be done under different rules of engagement. we'll have more opportunity probably than we had under this extreme time pressure to take a look at the target. to use phrase that you'll be familiar, to have an opportunity to develop extended pattern of life. none of these were available given to us the urgent and pressing nature of the eminent threat to our forces. >> what does this say to you about the over-the-horizon capability t

right now, i actually think isis-k -- so isis-k is an offshoot of isis. this is an organization, the caliphate that exploded in iraq and syria, which try to proliferate chapters all around the world, and isis-k is one of the. isis-k actually at times has been hunted by the taliban, they have been hunted by pakistani military intelligence. they fundamentally believe in the global campaign. their goal is a long islamist caliphate that would cover a good portion of the earth, and governments, whether the pakistani government or the afghani government, get in the way of that, and governments that support and engage these countries, whether they are beijing or moscow or the united states, get in the way of that, so they are the enemy. but isis-k in afghanistan is not very strong. it is not a major threat to the united states. right now, i actually think they are kind of the useful idiots for the taliban. on the one hand, the taliban can use them as leverage for the united states, hey, look, you have to work with us. we are worried about this isis-k . but on th

they beley belong to isis k and were en route to the airport.o it's perfect, all the bad people were dead, all those isi k operatives, and virtually every noise organization in the country credited this account. the washington post assigned five reporters to the story the dug deep and concluded that biden's drone attack had hit an islamic state target. on television, where there's mostly no reporting at all, the just read the paper in repeated not a single person seemed very skeptical of this. >> our ability to demonstrate effective mentally that we can strike such targets, we can strike them from outside afghan borders which is a critical par of the biden plan. this over the horizon capabilit was demonstrated and was effective for it. >> you called this strike remarkable. >> this is a realization of wha president biden calls the over the horizon strategy. >> the military event today is so much more than just a single drone strike. it is a projection of power. it is a message from the united states government that even though we are leaving, we

forces were notified of a sensitive intelligence collection indicating that an isis-k cell leader in kabul was dropping off supplies. at 12: 11:00 p.m., the corolla arrived at point number four, and at least two adult male occupants exited the vehicle in front of an office building before returning to their vehicle and departing at 1:20 7 p.m., heading west and then south. at 2:00 p.m., the corolla returned to the compound at point number three. subsequently, multiple adult males were observed loading the truck of the vehicle -- the trunk of the vehicle with items assessed at the time to be explosives. before departing at 3:47 p.m. with four adult males heading north. at four: 11 p.m., the corolla returned to point number two and dropped off one adult male carrying a bag, then continued north. after driving near point number one, the corolla dropped off one adult male on the road at point number five, which was roughly 700 meters north of point number one. at 4:39 p.m., the corolla dropped off its last passenger on the road at point number six. at 4:51 p.m., the corolla arrived at po

this incident say about the reliability of future strikes. >> point one, very much associated with isis-k, less than 24 hours later, rockets would be launched against the airfield. we had good intelligence to think point one was an area where isis was centered. second part of your question about whether this will effect future oth operations, let me be clear, this was a self defense strike taken under self defense rules of engagement based on imminent threat to attack us. that is not the way we would strike in an oth mission going into afghanistan against isis-k targets. for one thing, that would not be a self defense strike, it will be done under different rules of engagement. and we would have a lot more opportunity probably than we had under this extreme time pressure to look at the target, to use a phrase you're familiar with, soak it with multiple platforms. none of these things were available to us given the urgent and pressing nature of the imminent threat to our forces. >> are you considering reparations and what does it say about the overrising capability. what are the risks invo

