i'm joined by my guess, ivan ellen in washington. he's a senior fellow at the independent institute in kingston. we have nichol, i petro, he is a professor of political science at the university of rhode island. and here in moscow, we have maxine scoff. he is director of the center for advanced american studies at moscow state institute of international relations. are a gentleman, cross that rules and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated, sir, i would look like it. it's really interesting to me watching this on a month long, eminent invasion, a messaging from the u. k and the u. s. everybody is talking about a russian invasion of ukraine, except for ukraine and russia are not. i mean, how do you explain that? yeah, clearly a president zelinski and his cabinet are not singing to the same hymn book. and that has been a source, as we read in the press of frustration in the united states, because the rest of the nato allies are predictably following along like that's about. so, you know, like you say

i'm joined by my guess ivan ellen in washington.

i'm joined by my guess, ivan ellen in washington. he's a senior fellow at the independent institute in kingston. we have nichol, i petro, he is a professor of political science at the university of rhode island. and here in moscow we have maxine scoff, he is director of the center for advanced american studies at moscow state institute of international relations. originally cross that rules and the fact that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it. i would start, i would look like, you know, it's really interesting to me watching this on a month long, imminent invasion, a messaging from the u. k. in the u. s. everybody is talking about arrested invasion of ukraine except for ukraine in russia or not. i mean, how do you explain yeah, clearly president zelinski and his cabinet are not singing to the same hymn book. and that has been a source as we read in the press of frustration in the united states. because the rest of the nato allies are predictably following along, like that's about. so, you know, like you