for some, that had been in ithaca, new york.nt to the urinal and in front of the urinal there was a sign for environmental justice. it just never stops. greg: did it because you off? [laughter] i still got it. even with my head injury. >> i'm pretty sure it's the head injury that did that. these people want to suck the life and fun out of it when one is happy or successful and if anyone is different because they all want is dumbed down in this conformist nonsense and we have to fight it. greg, it is our job. greg: it is retires, i'm trying to figure out what do people our age on to the stuff do they do for fun? do they pull? [inaudible conversations] greg: we're both entering our 3- >> it's black history month and the fact that she was the best actress for that part, shame on them. so what you're gonna put -- if that's the reason why you took her out because of the color, shame on you. whoever is pulling no shoes i would if they were like work cutting the other big white guy because these two were white i wouldn't do it. i'm say

london: frederick douglass in a small town of ithaca, new york -- diane: that same day, across town, the reginald f. lewis museum was in full-on 200th anniversary celebration mode. london: look at him, the way he stares. diane: london ladd, an illustrator and fan of the abolitionist, shared stories and lessons on creating personal visions of the man who stirred many into action. london: all right. make sure you got your drawing stuff. you got your douglass pictures? what else did you like about douglass' facial features? you like the part in his hair? diane: boy scout troop 7077 out of prince george's county, maryland, drank in ladd's words, which blended with what they were already learning in the museum. >> look at that one. >> this one helped him spell. diane: do you think frederick douglass is important in american history? noah: i say yes because he tried to stop slavery and he was just trying to change the world or change america. i hope that, like, racism will stop. diane: and perhaps that hope for the future is frederick douglass' greatest legacy. for "matter of fact," in bal

washington. , t kill, oklahoma, hawaii back to oklahoma, ithaca, new york. and i went to cornell because i got free tuition. and i guess that was it. and i met my husband again. interviewer: one of the questions i always ask people who live through world war ii, and i'm sure you'll have an interesting take on it, being a daughter of an army officer, what do you remember about the day pearl harbor was attacked, december 7, 1941? katherine: well, we had all een fox hunting. we went to a movie and suddenly we were told -- and we had just left hawaii. and really really it was unbelievable time. interviewer: what did it mean to your parents your dad was in the army? katherine: my father was just -- we were d that stationed and they came over koligkolig pass and my father was very surprised -- we were surprised. interviewer: both your fathers and brother graduated from west point so west point has been a part of your life for a long time. katherine: a long time. interviewer: can you describe your childhood impression of what west point was? katherine: well, it was

. >> ithaca, new york. and i went to cornell because i got free tuition. >> mmm-hmm. >> and i guess that was it. and i met my husband. >> okay. >> again. >> well, we'll get to that in a second, ma'am, but one of the questions i always ask people who live through world war ii, and i'm sure you're going to have an interesting take on it being the daughter of an army officer, what do you remember about the day pearl harbor was attacked, december 7th, 1941? >> well, we had all been fox hunting. >> mmm-hmm. >> and they -- we went to -- we went to a movie, and suddenly we were told that -- and we had just left hawaii. so it was really -- it was just an unbelievable moment in one's life. >> sure. what did your -- what did that event mean to your parents, since your dad was in the army? >> well, you just didn't know. i mean, my father, i know was just very surprised that they -- we were stationed up in schofield and they came over the pass, and i think my father was very surprised that -- we were surprised -- >> su