near bachmut ivan varchenko an expert on national security issues will be with us now i hope to be in touch and we will just ask him what is happening on the eastern front so ivan varchenkochenko expert on national security good health, mr. ivan, i am not very happy glory to ukraine glory to heroes is not so much maybe correct the first question is a little sharp but look different sources say that ukrainians are losing under bachmouth some say three times less than russians others say which is five times less than the russians, even those who say 10 times less but if you consider this that the russians lost from 20 to 30,000 with the same data , then the ukrainians lose a lot then the question arises, and in military science there are some numbers, how much can be lost in a certain period of time, because war is still losses , we will not be able to fight with clean hands without wounded and killed. but there is a military science that we have to delay the front . which is not far away, then there is an order to hold on as long as they have to hold on, so that they can then go into a counteroffensive, how many casualties will there be , there are talks about this in gen