ivan petrovich, as if everything is clear anyway. yes, two men are walking and that's it. clear. well, let's remember ivan petrovich flipping his ass at his work in this in the picture, the elderly people immediately write me down in the robber, they tell you, accountant. no, you are starting to breed hakhanki here. here's what's the thing. well, out of jail. and why are only murderers sitting in prison, or what? who will kill you? something enrolls, you just don't fill in here either. i saw some accountants, translated the accountant all quiet a little, like the accountant's shattered voice of a weak point, and then i noticed that they all take courses and like to watch ballet on tv, i'm talking about the accountant. she will believe. and as soon as i you went back to some fight or a car in the forest, you fucked up. oh, were you the first to work in this picture or not? or you immediately took it in its entirety and i entirely, because it was the impression that, well, really. we couldn't even talk to each other about the characters. why because it 's just that somehow the inner emotionally captured everything, and the thing is that hmm well, since i myself grew up in the village, i m-m, how to say, i had my own memories e, some even things. maybe they are similar, i’ll even say about my grandmother. uh, she had a lot of relatives and at least 570 people came to each holiday. uh-huh and it was several times a year and everyone cooked and everyone brought and everyone came. i just want to say that after all the village. it's probably something special. i have already said that, of course, you cannot exhaust this picture with one plot, because it is neither about time nor about the plot, but there is still an amazing quality in it. it seems to me with all the aching soul for the village behind the peasants there are unbelievable. the most irony that vasily had makarvich, and this is the desire, e of the protagonist , to search for an endless holiday, and which is very reflective. in general, our national character, it seems to me, well, uh, incredible ironically done. here is one of the, uh, scene, i propose to recall now. well, the tavern soul. let's get dirty, we're all set. i had to go to one artist. no one has. well, how is it going? well, how did i say ? the people gathered for debauchery. oh my god, my straight girls with peaches. the image of the birch trees that the main character has egor and as far as this reflected vasily makarvich himself, here or this is still, so to speak , a trait invented for this hero, not even in a birch in nature itself for him. the main thing is to live in nature, breathe in nature. yeah, that was the main thing. but birch as symbols of russia, a symbol of the mother, a symbol of the earth. this is birch therefore. eh, when did some critics write? well, beryozka is a felon , there is no beryozka, truth, er, here. he says they don't understand. if they smelled this, so they saw this too. return home return from prison home and suddenly the first thing that comes across is this mud road this is if a birch, of course, there are some crows over it. well, this is a symbol of love, very tenderness, a symbol of, uh, loyalty if you want this native land, this is the return but they are not so banal, in fact, they are still invented that they are girlfriends, but not such a birch on which you don’t know there you pray. and so my girlfriends are natalya, here the main character has the name yegor, who easily turns over in grief. which is also such a good metaphor to say so, and our life including, but i know that somehow he influenced the choice of the name of your son. we had such a history. i also didn’t tell the line nikolaevna, remember, yes, we are walking with him. here we are at the birthing center. yeah, and at first i didn’t know that this was a maternity hospital, but vasily makash look, this is a maternity hospital. now you and i will sit on a bench, and there someone will be born. and indeed you sit down on a bench and suddenly scream and it's already evening yes cry of a newborn, and he says to me, well, what would you call this child. i first of course, i was terribly confused. and the way i was absorbed in the script. i was worried, first of all, i knew who was playing what role. i am almost all the actors who played in this film. i knew almost everyone personally. i say, i would call him yegor so he looked, really, i say, really, but already when my son was born, or rather, it so happened that my father died before the birth of my son. i loved him very much. i said it doesn't matter. what day will my son be born, and he was born on ilyin's day, and i named him in honor of father fyodor but we had such a story with vasily makarychev. i'm looking at this photo of our scene right now. i can tell you about her. this. well, the top ones, yeah, the top ones. yes, when the scene before the death of yegor, he asks for water there, so that lyuba would bring some water. eh, they couldn't get it right. this is the scene to run the operator is not to run some kind of circle stopped that i kind of runners on this. e kruge, i almost fell, but still i ran to some rivulet, where they were and when i returned back. e. played his part. but how we would die on the stage, yes, and i stumbled on me, didn’t fall and ran up immediately fell down fell on him and it seemed to me that he laughed, and i hugged him like i was sobbing. why, a man is about to die, then, when he shouted, stop, which means that both he and i laughed. why i don’t know, there are some moments that are completely incomprehensible. eh yes. well, what happens there? i don't even know, and he says, are you , are you laughing? i say, yes, it seems to me