if we let the taliban be and try to control isis-k by themselves, we have seen them engage with isis-kl clashes, more conventional warfare were either groups -- where subgroups will go after isis-k when they have held positions in different areas in afghanistan. we have seen them do that, but we have not seen them secure and govern a city and pursue counterterrorism against another insurgent group in urban areas. we have not seen that yet. so their capacity to do that, we truly do not know what that is. at is a big unknown. and it has the risk o of being incredibly dangero -- risk of being incredibly dangerous. isis-k has a game plan to move through anti-research and consolidate territory and coerce populations and conduct of violence. and all the things it needs to do over the long run to establish that same caliphate we saw in iraq and syria, to establish a version of that in afghanistan. on the other side, what happens if over time -- let's look out a few months -- what happens over time if we are sharing intelligence with the afghan taliban, and they are sharing good intelligence o

the taliban has no love lost for isis-k. let them fight isis-k.n give them, you know, whatever intelligence we have on what we think are the proper targets. but the taliban is now the government. they have a very capable military. and they can fight isis-k on the ground in afghanistan. >> how likely do you think the taliban would work with the u.s. and vice versa? and do you -- do you have any trepidations about this withdrawal in general, leaving the country as a whole? >> i think i -- the taliban will fight isis-k. isis-k would -- wants to topple the taliban. there's no love lost between the two groups. it gets more confusing when you look at other groups, say, the remnants of al qaeda, or the haqqani network. the head of the haqqani network is actually a member of the government now. the taliban government in kabul. so, you know, it depends on what group you're targeting. some of them, taliban will cooperate and destroy. and others they won't. in terms of did this have to happen? i don't think so. you know, had we left a lot of troop presence i

based ngo for 15 years was an isis-k facilitator with expl explosives.ad to say earlier about the strike. >> the guy the biden administration drone, was he an aids worker or isis-k operative? >> the administration is reviewing that strike and i'm sure that a full assessment will be -- >> you don't know if it was an aide worker or isis-k operative? >> i can't speak to that. s >> you don't know or won't tell us? >> i don't know because we're reviewing it. >> secretary blinken under tough grilling from senator rand paul. the pentagon says it's investigating but insists the strike was based on good intelligence. >> thank you very much for the investigation. >>> joining us now to discuss this and more we have congressman of california. he's a senior member of the house armed services committee. wit can we start with the investigation into the drone strike. do you believe the pentagon and the military version of events? do you think they are being truthful? >> that's what we're going to investigate. congress is investigating it and the intelligence community.

he said that _ been near and isis k compound.iss interpreted and misunderstood what looked to them _ and misunderstood what looked to them like — and misunderstood what looked to them like loading explosives into them like loading explosives into the boot— them like loading explosives into the boot of the car. he says that turns _ the boot of the car. he says that turns out — the boot of the car. he says that turns out to _ the boot of the car. he says that turns out to have been bottles of water _ turns out to have been bottles of water going into the blue of the car rather— water going into the blue of the car rather than — water going into the blue of the car rather than bombs. and he said that the interpretation and the military after the — the interpretation and the military after the missile strike the car came — after the missile strike the car came a — after the missile strike the car came a secondary explosion which they had _ came a secondary explosion which they had taken his proof that there had been a — they had take

we're talking about whether we'd work with the taliban to deal with isis-k, we worked with the iranians to deal with isis. there are times you work with somebody who is mostly an adversary if you do have something in common. that's been american foreign policy for decades, is it not? >> it is, chuck. i think in the counterterrorism world you sometimes do have strange bed fellows. but the taliban really hasn't cut its ties with al qaeda and connections with the network that are deep and enduring a rival to isis-k but ideologically aligned and you saw them grappling with this on the stage and the intelligence community is trying to grapple with what do we do next? what is the aftermath not only what is the nature of the taliban but how do we treat them now moving forward? designated terrorist group by law, by u.s., u.n. sanctions. so that has to be contended with. and you've got the realities on the ground that this is a group that hasn't really changed its strikes. certainly isn't welcoming of western liberalism and human rights. so, i think there's going to be challenges here and i thin

