the grand jury is looking at potential tax charges involving ivanka trump. there was this very large payment from the trump organization to ivanka trump as a, quote/unquote, consultant. while she worked there, there could be tax implications. allen weisselberg could be as well. >> what evidence are we looking at? >> michael cohen. he has talked to prosecutors. he has tweeted himself,ly be the star witness, let's see. it's michael cohen. let's see if that pans out. we know the d.a. has the tax returns. they went all the way to the supreme court to get those tax returns and millions of other financial documents. they obtained information earlier from deutsche bank, the lender to the trump organization and then this, we don't know. this is a question mark. allen weisselberg. if they can flip him, he's the longtime chief financial officers of the trump organization, that's going to be critical. watch and see if the grand jury subpoenas weisselberg or indicts him. that's going to be keel. >> this is hugely helpful. appreciate it. brianna? >>> maggie haberman is he

last week ivanka trump posted she had received her second dose writing that getting fully vaccinatedthis pandemic and protect ourselves and one another. and former vice president mike pence even getting his shot on live tv last december while still in office. and president trump's administration launched operation warp speed, which helped develop the life-saving vaccines, a success of his term. >> it's called operation warp speed. that means big and that means fast. >> we did something that is really considered a medical miracle. they're calling it a miracle, and that was the vaccine. >> reporter: but some say the former president sent mixed messages about the vaccine. >> even though he went ahead and got the vaccine himself, he did it in silence, when he should have done it publicly. that would have been the responsible thing to do. and a lot of his followers, a lot of his supporters would have probably followed in his footsteps. we lost crucial time in getting that into people's mind-set that it's okay and safe to take the vaccine. >> reporter: you are at peace now with your family

you may disagree with the solutions republicans come up with but ivanka trump and marco rubio did work earnestly on a proposal for paid family leave. is it fair to say that the only reason it hasn't happened is because republicans haven't come to the table? >> there have been more, enough of them. clearly,. >> what would it take? what would it take? >> i would say for reform, with republicans mitch mcconnell said today, i'm going to work with democrats and we will get these things done. it will happen. we know who they likely will be, but things will happen. but that is not mitch mcconnell's priority. he is not about to help joe biden get his major pieces of legislation through. he is certainly not going to be helping democrats with our priorities. that is where we are. >> i like to ask you about your own immigration story. you write extensively about your time growing up, your mother working and leaving you and your siblings to take care of yourselves to a large extent as she tried to get your legs going in hawaii. >> yes. the fact that i am an immigrant, i understand the opportunitie

you may disagree with the solutions republicans come up with, but ivanka trump and marco rubio did work very earnestly on a proposal for paid family leave. is it fair to say that the only reason it hasn't happened is because republicans haven't come to the table? >> well, there haven't been more -- enough of them. [ chuckles ] so clearly, in this environment -- >> so what would it take? what would it take? >> i would say we would have to do either filibuster reform or the republicans -- if mitch mcconnell said today, "i'm going to work with the democrats and we're going to get these things done," it will happen -- there will still be the holdouts. we know who they likely will be. but things will happen. but that is not mitch mcconnell's priority. his priority is to take back the senate, which means th he is not about to help joe biden get his major pieces of legislation through. and he's certainly not going to be helping democrats with our priorities, so that's where we are. >> i'd like to ask you about your own immigration story. i mean, you write extensively about your time growing up

investigation, so i wouldn't expect to see a subpoena served on eric trump, donald trump, jr., or ivanka trumpwho receives a subpoena, can invoke the right to testify. so a person may say i say something that could incriminate me, they can avoid testifies. prosecutors can then say we won't prosecutor you if you testify. >> so it sounds like we may know something within six months. >> it certainly seems like. they could extend the length of the term, but that seems likely. >>> we have new details about this mass shooting. the latest mass shooting in america. we're going to tau to the author of "columbine" even after all the this time, believe it or not, he is still hopeful about gun reform. oh, i had never seen a picture of her until i got on ancestry. it was like touching the past. my great aunt signed up to serve in the union army as a field nurse. my great grandmother started a legacy of education in my family. didn't know she ran for state office. ended up opening her own restaurant in san francisco. paralee wharton elder, lupe gonzalez, mary sawyers, margaret ross. there's a lot of life th

or ivanka trump because you don't subpoena someone who's a target of the investigation and if you did they would take the fifth. the question for me is who were the peripheral players in and around the trump organization who may not have criminal exposure themselves but may be able to come in and shed some lights on these piles and piles of documents that the prosecutors have. that's where i would target my subpoenas. >> jim, despite all of this, donald trump is not losing supporters among republicans in washington. listen to this. >> tell me who is your president? >> that's my president, too. >> this is donald trump's party and i am a donald trump republican. >> can we move forward without president trump? >> let me tell you this right now, donald j. trump is not going anywhere. >> is there anything we could see anything happening in the legal realm? >> i don't think so. you could make the argument that the entire republican party has gone out on the limb and donald trump and the manhattan d.a. can saw off that tree branch and let the entire party go down with donald trump. that may