that you just didn’t laugh at something. are you out of your mind ? i say, it seems to me, well, i shouldn't have fall. well, well, what to do? well, he says you imagined it. i say, it seemed that you laughed something at me. you shout something now, stop. uh, because i'm kind of there. he says how stretched, you thumped on me. so that my breath was taken away from me, and i just couldn’t breathe anything and i didn’t, maybe some kind of wheezing escaped, and it seemed to you that i laughed, then uh, in general, we argued for a long time, even quarreled on this occasion, then when already with him e was sounding. i looked, it's a camera. i couldn't voice. that is, i saw, i saw, completely dead, and i felt bad, and the guys , the actors, were standing here like vanilla, maybe i stood up and i felt bad, and i say, i can’t. my legs don't hold. holds me bad now. they called the doctor. they called an ambulance. it turned out that my blood pressure was 200 20. and. oh, god, i suspected. what just what is it, what happened to her? don't know. i don't know what it is, but i really saw this scene. then, when he mounted it, he called me and said, look carefully, why am i big got your plan? i say where a tear rolled down from you, how could i laugh, in general, he says, no, i took it, because the voice moved, as if the person had already died, and the hair was moving, a well-known case that writers say that heroes live besides them . well, when the script was already being written, there was no idea, after all , this character had some other fate. here's to somehow spare him. uh, spectators spectators, first of all dependent spectators came. he says, i know one thing for everything in life you have to pay. you betrayed the earth betrayed his mother, in the end he betrayed his small homeland for the rest of his life, the hero should not remain alive, eh, yes, well, maybe that's where i play there , i don't know, but i shouldn't, i didn't want to, i myself loved your mountains, so here uh, z- writes that our audience is very kind. well, i love this guy. and, of course, it is a pity to part with him very much. so maybe. if hmm uh, as if the viewer would have known in advance, uh, maybe he would have staged it and written it. yes, but i would marry children, give birth and forget everything, this is the most shameful life, but it's not interesting. it would have been all. since you studied together with vasily makarychev, then with me, uh, it would be a pity to lose this opportunity. here, as if some such memories of the period when he was just starting. was there a feeling of some kind of such a shock from him, despite the fact that you were peers, where i was, so to speak, the two most i turned off. it's uh, vasya and tarkovsky didn't have stars then. they were serious. they were hard workers . well, very noticeable people, and he has a day started at 9:00 am and ended at 11:00 am. he took part in all student works and never refused. but they are already three or so. well, he was like an actor, he was like a director. e, the heart paid for everything, well, it was in the heart. worn out i tomatoes will be burkov who loved him very much wonderful actors. true friend. he absolutely said that he was talking with this doctor there, who opened it. well, he has the completely worn out hearts of a ninety-year-old man. he paid for everything there in centimeters. everything is alive survived. i want to say that when already being an adult. uh, i got seriously ill and i think that this should be read, and i took the book. i came to give you a boiler, and you know, now, i’m telling everyone now, read this novel, because the scene of the death of stepan razin is something that’s not human at all, as it was all written by vasily makarych, because i understood that he empathized with all this, because it’s just like that even for me after how many years, right? gone and i always say honor this novel. thank you for remembering because one. recently passed, i don’t remember who wrote that andrei tarkovsky said that if there was a picture, razin’s, shukshin would be the first number one e director, he wrote that not only in russia, thank you. so i went through this because i remember andrei tarkovsky, there was one such interesting episode. uh, hmm andrey invited us. you remember us, they lived to visit us, they lived on the kursk cheese at the russian station, there was a small apartment there was one room kitchenette, and and something about us andryusha invited vasya, i came with her, we came. eh, opened to them. he tied the door to andrey in a white terry robe, damn it, with white, concrete, white slippers and white socks. vasya is like that, and now andrey is right. what's wrong with you? sore throat, lida let the chirke pass, and you and i will go into the room. a few days later he says to me, listen, you know, perhaps i should buy such a white coat. i say buy a bandage. let 's get dressed, white socks and white slippers. yes , very seriously. i'm serious too. like a fool, i began to look around the shops. this one wasn't in a sense, vasily makarovich was close to them in the shops of such gates, that is, robebinsk. he, too, was ready for himself no, no, yes yes, yes, yes, yes, and i bought him a brown bathrobe. e with a blue and yellow stripe. he was so happy that well, if not white, but we will find white, but he was already leaving this two-three-meter bath. well, he was wearing a bathrobe. and even such a moment zhanna chatted and called me and says, we studied together and says to kolya papa bought a sheepskin coat. she to him she to vasya it's good to buy this sheepskin coat 400 rubles. she is standing. so i came from college, brought this sheepskin coat