so this is a huge problem because of that fluidity that runs from the hollow bon to isis k. all right, how long the harding? thank you or just want to bring you some of the developments now from afghanistan and the you unsecure. the un security council is extended, it's monday to mission and i've gone on for another 6 months now that vote was passed. inanimate lea, a fat old on a temporary extension, given the uncertainty in the countries since the taliban takeover security council, so called on the taliban to create an inclusive and representative government. and then autonomy is ordered. male students between the ages of 11 and 19 as well as male teachers back to school from saturday. but the order from the education ministry did not include girls raising ongoing concerns about the restrictions on women. since taking over since taking power loss along the telephone is allowed some primary age girls to resume their classes. and female students have also been allowed back to universities. but lecture rooms have been segregated. taliban has previously said the security situat

sensitive intelligence, indicated that the compound at point number one on the map was being used by isis k players used to facilitate future attacks. we were also receiving a significant number of reports indicating multiple avenues of attack, which were being planned simultaneously to which isis kay would attempt to harm our forces. including with rockets, suicide explosive, this in vehicle borne, improvised explosive devices. in fact, in the 36 hours proceeding, the strike our leaders on the ground at the airport and in the strike cell received more than 60 different pieces of intelligence related to imminent threats. with some intelligence corroborating in some conflict with events observed from are you a these which were flying about cobble throughout the day? one of the most recurring aspects of the intelligence was it isis. k would utilize a white toyota corolla as a key element in the next attack. because the compound that point number one was our strongest lead for the series of image attacks. we initiated an intense surveillance of the compound with as many as 6 am to 9 reapers on

there is isis-k there.telligence on terrorism i supported the president taking out isis-k, the leaders. i think we have to be vigilant. we have to reserve the right to strike if there is any resurgence of any groups that threaten american troops or american interests and the taliban ought to know that. they ought to know there is bipartisan consensus in congress to authorize that strike if we feel any threat to the homeland or our interests. neil: on a personal, political style, congressman, the president has been hugely criticized on both sides for having handled, detached matter in the beginning, refusing to talk much about it, obviously pivoting to other issues he thought more favorable but that he botched it that is something that is going to linger with him for a while. does that worry you? >> ultimately the president will get credit for withdrawing us from a 20-year war. i think people understand that he is empathetic, that he understands the enormous toll that this puts on our military men and women

or a house that they are expected to be used by isys k?— be used by isys k?e interviewed his - say but we interviewed his colleagues and we visited some of the colleagues in place that he visited that day and they insisted that this colleague that they have known since 2006 was not connected to isys comic is actually hoping to be resettled as refugee in the united states and had an active case of being sponsored by his company. later that day, there were rockets fired at the airport from a car that looked quite similar, it was a possible that they confuse the two vehicles? it possible that they confuse the two vehicles? . , possible that they confuse the two vehicles? ., , ., ., vehicles? it was the following mornin: vehicles? it was the following morning and _ vehicles? it was the following morning and certainly - vehicles? it was the following morning and certainly is - vehicles? it was the following i morning and certainly is possible but every second car in kabul is a toyota corolla and a lot of them are white and so it is very common vehicle. ., ., ., ,

you have intel that isis-k is plotting another attack and a military spots a vehicle that you believe is full of carrying explosives, and we take the car out with a doan strike, and reports say as many as 10 civilians may have been killed. because of the urgent threat environment at the time in the preliminary assessments, does it looks like we may have rushed, relaxed or waived altogether the checks and balances we do before a strike like that? >> as we always do on all of these things we initiate the investigation, and we are res reviewing all the video. we had very good intelligence that isis-k was preparing a specific type of vehicle at a specific type location. we monitored that through various means and all of the engagemen engagement criteria was being met and we took a strike. that we did. secondly, we know there were secondary explosions. because there were secondary explosions there's a reasonable conclusion to be made that there was explosives in that vehicle, and at least one of those vehicle that were killed was an isis facilitator. were there others killed? yes. who they

