ivan and ivan varchenko, an expert on security issues, a soldier of the armed forces of ukraine, worked live on the espresso info tv channel in the middle of the day at half past ten in the morning, and on valevska, antin borkovskyi, and then timur podstryuga, the head of the management of the association of sappers of ukraine, will join us and we will talk with him in more detail about demining of liberated territories, and in general , there are apparently no safe places, especially where there was an occupation or where russian troops simply passed, such areas as chernihiv and sumy kyiv region and of course the east and the south. i don't know even in these liberated territories. it's just in the forest for how many years. where will it be possible to walk? now we 'll ask professional sappers. how is their work going on ? we're digging in kyiv region, they had a time there, they mined apartments and on the street. there were cases when there were just stretch marks. and what's there in kharkiv region in particular, we'll ask, we'll add information for now, yes, interesting informatio