>> i think that this is an institution buthat judges itsel. and that your conscience, each member's conscience, and the variables that reflect on this institution may be considered as you see fit. obviously, ideally, with the charges that have been found, ideal with the proceedings and based solely on those charges and what was found, it is my recommendation for of censure. >> in the history of this institution, has a member ever been disciplined for such a large number of violations as in this case? what is the case history? ink my recollection is that there were eight -- charles wilson -- eight counts. >> that is the most you are aware of. >> yes. >> to other members have questions or wish to be heard? -- do other members have questions or wish to be heard? >> on the question of not participating, i would like to respond. >> if i could, mr. rangel, if we could ask the questions and i would note before recognizing mr. harper that the chair did note during a hearing that the responder was not under our rules required to participate. >> but he