think it's rlly important immigration works is ithere's any incentiv any reward for bad behavior, thisurs it on. we need to send an unequivocal, benefits. cheryl: but the timing of all this has gone the more complicated, nick, just to be fair. if you look at immigration, daca started in 2012 under president obama. if you look at the numbers since then, there have been 120,000 texans affected by this program. still the texas state attorney general says they will sue, they will go after the federal government as early as next week if they don't end the program. this is a very heated debate, if you will. >> look, it is heated. there are lots of things to consider, cheryl. no one is saying there's not a multitude of views and factors involved in all of this. the economy, of course, is going to be impacted, but at the end of the day, i think there is a larger issue at stake here, and that issue is america is a nation of laws, that without borders we don't have a country and something that kind of transcends all of the factors, all of the things that are influenced is. that there's nothing m