way, iuted in a certain think it made a lot of sense. the company chose to go another direction.nd that is the decision the company made. i see the stock price flying sky high, and all you can say is the market certainly agrees with the direction of the company, and i am excited about that. emily: how do you think he's doing? steve: i think he's doing a fantastic job. he's really pushed on the cloud. he is really building on the foundation of machine learning and artificial intelligence. revenues and profits have been pretty flat actually, but that is important to maintain as he read years -- as he re-gears the place. he has my unconditional support. emily: he has been more open to partnerships than you seem to be. is that the right strategy? steve: i have no quibbles with anything he has done. should azure run open source software? absolutely. is it easier for him to communicate that and it would have been for me, because i was identified as a competitor? sure. and he is taking advantage of it. he is doing the right stuff. emily: how does life as the owner of a basketball team c

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