[laughter] but they actually say the boy mayor out in ithaca. at least they remember ithaca and remember me. they remember because it was unusual. we were asking for money. it wasn't unusual. what was unusual was that the person was asking a little bit younger than they were used to. it keeps us fresh in their minds. particularly in a state or d.c. the same is true. you don't have twenty or thirty years in political connections. you have haven't been donating to campaigns or active in other races in those times. that can be a detriment. i think you just try to play your strength, as much as possible, and our strength part of my strength when it comes to advocacy of the city is being unique. >> yeah. i completely agree with that. and, you know, so maybe before i got elected you live in holyoke i live there. you have the young mayor in holyoke. it does a lot in a superficial way to change the image of the city. overnight which i think positive attention given on the city in the high exec ticks for me as a individual. whether i like it or not and f

odysseus' for ulysses knows all kinds of things which center around surviving and getting home to ithaca and penelope. these great characters summarized a huge amount of human character through all time it seems to me. >> host: one of your questioners in the tenth hole little earlier talked-about history moving faster. i would like you to expand on that in case people didn't hear that and also is our system set up that diplomat such as george f. kennan can develop today? >> guest: the second part first. i have done a couple talk that the state department since the book came out and are always get that question. could kennan have arisen in the current state department? i think it is unlikely. it is not anybody's fault but the state department is now 20 times bigger than it was. the state department than could fit into what is now the eisenhower executive office building. you see the state may be building. all three departments sitting in that building. that tells you something. they all knew each other. they were a community and the state department of the 1920s and the 1930s showed admir

particularly, you bring a breath of fresh air from ithaca, new york.ll: there you go. that's not cornell though. >> no. we're not the big red. we're the other school on the other hill in that town. >> we like it for the college as well. >> thank you. >> bill: dan alumnus of ithaca college. >> so you have a lot to live up to sir. [ laughter ] >> i'll do my best. >> bill: we're all part of 1470 a.m., wnyy. many good visits up there to the good people at wnyy. nice to have you in studio. with our regular team, peter ogborn and dan henning. phil backert on the phones and cyprian bowlding on video cameras this morning. president obama was out on the road yesterday having a lot of fun with some of the spillover from the debate. one of the -- you may remember from the debate, talking about energy where mitt romney was accusing president obama of not being supportive enough of coal and president obama said ain't that funny! when you were governor of massachusetts, you stood in front of a coal plant and said we're going to shut down this plant because it kills

[laughter] they actually say the boy mayor in ithaca. but they remember the meeting because it's a bit unusual. what was unusual about it is the person that was asking is younger than you are used to sew it gives a special not particularly when they are governing the whole state or in d.c. the same is true. but yes when you don't have 20 or 30 years of political connection, you haven't been donating to campaign for haven't been active in other races of this time i could you just try to play to your strength and part of my strength when it comes to the average strength of the city as being unique. >> i completely agree with let and maybe before i got elected, you live in holyoke? why do live in holyoke? o you have that young a year in holyoke to read it changes the view of the city overnight which the positive attention given to the city and high expectation for me as an individual of whether i like it or not and for the city, and i think the political adversaries or people who didn't vote for me or in elective office that i may not be th

i am the mayor of ithaca. i don't understand. iamb sub69 was elected.d something like that happen? [laughter] i think that is actually the question i get the most often. how do they do it? i can show you really what people are actually want to know is what would convince you to run for mayor? what would make you think that you would even have a shot? part of it is coming from where i came from in my story, becoming elected mayor is not the least likely part of my own story. i was born and raised the beginning part of my life into poverty and homelessness. my mom raised the four of us children under pretty tough conditions and she was able to get all four of us to college. i made it to cornell university. getting there you believe anything can happen you believe in that sort of american dream that anybody who works hard can accomplish great things. so with that dilution in mind, when i was a junior, i was working with young people and tutoring and i was -- you will have to excuse me if i'm out of wrath. i got dropped off in the wrong part of town so i go

ithaca, new york, shannon, independent line. caller: good morning. my sister recently balked on home. she's 34. i was turned down for a home loan. i am 30. it was very depressing for me to be turned down. i was happy for my sister. as far as the lady that called earlier, talking about bill clinton, my sister pipa and other job and got her home and that's a good thing. sometimes maybe it hurts the financial situation, but it motivates people. if you can motivate a person like that and to see how happy my sister is and working hard, don't you think that helps the economy? guest: there's no question home ownership has been a goal that has been important to americans, of growing importance over the last 50 or 60 years. there's no question home ownership gives people a stake in their community and it is something people work hard to unseat. so i completely agree with you. the economy is helped by all housing development and all housing exchange, gold rental and ownership, so it is a critical part of our economy and one of the reasons our economy is not co