and sat. so you went to the mirror and said, yes, dostoevsky is not a prophet. beauty will save the world. yes, yes, yes, right now, suddenly, right now , something is harmful to the head. by the way, i must tell you, because literally in the next part of the program. we will just continue to remember 1974 . uh, thanks to the picture kalina is red and let's remember how our country lived and what fashion was at that moment, what people were generally fond of. so stay with us. we will continue soon. 1974 and film kalina krasnaya two more wonderful interlocutors irina vladimirovna krutikova joined our conversation. fashion designer, designer, honored artist of russia and vladimir devyatov , people's artist of russia in the repertoire, as i understand it, a huge number of folk songs, which is also important for us in this conversation. well, take makarovich was a man. uh, amazing talent, uh, and, of course, in this picture, and she completely absorbed our mentality, as if she were very general about us, she burns out about village about our character and so on and incredible. i think, uh, here are the costumes in this picture. they are very much the same, also speaking in their own way, which are the characters of this picture, and so i would like to, and irina vladimirovna, call with me to these mannequins, which we now have here in order to discuss , uh, well , main costumes, and then ver. we rush at the table and we will continue. wow here we have twice represented, so the actual hero yegor and uh, here is the heroine of lady nikolaevna uh. i wanted to note. all your personal. why did you like it and that's it, then say stranger is unknown, and this is unknown. your personal unknown. yes, it's a shock that hung on the wall. yes, it was my idea, it's amazing, because it seems to me that such a telling detail is true, vladimir, here's what you will tell us about these pendants with paintings by artists. well, these very expensive and very valuable things, of course , i know, at least i didn't see it. i was very much not quite. well, in small towns i worked a lot, because our fur industry was located in all small towns. so i didn’t see anything like that with them , just like a red shirt on a man. yes, it seems to me that this is, well, a little touched. uh-huh, he doesn’t want such a guy who just wanted some kind of holiday all the time the soul asked. it seems to me, perhaps, well, maybe it's still such an artistic technique, of course, it's such a pure cinematic in general in the cinema very often costumes. eh, they embellish a little. it's a little better. what they really were at that time. yes, especially since, if here are pictures, well, he takes pictures at this time, yes, then embellish a little, in general, not only with regard to the countryside. well, the townsmen also wear a suit. yeah , why do you say that it was an expensive thing. it turned out that it was sold almost in department stores, that it was some kind of plastic. hey, pendants. or is it mine memories are deceiving no, well, after all, this person must be completely different, which is nikolaevna. yes, of course, it is precisely this pendant that very much determines this very personality. i do not take. now, in general, this hero here. yes, the content of this hero gives an absolutely precise definition. uh-huh, and as for the general, here is a white blouse, a plaid skirt. so we found out that this, of course, is from the wardrobe of nikolaevna's glacier, but in principle, it seems to me, it's so quite a festive one. uh, a solemn look, this one that could exist in any time skirt in a cage with pleats. a white blouse, or any other plane here, will do and you will always be well dressed, you still have to go out . like this. day off is perceived, it seems to me, today we would say that this is casual wear, but in the seventy-fourth year it is still more. well , better. as for this magnificent mannequin, it's fascinating. well images, which, of course, it is clear that this is unthinkable humor. so to speak in this. it seems to me that the suit is laid or not, or here is the length of the jacket matches the fashion. no, it corresponded, but it also hurt more than a city storm, just at that time men's jackets appeared, which were somewhat elongated and something in between a jacket and a half-length. wow so average. well, it's heavy to wear. this is the pioneer version. although this is according to today's perception. it's very funny when there are few legs left, and the jacket is so long and it seems, it even seems to me that such a fashion has not come back to us so much for me. this can be considered in no way as a half-coat. here's how a short coat is just the length. these are very good boots, which are separately paid attention to in the film how acutely popular they were. you know, i don’t remember it at all, but she has suede boots, i have low shoes. i now pay attention that men go to suede. and so, somehow, you know, i’m not unambiguous about this, because for you you need to be able to wear shoes and take care of them. it's not like you kicked her off your feet there anyway, like this one, which means there is the most chic, so to speak, of course, but i'm not his people chose leather shoes to make it easy. god forbid , and then there will be rubber. yes, and suede means you have money. if you have a deputy 6 in order to allow you to buy suede shoes, among other things, it means that you are still walking on clean roads. yes, because, because you mostly wore gala in the countryside. shea and all kinds of shoes, he seems to be wearing in the country now , so it was the village that everyone wore, yes, and great attention was paid to this. they were different and