preached, another part of freemasonry, for example, believed that, quoting, in my opinion, just ivan perfilyevich elaginin who elagin is, ivan perfilyevich elagin, yes, a close associate of catherine i, a person very close to her, who took the post of obergafmester, one of the founders of the russian theater, the organizer of the russian theater, one of the main organizers of russian masonic lodges during catherine’s reign, the famous elaginskys lodges, yes, the yalaginskie lodges, of which there were 14 and which were not only in moscow in st. petersburg, for example, even in arkhangelsk, and which he created such a network of masonic lodges and... which is just some kind of political i didn’t set goals for myself, so you said that there is no need to idealize, i would also add not to idealize, not to demonize, because people went to the lodges, especially in those times, the first and catherine’s, and later, for very different reasons, someone went because they hoped, i don’t know, to open a philosophical stone, find out the secrets of the druids, the ancient chaldeans, i don’t know who. very big, whi