knew very well what if. the child was thrown into the trash, he found out from social networks, ivan kolpakovo, ivan, so your mother-in-law saved your little one relative? yes, i am very grateful to him, that is, if it weren’t for ivan, i can’t imagine what would have happened to the child and survived. he in general, and is this the first time you ’ve seen ivan? yes, ivana, i see it for the first time, thank you very much. tell me, ivan, how did you find out about this terrible act of your niece? i found out from social networks, then, uh , my nephew said, until recently i didn’t believe that she could do this, it became clear, that is, when... i saw the video from the conclusion, that is, the court room, that is, you saw her already in court , yes, and the camera surveillance, you saw what was recorded , the cameras recorded how the niece was walking, that is... that is, carrying a garbage bag in her hand, walked towards the garbage can, throws out the garbage bag and comes back, we have this video from surveillance cameras, this is your niece , yes, well, in general it looks like a rather