the last word of ivan stefanych. will be very difficult because europe has largely underestimated its own defense. we. what is missing is military equipment, what we have is the financial support that we have provided to ukraine and will continue to provide. so far we have provided more than 80 billion euros and recently approved a further package of 50 billion euros. the money has to come from somewhere, where will it come from, is the will strong enough in europe? we will have to gather these guests again, maybe in six months and see if there is still such a will in europe. cold winter months are ahead in ukraine. these uncertainties, this is the program that europe is talking about, thank you for being with us, today ukraine remembers the victims of the famine of 1932-33. the kyiv security forum brought together top ukrainian experts and ambassadors the usa, britain and israel for a special event, and for your attention the most interesting fragments from this discussion, to break the closed circle of death, dedic