many itu member states including the u.s. have shown they understand the value of the internet and its unique multi-stakeholder model. those delegates are in a critical position to advance an agenda at wict that respects the internet and its global contributions continuing to support the pro-competitive policies that have been so successful since the itrs were first negotiated in 1988. working with allies from around the globe the united states government has an opportunity to help chart a productive course forward at wict. and to ensure that the value of the multi-stakeholder model and light touch regulatory approach are highlighted. we're ready to stand for this and thank you very much for this opportunity. >> thank you for your testimony. we'll go into questions now. and i want to go straight to you. you mentioned in your testimony there are other parts of the united nations that have activities concerning internet governance, and if the itu meeting is not the only place where this is being discussed, what other things are

itu. now, more specifically, the issues we're going to be discussing today will likely arise in the context of a particular itu-sponsored conference called wicket 2012 which will take place this december in dubai. now i didn't say wicked as in wicked witch, but wict which stands for the world conference on international communications. so there have been concerns expressed. and fcc commission er mcdowell was one of the early expressers of concerns that some countries might try to use the wict conference to amend the telecommunications regulations in ways that fundamentally altar the current multistakeholder bottoms up privatized governance model that many of us would say has worked really well. the concern is that a new regime would be adopted that would confer more intergovernmental control over aspects of the internet and the way that it functions today. now i'm not going to say any more about the particulars of the potential changes because i don't want to steal any thunder from the dis

and in that sense, a tip of the hat to itu-d for that work. at google we found many opportunities in the private sector to help expand access around the world. we take our equipment which we don't need and we donate it to organizations like the network start-up resources center at the university of oregon. they repurpose that equipment and deliver it to people especially in the southern hemisphere, then they train them and get books and documentation from tim o'reilly's publications and they set them up to actually build and operate pieces of the internet, which now get connected together to the rest of the global system. there are endless opportunities here for the private sector to engage. anything that you and the committee can do to help make that easier to do would be most helpful. legislation that makes it easier for us to repurpose equipment and to do training overseas would be very, very helpful. just to advocate for that would be a good thing. >> thank you. i'm out of time. >> we want to thank you for appearing. i would just end by sa

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this is not an issue of the itu secretariat. with regard to the strategies, i think the strategies have been already adopted by the current group of. that is, it is very important to be clear. one of the problems you always have in international negotiations is to find fuzzy language to cover up. one of the keys because of the importance of the issue and because of the implications of the issue for the over 2 million users of the internet worldwide is to be very clear as to what is the u.s. is interested in and willing to discuss and negotiate. of which there are many things. those areas which are red lines, those things for which we will not agree. it is not a question of finding the precise language. it is yes. it is no. it is very binding. . and the building of coalitions is obvious and important and i am confident we can do that. >> i appreciate your answers. we will not go to the gentleman from massachusetts. the >> thank you, mr. chairman. which countries are you most concerned about in terms of their agenda? >> as we hear

that is why sometimes today we may be referring to the itu or the u.n., the parent body of the itu.ssues we will be discussing will likely rise in the context of a particular itu-sponsored conference that will take place this december in dubai. i did not say wicked as in wicked witch. witc stands for the world conference on international communications. there have been concerns expressed. the commissioner was one of the early express service of concerns, but some countries may try to use it to amend the international telecommunications regulations in ways that fundamentally alter the current multi-stakeholder bottoms up, privatized internet governance model that many of us would say has worked really well. regimecern a neis a new would be adopted that would confirm or intra-governmental control over aspects of the internet and the way it functions today. i will not say more about the particulars of the potential changes because i do not want to steal any thunder from the distinguished group of panelists we have today. i will only say this. apart from the economic and social benefits

this is not a dish to -- an issue for the itu. the strategies have been adopted by the current group. it is very important to be clear, one of the problems and one of the operas and its use we have had is to find fuzzy language to cover up. the importance of the issue and because of the implications of the issue is to be very clear as to what it is the u.s. is interested and willing to discuss. those areas are red lines. things for which we will not agree. it is yes, it is no, it is very very by mary. the building of the coalition's as we discussed in the first panel is obvious and important and i am confident we will be able to do that. >> which countries are you most concerned about in terms of their agenda? >> as we heard earlier, the ones that are most visible are russia and china that have the names on a number of proposals. others have come forward surprise and i. the others are the ones you would normally expect we hear from other repressive regimes, even those in saudi arabia. those who are threatened by openness and freed

the itu has many different conferences.t to make sure everybody listening understands this is not just about this december, this is just the latest been yet in this drama. we have to -- the v theignette. -- the latest vignette. >> thank you, i recognize myself for questions. mr. upton was supposed to be next, but since he is not here, i will take his time. i am trying to get more up to speed. i am concerned about the secretary general and his relationship with russia and vladimir putin, and couple that relationship with putin's comments where he is very blunt about his desires to regulate the internet and take control of the internet. so i ask you, is that an unfounded concern, or fear that i have of this relationship when the secretary general of the itu has this relationship. isn't unfounded? is the relationship of concern? what steps are we taking to be able to counterbalance that relationship? >> my view is that the secretary-general is, in fact, very effective and honorable international civil servant, elected to this

putin that he will represent the russian federation and the itu. is that a concern that he seems to be fluent in russian, and staff as he is his comrade -- and says he is his comment? -- comrade? >> ok. i guess that is for dick or commissioner -- anyone want to respond? >> the secretary general from mali was first elected as head of the development bureau in 1998 and subsequently in eight years was elected to secretary general, and was reelected in 2010 in guadalajara. he is of the generation of african leaders, many of whom did study in the soviet union. he does speak russian. he claims it is not fluent, but it is sufficient for him to earn a ph.d. out of moscow state university. he met his wife in russia who is also from mali, but as he points out, and i think it is important in this case, all peoples biographies are complicated -- he spent 12 years of his life in the united states and two of his children are americans. he spent 12 years as an engineer. beyond that, i will let him speak to his own biography. >> ok. that sounds like good advice fr