>> the strikes that killed isis-k terrorists? >> and the possibility of more. said that this is not over. >> well, if anybody wants to convey they don't think we should kill isis-k terrorists and kill the people who killed 13 members of our military, then the president's happy to have that debate. go ahead. >> sackie was talking about multiple drone strikes, including one from august 27th, which is said to have killed isis-k militants. she went on to say this. >> i will say that the united states takes the threat of civilian casualties seriously. we do everything we can to prevent civilian casualties. that will continue. >> a week later, multiple news outlets including cnn reported the driver of the car that was targeted was not a terrorist. he was zemari ahmadi. the intelligence linked him to potential isis plotting, much of it was caught by surveillance camera with colleagues describing it as innocent, filling plastic containers with water, because the running water was off at this house. but when the pentagon was asked about the attack, again -- >> ten days

and isis k operatives interspersed with innocent civilians.t this right because it depends on the quality of the intelligence we collect and how we analyze it. if we don't analyze it correctly, then we risk making mistakes like this. it's a very, very dangerous, very slippery slope to be on. >> colonel, what would you say to those allies in afghanistan or the united states who have risked so much in advancing america's interests in that country and also to allies in the region where being friendly with the united states is often really putting yourself at risk? >> yeah, that's -- this is one of the big vulnerabilities that we have. we have to treat these allies exceedingly well. they have risked everything. they're continuing to risk everything because of their service to the united states. there are many of them that are still waiting to get out of afghanistan and trying to find ways to do that and there's no discernible help from the u.s. government in many cases to make that happen and that needs to change. we need to help these people. we

we do need to remember that just days before, an isis-k suicide bomber had killed 13 u.s.vice members and more than 170 afghans at abby gate at the airport. the u.s. had intelligence of an imminent and credible threat and were understandably on high alert. but, rosemary, from what we have established, there are serious doubts as to whether ahmadi, a father of seven, highly respected worker who worked for this u.s.-based ngo for 15 years, feeding the poor, was, as the u.s. climbs, an isis-k facilitator with suspected explosive material in his car for an imminent attack. and, rosemary, samadi was not the only one killed. according to the extended family who live together in this compound, nine other family members died including seven children, three of whom were toddlers. we've seen the distressing footage of the charred remains of what was left of the bodies, parents trying to recognize a hand, a foot, an ear, to work out which body part belonged to their child. the pentagon says an investigation is under way, but maintains the strike was based on good intelligence and tha

they claim that they track this vehicle from a presumed isis compound, isis, k. compound, near capital, all the way to this residential district. just 3 kilometers away from capital international airport. where, of course, at the time of frantic evacuation was due on the way very frantic and with people's nerves frayed because everybody back when feared that there would be another terror attack. and the united states says that they surveilled this vehicle as it arrived in this residential neighborhood. they allegedly allegedly, according to witnesses, must have seen all the kids around the car as well as the, the owner of the man they believe, to be a nice suspect. carrying containers which turned out to be empty water containers to and from his car and what we had heard and up until now is a lot of mumbling and diversion on behalf of the state department. the pentagon, us grilled by senators and congressmen alike about this as striking about the overwhelming evidence that it had gone again terribly wrong. make no mistake. no military on the face of the earth works harder to avoid civi

isis-k is a different thing as you know. the taliban and isis-k are sworn enemies. since the emergence of isis-k the fight has been between the taliban and isis-k with the taliban taking most of the territory isis-k sought to hold in afghanistan. less whether they have the will to deal with isis-k and more weather they have the capacity. >> given that response i know that previously the position of the administration and the state department was that the 2001 aumf no longer played a role of significance. given the developments in afghanistan and the taliban's ongoing collaboration with and sympathy with al qaeda and the haqqani network and like-minded groups, is it not appropriate for the state department to revisit your recommendation that we abandon the 2001 aumf? >> i think we need to look to make sure we have all the authorities that we would need for any potential contingency including the reemergence as a threat of al qaeda or the further emergence of isis-k as an outwardly directed threat. if we don't have those authorities we should get them. whether it mean