you know, ivanka trump's compensation that is come up in these investigations. they all were involved with making senior decisions within the trump organization, and we also know there's tons of pressure being brought to bear on alan weisselberg, the company's longtime chief financial officer. he's been there since the 1970s. he knows where the financial bodies are buried. loyalty in donald trump's world is usually a one-way street, and if push comes to shove and they begin to squeeze his accountant, they could see alan weisselberg flip. i think that's a significant avenue that investigators seem to be pursuing. >> tim, you need about this, but i think the first time that the general public heard about that there could be these vast inflated assets or at least donald trump was fudging, was when michael cohen testified in front of the that congressional hearing and alexandria ocasio-cortez zeroed in on that. let me remind everyone. >> tourge, did the president ever provided inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows that the president did t

we later learned that his daughter and senior advisor, ivanka trump, used personal unsecure email for built part of his campaign about hillary clinton using personal email while secretary of state. trump himself refused to use secure phones to make calls, despite repeated warnings about his vulnerability. he was still doing that years into his presidency, by the way, and he also made calls around guests at mar-a-lago and had classified conversations about north korea out in the open as he dined on the patio of the resort. perhaps, though, the most interesting of trump's cyber moves was putting rudy giuliani in charge. >> i'd love to be the person that comes up with the solution to cybersecurity. >> the guy hand selected to lead the nation's effort against cyber warfare is the same guy who's notorious for butt dialing, including accidentally calling reporters and who reportedly locked himself out of his iphone and whose electronics were recently seized by the fbi during a raid for a criminal investigation. it's not just fox, though, trying to stroke the ego of florida's most prominent

we know other members of congress were talking to jared kushner and ivanka trump as the insurrection to the extent to which members of congress may have played a role in helping these insurrectionists by giving them tours. republicans are complicit in this. they are accomplices. they're doing everything they can to ensure there's no bipartisan commission because they know the commission is going to find that they were a part of this. and so they're leaving democrats with no choice, but once again, to go it alone. as they whine and complain about what might end up being a select committee a more partisan process, let me remind everybody that republicans didn't hesitate to have hearing after hearing to investigate hillary clinton under the guise of benghazi, having her testify for 11 hours. so i don't want to hear from republicans when they don't get the bipartisan commission, you know, democrats were willing to give them everything they could have possibly asked for on this for a fair and even process. republicans rejected it, so they're going to have to live with the consequences. >>

there are also issues regarding taxes and ivanka trump. >> that's interesting.s executive vice president and also a consultant. that's a problem. it's hard to be both at the same time. >> exactly. they pay her a huge amount of money to put money in her pock and avoid taxes. and the way they're trying to flip weisselberg arguing he got a chunk of his income from tuition for his family's schooling. >> this is basic stuff regarding weisselberg. paying for tuition, cars, that's part of your income, in theory. if you're not paying taxes on that, that's evasion. >> that's right. evasion, 101. an investigation was opened back in 2018 that was originally focused on the hush money payments to stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, but it's since expanded significantly. we learned this week the new york state attorney general leticia james hat only been investigating on the civil side, and now she's extended her probe with cy vance at the d.a.'s office. we don't know exactly what they have, but we do know important thing. michael cohhen keeps telling us when he speaks. he was

you recall the recent reporting where ivanka trump was deposed in washington, d.c., on the inaugurationould barely remember who allen weisselberg is. that's the strategy we're going to see here. it's all weisselberg's fault. it's all a witch hunt. and it's going to be -- it's all politics. >> i mean, that seems like a foolish strategy in that clearly none of them got any money for any of their pet projects without allen weisselberg's signature on it. harry litman, you talked about the tax returns as a mother lode. the tax returns were only made available to cy vance's investigation as a result of a supreme court decision that donald trump derided from go, and i wonder how much -- you talk about intent and sort of the state of mind, how much of that evidence will the grand jury be made aware of? >> of their resistance, probably not a lot, but the time -- i want to go back to what you just asked frank, because it's clear the smart strategy here is to shut up, but it seems like one it's not capable of having trump do. but everything they say now, every little spin, can now be used in court

