ivan fischer, welcome to hardtalk. lovely to be here. it's great to have you here in london.e ask you, how different has it been making music in the time of covid? covid had positive and negative effects on our life. the problem was that there is no audience and actually we make music for people. this is actually easy for musicians to forget. some musicians make music to impress other musicians, and we always, i remind them, "we play for the audiences, we play for the listeners." and this is what we didn't have. that was terrible. now the good thing is that, actually, it made us realise how badly we need the audiences. i think there is a streaming tiredness in the world now. because for many months after covid hit hungary, hit europe, hit the world, you created a new way of performing in your budapest festival orchestra. you got small groups of your musicians to go online to perform chamber music. and ijust wonder whether that was satisfying for the musicians, for you, or whether you just felt desperately frustrated. it was like, i have to come up with a line which mozart lik