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nothing to make isis pay for the death of those american service members at the cobbler airport. isis k. lived in this house in this house with these children, members of isis. stupid thought without any proof, without any investigation, they attacked us and killed our children, and we will never forgive. ah, our entire families. in short, it's being so painful for us mentally. we are not in a stable condition where the women are dead silent. they don't speak tomorrow, we left our devastated homes and now live in my sister's place, so painful to visit it. because we could see your children dying there. the people accusing us of having contact with this law, mac state, the americans who colemander family seeing we've been preparing an attack on them, their complete and utter liars, ah. ringback ah, after the incident, noah came here to investigate. nobody asked us what happened to your new one help. ready no one came here to morally support us. this is not a mistake of america, this is a crime. we've lost her children. the count returned to us. mr. owners should be restored by us for inv

capacity to strike isis-k terror targets.ident biden was briefed about this investigation earlier today before leaving for a week long -- a weekend long vacation at one of his delaware beach homes, but the white house has since not said a single word about this strike in the hours since. we have been awaiting a statement from the president, but as of this moment, it is still not yet arrived. wolf? >> reporter: jeff, thank you very much. let's go to afghanistan right now. our international editor nic robertson is on the ground in kabul for us tonight. what is the likely reaction from the new regime over there led by the taliban? >> reporter: yeah, nothing so far, wolf. and i don't think we would expect it in the middle of the night, but this was friday here. it was friday prayers. the main sermon at the mosque behind me, we could hear it being broadcast outside to the people on the streets outside. the message was very, very clear. the message was the reason that this country is in such a difficult situation economically and e

the president said we're not done with isis-k. senator cain before the taliban takeover was talking about working toward a new superseding aumf. is this something the white house is interested in working on so that isis-k is mentioned in a authorization of use of force? >> we said we're interested in working with senator kaine on that. that continues. isis-k attacked and killed 13 members of our armed forces. we have every right, serve defense, to continue to go after isis-k and the president has made clear that's what he wants the military to do. >> so future strikes on isis-k will be in made with self-defense? >> these are authorities the military already has. we're open to and look forward to working with senator kaine and others in congress that are looking to update the 20-year-old aumf. >> two questions. there's a bill in congress called the women's health protection act that would protect abortion access from state laws like the one in texas. doesn't biden support that? >> i'd have to look at the specifics of the law. codif

we're not associated with the tara group isis k. i am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike. moreover, we now assist it. it is unlikely that the vehicle and those who died were associated with us or were a direct threat to us forces. there was a mistake, and i offer my sincere apology. america's last drop strike officially of the, of the afghan war, turned into a terrible tragedy where we heard them try to justify these as strike say that they saw him this vehicle in year and isis compound that they saw him looting containers, which turned out to be water containers into his god, we found that very quickly that what the united states said and what people were reporting on the ground, the witnesses, and the body count that they didn't fit with the american narrative. the guy, the biden administration drone, was he an aide worker or an isis k offered if the administration is, of course, reviewing that, that strike. and i'm sure that a full assessment will be, will

they've had to move house because of these links to the terrorist network isis-k.inancially supported the entire family. his brothers used to work for the former afghan government and military. they are now unemployed in taliban-controlled afghanistan. i think it's really important to note that he threw his company, this california's based ngo and had applied for a p-2 visa to the united states just days before the drone strike. this is a man who wanted to flee afghanistan and start a new life. >> anna coren with a very sobering investigation, thank you so much for that, appreciate it. >>> one of the senators who questioned senator blinken earlier today is here to respond to that report that you just saw from anna coren. that's next. stay with us. g this. an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today for yo