his sons don junior and eric are executive vice presidents, ivanka trump, his daughter, was an executivere she went to work for the white house. the one person who is not a trump is allen weisselberg. he's the chief financial officer, he's been there for decades. so if they flip him, he can really break this case open. and especially important when we look at what are the potential allegations here? the core of the investigation that we're seeing relate to finances. did the trump organization falsely inflate or deflate the value of some of their real estate holdings, including these four that we see on the board. the theory is, when they applied for a bank loan, they would inflate the value to get bigger bank loans. and when it came tax time, they'd deflate the value so you pay less tax. think about how allen weisselberg, if he flipped, could blow the lid off that. >> what are they looking at specifically in terms of weisselberg. they're closing in on him or investigating -- we don't know how close they are to anything. they're investigating him for tax reasons. >> when you are a prosecu

i remember being at a ivanka trump message, and they were chanting stop the steal.anted and that is what she had to deliver. that is what kelly loafler had to say. and the war has been won, by one side, and they're demanding officials react in kind. >> this is the argument that is being made by former congressman denver riggleman who left the party because of this stuff. he is still in virginia talking to voters and in his community and that is what he's hearing from them. >> they're absolutely sure the election was stolen. it is everybody down here. and that belief that donald trump is really the chosen one, he's the one that has been chosen to take the flag of the american dream, he's blessed and it is a messianic type of conspiracy theory or cult. >> a messianic type of conspiracy theory or cult. are they responding to that or feeding that or both. >> there is a generational shift inside of congress where i work. you have a house republican conference in which 50% of them never served a day with john boehner, who only left five and a half years ago. and all of th

the media is obsessed with the two scoops of ice cream scandal or ivanka trump holding a can of goyans. why isn't something lake this, especially when trillions more of green new deal money is going out, why doesn't this stuff get the same kind of attention? >> yeah, yeah. this story when i read this' unintentionally hilarious. you are joe biden. you are barack obama's vice president. you know in the porkulous plan, otherwise called the stimulus plan you know the solyndra thing happened. pete, you also know your son hunter has had sheaferred stuff with ukraine, choin and moscow mope. this is the white house. you would think someone would have sat around a bit like okay, let's think this deal through. we have got this energy secretary who has got some ownership in this company and we are going to visit the company. ' didn't someone at the table go we have hunter, we have solyndra this is not a good idea. and nobody in the white house thought this was a bad idea? it speaks to their incompetence, doesn't it. >> pete: speaks on their reliance for the media to cover for them. even if we d

his children donald and eric trump who are both executive vice president harris, his daughter ivanka trumpis really the only person who had access to the inner circle and that is why his information could be so important. >> a wider probe of the trump organization. >> yes, exactly. into the wider probe. so weisselberg's -- prosecutors have been focusing on weisselberg because he could hold the keys to the whole kingdom here. the da opened this investigation and the attorney general has now joined forces with the da so we're seeing a growing, expanding investigation here. now, the key theory is that the trump organization intentionally inflated or deflated assets. and if you look at some of the assets of the trump organization around the world the idea is that when it came time to apply for bank loans they would inflate the value of those assets to try to get higher bank loans but when it came tax time they would deflate the value of the assets and if you think about the fact that allen weisselberg was cfo, chief financial officer, who would be better positioned than he to make those decisi

to allen's office, to the trump organization, which is the parent company for all of trump's entities. you know, ivankafers to it as the umbrella company, you know, don jr. refers to it as another brand name, but it is the trump org that rules the roost, and the chickens have come home to roost, and the facts are the facts and so now that he is no longer president he's going to have to answer these questions. >> you talk about the deposition. i know that one of the aspects of it is an e-mail of weisselberg asking for detailed inaugural revenue break downs, doug if you would be so kind to send me the latest report reflecting all revenue broken down by its sources as well as a detailed disbursement schedule by vender, it would be greatly appreciated. what insight did you gain looking at the deposition about what that meant about what weisselberg knew? >> look, i'm sitting here today, chris, three years in. it's taken over my life, this investigation, as a lead witness. grand jury subpoenaed from the southern district of new york all the way, you know, to the intelligence committee and now usdc. it is rea

he brought up jared and ivanka and the new york questioned eric trump.ll of them and might he step in front of a bullet, so to speak, to protect his children? >> well, there have been indications of involvement in the very thing that sy vance and letitia vance are investigating fraud at the trump organization. we know donald trump jr. signed some of the checks that were involved in the hush money payments and eric trump has been questioned on taxes of properties at the seven springs resorts and other places. the facts are going to matter there. the beauty of a paper case from a prosecutor's perspective is that it's much easier to document what happened. you don't have to rely on eyewitnesses who might not have had the ability to observe or might have forgotten key details or might be impeached for bias. documents don't lie and they don't forget. so the documents will tell the story here. so it is quite possible that some people can be charged if document, for example, show the documentation of one asset as having a lower value for one purpose and a highe