were very beautiful. well let's remember how suede boots are actually presented. i can carry bulls' tails. because i'm all around in suede. so what we have here. handsome , well, they shuffled to their liking. natasha is the maximum beauty, as for the tie, as ties were just like that at that time, because they were patterned, but they were so active, active and very large in size. yeah , these are not even visible here, where it ends, for sure, it goes below the waist. well, with such a jacket, you could afford it, and the cap is so tiny, while this also fits. yes, yes, this is the image that we can see. now, if you come off this villager, not rural, it's really poignant. fashionably dressed man in seventy-four. well, not spicy, fashionably boring. you know how it doesn't matter. yes. it is not by chance that such a no is not indifferent. well, the shoes were also picked up, and okay. thank you so much. let's get back to the table. but, it seems to me, how dressed is still very important. uh, in the thieves' raspberry there, just everything is very fashionable there, or a hay wig and there, uh, as much as possible. to me it seems that all the most chic trends are expressed, how they worked on these images. eh, glacier nikolaevna, do you remember my tanya gavrilova? hey classmate? yeah, when lucy refused, i had to go on an expedition, a and in general, we were all friends together, she was friends with anatoly zabolotsky operator. uh, and uh, vasily did not, in general, who to take on this, the next one on the stage said the best actress was on the course. eh, that's just a wig. this is purely coincidental. she just came a little so easy like that. in a state and something her hair is red there white gray black one should have had this wig. that is, it was necessary to somehow cover them with something. but it was fashionable wigs, but it might have been fashionable, but they simply did not exist. but still, thieves, raspberries, she had a janitor, because other money, therefore, they could afford anything. but the cap, it is such a knitted cap. here is a gray one, too. here, a sign of the mid- seventies or not. this is not such an emphasis, maybe it was on this, but rather. here is such a rumpled cap from fabric. rather, this is dirty. well, the maximum front is, of course, georgy burkov in this company is simply a luxurious handsome man. light raincoat light corduroy. cap, well, just an eye some kind of tie in a cage, and also some kind of pastel intellectual. uh, how is vasily makarovich to his own? uh close friend, how do i understand the trust and exactly what role? why did he choose this role for him. uh, well i don't know why i can't answer for him. and as for the costumes, uh, then uh. well if it i like it, everything, it’s convenient for him to play to finish, otherwise no matter what artist there would be, the costume would be super there. and what he sees and what he has drawn in sketches. eh, well, you can still say. i'll talk to the director like that. you are normal things. well , of course, this is natural, especially since this is not a historical costume that should correspond to something there. it's actually our time as an actor, amazing, uh, who can do anything. uh, nothing, not playing. uh, so play what you never dreamed called he liked this role again. i want to tell a story. it's much. everything is more interesting. well, of course, deeper, of course, it is written. but uh, as if shukshin was no longer interested in this raspberry. well, now i propose to remember, there is one more, but an episode. uh, actually the first appearance of your heroine, when she leads the hero yegor in the tea room. thank you. listen, let's get out of here, otherwise we're all watching like two hairs on a bald head. well, let them look at you. you didn't run away. here is the release note. well and how long did you sit last time i sat for 5 years. it with such hands. you're an accountant. i can't even believe the slippers were sewn. with such hands, only break locks, and not sew slippers. well, you say. she was just discussing with her whether this is a trend, so to speak, or is it still the work of the costumes in this particular film. everything happens on its own, of course, if fundamentally modern. well, she's ready to meet her fiancé. why why not buy this one in kostroma on the market, right? you know that i bought him and zabolotsky a red shirt, we bought it especially for this film, yes, especially for i bought the filming, because when i complained that i loved i used to love red, and it seems to me that this, when all the more there is a conversation about that fashion, when they are with e, ivanthere, so it seemed to me that he should be like that. here, well, i don’t know why it’s bright. however, you know, this is what red is, of course, for the countryside. it's very cheeky. yes, it's incredibly cheeky. and of course, according to the film, and films - it was very suitable. here you are perfect completely options, they found that this is red and that's it for this hero. i just ask for millet i thought, i know that yes. yes, i say something. no. and if you talk. in general, in the countryside and how they dressed, well, how they dressed, they dressed like this so that the dirt was not visible. and by the way, to say at that time there were generally, you know, such silpo stores there and vodka and bread and kerosene and absolutely magnificent clothes and terrible clothes. well, it’s magnificent, because representatives were sitting on the purchases, but what is now we are called brokers yes, foreign collections were shown and there were brokers from various department store
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