and to isis-k, we are not done with you yet. as commander-in-chief, i firmly believe the best path to guard our safety and our security lies in a tough, unforgiving, targeted, precise strategy that goes after terror where it is today, not where it was two decades ago. that's what in our national interest. and here's the critical thing to understand. the world is changing. we're engaged in a serious competition with china. we're dealing with the challenges on multiple fronts with russia. we're confronted with cyber attacks and nuclear pleura version. -- proliferation. to meet these new challenges in a competition for the 21st century. and we can do both. fight terrorism, and take on new threats that are here now, and will continue to be here in the future. and there's nothing china or russia would rather have, would want more, than this competition, the united states to be bogged down for another decade in afghanistan. as we turn the page on the foreign policy that has guided our nation for the last two decades, we have got to le

there's a second reason, though, and that was the threat from isis-k. the taliban in many cases are an enemy of isis. they fought them pretty tough in eastern afghanistan for several years. so they did not want an attack on the kabul airport any more than the united states did. but there is one big incentive that the taliban has going forward to potentially continue some sort of diplomatic effort with the united states, and that's economic. it's money. the afghan government has been heavily reliant on foreign money for years now. if the taliban are going to take over that country, they're going to need that foreign money if they want to keep the country afloat. that is the one piece of leverage the u.s. has. each side has some leverage over the other one. >> it is always about money. courtney, raf, peter, thank you. >>> i want to bring in congressman moulton, a marine veteran and member of the armed services committee. he traveled to kabul last week and saw the evacuation and all the chaos firsthand. i want to start with the 100 to 200 americans we keep

and that this house had no indication of any kind of isis-k connection.se were actually people who would be targets of isis-k, because they had worked with the u.s. and nato for years. in fact, zammarai had been working for years with ngos the idea that this people were connected with isis-k was ridiculous. >> you attended the funeral of all of those children. it must have been heartbreaking. and the certainty with which the military announced this was a, quote, righteous strike. and there were no secondary casualties and the secondary explosions and the car, it all seems so hollow. are you surprised how circumstantial the so-called intelligence was that was relied upon to launch a deadly attack like this? >> of course. mostly the fact they said there was evidence there was a white corolla. if you spent any time in kabul, that's like saying someone with brown hair should be targeted. it's ridiculous to say that. every other car in kabul is a corolla. the fact that you say it's a white corolla means nothing. >> what does this suggest for the availability f

we also know that al qaeda and isis-k have reestablished a presence within the country. even before the u.s. withdrew isis-k claimed credit for a suicide bombing that took the lives of 13 service members on august 23. secretary austin, is it true the suicide bomber who attacked the kabul airport on august 23 was a c.i.a. prisoner at the bagram air base who the taliban released after biden's administration left bagram in july? >> let me just say a couple of things. first on why the president selected me or nominated me to be his secretary of defense, you would have to certainly go back to the president and ask him specifically why he did that. but it wasn't i'm sure solely based upon my oversight of the evacuation of iraq. i would point there is a government in iraq right now that is holding elections. the united states military is in iraq. >> could you answer my question? was suicide bomber -- >> i'll take your question for the record. >> thank you, mr. chair. i don't see eye-to-eye with many generals and certainly general milley and i have had disagreements. i think wha

how can you tell the difference between taliban elements and isis-k, assuming these are two neat categories that can be stink wished and everybody in the middle in the gray zone? that poses a problem. ago, isis is waiting for the taliban to engage in more and more implemented and international engagements as to make the case that they have given up on the cause. there is already chatter within the taliban circles as to the move to meet with the director of the cia. in this situation, the taliban are constrained to the consent in which they can openly align or cooperate with the u.s.. the more they do that, more the signal goes to their fighters that they have given up on the cause. isis wants to capitalize on that and bring within its context, these various disillusioned fighters and elements. this is a huge problem because of that fluidity that runs from the taliban to isis-k. >> thank you. i just want to bring you more developments now from afghanistan. the un security council has extended its mandate of mission in afghanistan for another six months. that was passed unanimously. they sett

