and the take of ivan glasenberg. hong kong starts a new trial under his new national security law, raising questions about the city's independence and its future. anise, good morning to you. i have to say, whenever i come in -- manus, good morning. one of the ways i gauge is what is gaunt -- gauge what is going on is the plethora of notes i get. we are talking about it coin. what a wild ride went on yesterday, falling 10%, gaining 10%. it's the fifth time it has happened this year. it is not unusual to see that kind of volatility. manus: it is gut wrenching, and it's whether you've got the wherewithal to stomach it, scott minerd says it could trade down $20,000 but there is a longer-term story. he said i still prefer bitcoin to gold. of course these people are talking their book, and it's fair enough, everybody's got a book to talk. i've been obsessed with jeremy grantham at the moment. he says it coin is an asset with the nasdaq bubble. get ready for this. meme investors, it's called nihilistic investing. i know the