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authority over the net, ipu officials have publicly declared that the itu does not intend to regulate light touch variety. but which is it? it is not possible to insulate the internet from new rules while also establishing a light touch regulatory regime. either a new legal paradigm will emerge in december or it won't. the choice is binary. additionally as a threshold matter it is curious that iq officials have been opining on the outcome of the treaty negotiations. the i.t. member states determined to save anymore rules, not i.t. leadership or staff. remain hopeful that the diplomatic process will not be subverted in this regard. as a matter process and substance, patience and persistence, incrementalism is the net's most dangerous enemy and incrementalism is the tactical hallmark of many countries pushing the pro-is in member states have been discussing intellectual phone numbering crisis. it seems that the world may be running out of phone numbers over which the i.t. does have some jurisdiction. today many phone numbers are used for voice-over internet protocol services such as sky

first of all, the itu, through the development organization, has actually contributed to the growth of the net. i'm a member of the broadband commission that seeks to find ways to expand access to the internet all around the world, and in that sense, i tip the hat to itud for that work. at google, we found many opportunities in the private sector to help expand access around the world. we take our equipment that we don't need anymore, and donate it to organizations like the national network startup research center at the university of oregon, and they repurpose the equipment, deliver to people, especially in the southern hemisphere, and then they train them and get books and documentation from tim o'riley's publications and they set them up to build pieces of the interpret that get connected into the global system. there's endless opportunities here for the private sector to engage. anything that you and the committee can do to help make that easier to do would be most helpful. legislation that makes it easier for us to repurpose equipment and do training overseas would be very, very h

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you are% over -- you are forever supporting to the itu support funds, and look at any other kind product, people are supporting the product to what are they doing? they're making independent voluntary marketplace analysis and judgments about what to do with the product. so i don't know anything about the 300, 200, none of that really matters. what matters is that you have good solid people decide whether or not and what to do to help shareholders. and i think that what the support shows is the inherent resiliency of the fund. when you $2.6 trillion in these funds with no interest and lots of regulatory abuse, that's really and a congressman. it's because that people want the cash management system. and if you talk about support in terms of what was done, the chairman was talking about, how about the support that every single one is doing, 100%, on waiting investment advisory fees in order to keep the funds going during these low interest times. so i look at support at something that is not unlike having a family. you burst the fund. what he going to do about keeping it going? we also mer

the reason i'm here today is to realizing itu are is our civic duty and responsibility not only to vote but to help candidates to get others to vote and make sure in this election is one that surely does turn things around. if we can get a conservative majority in the senate, of which can remove this president to is there now and replace him with mitt romney, i am convinced we have the mandate from the american people to balance our budget, it to stop spending more than we are bringing in, and to restore the freedom that has the values we want. we do not need the government to push our values or our state or our religion. we do need to stop the andernment from purging fak faith from the american way of life. that is what is happening right now. keep working hard. there are a lot of people inside the house and the senate that are really fighting for the same things you are. a lot of people of faith pray every day. we are counting on the people of the united states to get behind us and stand with us to turn this around. thank you for being there. thank you are having our back. we're glad

kissinger, io find itu, full of insights. i wanted to say to members of the committee, be careful, don't read it when you're in bed.e, j you fall asleep and it hits youy leg, it'll break it. [laughter] i want to talk about the book and we'll do some questions and answers.tlk and you take it anywhere you'd like to take.take the evidence for the book wasfob really, i likeoo many americans last summer witnessed theed debacle and i witnessed the fac we were stillc in two wars in te other side of the world.rid and i wase aware of thed i difficulties of the middle class in this country not just for a few years, but the median incomr in 2010 was the same it was in 1996. and for the last twenty five years, basically the stagnant. and i found last summer, people coming up to me, maybe because s was in the senate and politics for awhile and said do you think that anything is going to get done?hi i'm feel l hopeless.g and so i decided to write a book. i don't have any hands on the levers of power. i'm just a citizens.tize just like you.

government treating the market through mandate, that does not make it, because no of mount of money ith, itu subsidize it we'l will not fleapit we create these markets and then create a business opportunity. i do not fault you. we forced it down their throats. they did not buy it because it wanted to. we create a market and then we said we are going to creep the funding for you to go after it. at the end of the day, every single penny can out of taxpayers' pockets. it did not come from the governed. it was funneled through the government. any government money is flat out taxes trick we have disconnected ourselves with the revenue source. it is hard fooling the american tax payer. i appreciate your patience, but where i come from, these people are struggling, they tried to figure out things, they're working two and three jobs, and are wondering what the heck are you doing with the people -- with the money be sent you? it does not make sense to the american people. >> >> thank you. i appreciate the courtesy extended to be to participate. mr. crane, i want to talk about your statements near the

itu don't hear the service anymore, i hear it called the military, and i think that's an interesting switch in language that is happening that we should think about.swit and i got a scholarship to yale and blasted out of the countyyae and joined the marines because, you know, that was sort of the thing to do. i mean, guys in my high school football team would join the marines, so i want to be likel them.fo and i joined something called the plc program which is sort o. like a marine rotc, but they don't pay you. you get run through boot camp in the summer, and the people that survive that go to college as reservists.ople you don't get paid, but you get to be a marine. i thought, that sounds like a real good deal. we didn't have to wear uniforms or march around during college. and then i got a rhodes scholarship, and i thought i wouldn't be able to go. but i wrote a letter to the't b marine corps, and they said,go that's fine, take it. and i was there about six weekss and i started to feel reallyit. guilty because guys i had served with and trained with and kidse from my own high schoo