they claim that the vehicle visited a comp out associated with isis k. that is isis affiliate here. and i've got a son and that had returned to an area 3 kilometers away from a couple airport where the evacuation was underway. and that is when they decided to pull the trigger to go forward with this drone truck. and they must have seen the numerous children playing around in the cars as reported by their families at the time. nevertheless, the pet god says the, the intelligence was solid and they had no choice. but to go on with this strike. now they say this, sorry, i am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including up to 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike. moreover, we now assume that it is unlikely that the vehicle and those who died were associated with ices cake or were a direct threat to us forces. there was a mistake, and i offer my sincere apology. the pentagon says there will be no disciplinary measures going. going into the future, but they will investigate further this particular job. so i can try to learn each lesson. they say they will be more car

horrific conclusion to the investigation into the pentagon's retaliatory drone strike against isis k on august 29th in kabul intended for terrorists who killed 13 american sailors, soldiers and marines. instead the pentagon admitting 10 civilians were killed, 7 of them children. none of the casualties were isis extremists, but it was a mistake and i offer my sincere apology. >> as the combatant commander. i'm fully responsible for the strike in this tragic outcome. the centcom commanders apology. a stark change from the confidence. general milley expressed earlier this month. yes, there are others killed who they are, we don't know. but at this point we think that the procedures were correctly fallen and it's a right to strike the victims were family members of a man, secretary of defense lloyd austin calls mister ahmadi. in a statement, the secretary is sharing his deepest sympathies stating mister mahdi was just as innocent. a victim, as were the others. tragically killed austin now calling for another investigation to determine the degree to which accountability measures need to b

you had intel that isis-k was plotting another attack, the military spots a vehicle we believe is full of -- carrying explosives, we take this car out with a drone strike and reports now say that we may have -- the ten civilians, as many as ten civilians may have been killed. because of the urgent threat environment at the time, these preliminary assessments, is that the case that we may have rushed, relaxed, or waived altogether some of the normal checks and balances we do before a strike like that? >> a couple things, as we always do on all of these things, we initiate an investigation. we are analyzing the video and all of that. what do we know, what do we think, that sort of thing, at the time -- and i think it's still valid -- we had very good intelligence that isis-k was preparing a specific type vehicle at a specific type of location. we monitored that through various means. and all of the engagement criteria was being met, we went through the same level of vigor that we have done for years. and we went with the strike. we knew there were secondary explosions. because there were

they claim that the vehicle visited a compound associated with isis k, that is isis affiliate here. and i've got a son and that had returned to an area 3 kilometers away from a couple airport where the evacuation was under way. and that is when they decided to pull the trigger to go forward with this drone truck. and they must have seen the numerous children playing around the cars as reported by their families at the time. nevertheless, the pet god says the, the intelligence was taller than they had no choice. but to go on with this strike . now they say they're sorry we, we apologize and we will endeavour to learn from this horrible mistake. and to that end, he has directed a thorough review of the investigation just completed by us central command. the paragon says there will be no disciplinary measures going. going into the future, but they will investigate further this particular job. so i can try to learn each lesson. they say they will be more careful with the, with future drone strikes. but that is not to say that they will, that they will stop targeting isis here and have g

the taliban released thousands of isis-k prisoners. my guess is that whatever hostility there is between these groups, it will not last long. we know that these weapons, some of them are being sent to iran. other weapons will be shipped and sold to china and russia. these weapons will be used to stage future terrorist attacks. debra, based on what happened in afghanistan, is it september 10 again for america? debra: absolutely. i cannot tell you how it grieves me to go to this memorial on saturday knowing that we are in much more danger today then we were the night before september 11 happened. because we have given up so much, including territory. we do not have an american presence on the ground. afghanistan is a very big country. we have lost -- president biden keeps talking about over the horizon capabilities. a geospatial person says is over the horizon, over the horizon. we are very far away. intel is the key. that is very problematic. we have also weakened a relationship with our nato partners. we have banded them. president bid