who was texting donald trump, ivanka, and people at the white house. how ahead to people got here. these investigations can be done, i did them. i'm surprised the democrats have taken so long to subpoena these records themselves. we're going to continue to stand with these families, our police are hurting. yesterday when they were showing that video of him being beaten to these members of congress, we asked them. we said talk to these officers as grow in there to vote. we were fortunate to meet with senator romney and lisa as well as susan collins and we ended our day with lisa murkowski. we thank her for fighting what i know history will show who is on the right and who will prevail. i'm bondering if you had a chance to talk with mrs. sicknick since this delay. it looks like the writing is on the wall here. what's going through her mind? >> we are still pleading that they will do the right thing. this was not her type of thing to do. she didn't want to come but she could not stay quiet anywhere. lisa murkowski said we're so sorry that you feel like you had to come that the right t

as part of that settlement, trump had to make 19 admissions that he personally misused funds. don jr., eric and ivanka undergo mandatory training, the trump charitity had to shut down. this prosecuor has a proven record. joy, i don't think she will let this be publicly known unless she was fixing to do something at some point that's going to cause severe consequences for either the trump organization or donald trump or members of his family. >> let's talk about mr. weisselberg who is the cfo. this is a piece in the "wall street journal." it says new york prosecutors subpoenaed a manhattan private cool as they seek cooperation of weisselberg. more than $500,000 of the weisselberg's children's tuition was paid for -- it means they could have looked at whether the weisselbergs committed tax evasion. we've been talking about flipping someone else to try to get the information you want. mr. weisselberg feels like somebody who might be very valuable if he decided to cooperate. is that where you would be going, joyce, if you were these prosecutors? >> weisselberg has to be the cooperaing witness you want if

. >> we've never once talked about hunter biden as a hot topic whereas if ivanka or donald trump jr.why fox is killing it in the ratings. it seems like it's rigged every place else. howard: now, meghan, who disclosed that her husband ben

. >> we've never once talked about hunter biden as a hot topic whereas if ivanka or donald trump jr.gh in the wrong direction, there's a reason why fox is killing it in the ratings. it seems like it's rigged every place else. howard: now, meghan, who disclosed that her husband ben domenech recently became a fox news contributor, they do it from a place of moral righteousness. we stand for truth, justice and the american way. and usually exempt their side from the slightest scrutiny. >> i mean, let's go down the list of the things that are inaccurate on cnn and msnbc, and then we can talk about fairness in the media. howard: now, of course, what i try to do is look at bias and blunders on all sides, and you'll see that on this program. last night "the washington post," new york times and nbc all acknowledged a major blunder in their coverage of rudy giuliani. we'll see how much attention that gets. i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ ♪ howard: "the new york times" bombshell exploded across all the cable news networks. federal investigators were serving search warrants on rudy

subpoenas were issued to the trump organization relating to consulting fees paid to president trump's daughter ivanka. we know those subpoenas were issued as a result of groundbreaking investigative reporting done by suzanne craig and other reporters at "the new york times" who basically got the story of the year when they gained access to trump's long-secret tax records. if the new york attorney general's office has now decided they have found something potentially criminal in the evidence they're looking at, something that ought to be prosecuted criminally instead of just pursued with a civil lawsuit, what could that be? how serious could criminal charges be that come about as a result? outside of the investigative offices themselves, the one person i know who knows the potential evidence here better than anyone else is the person who dug it up, is new york times investigative reporter suzanne craig who along with her pulitzer prize-winning team at "the new york times" have made more information public about donald trump and his business finances than anyone else. suzanne joins us live here next. s

to the trump organization, seeking records related to consulting fees paid to president trump's daughter, ivankaas were issued as a result of groundbreaking investigative reporting done by susan craig, and other reporters at the new york times that got the story of the year when they got access to trump's long secret tax records. if the new york attorney generals office has now decided that they have found something potentially criminal in the evidence that they are looking at, something that ought to be prosecuted criminally, instead of just being prosecuted with a civil lawsuit, what could that be? how serious could the criminal charges could be? else out of the investigative offices themselves, the one person, i know, who knows the potential evidence here better than anyone else is the person who dug it up, it's new york's time investigative reporter susanne craig who, along with her pulitzer prize-winning team with the new york times have made public more information about donald trump and his business finances than anybody else. suzanne joins us live here next. live here next ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ow! t

the trump family historically would take charge of one project, ivanka take charge of another projecte's any evidence against the trump children, we do not. >> sam, you asked a really interesting question. the fact that he's under investigation compel mr. trump to get back into politics? well, as a sitting president you can't be charged federally. that's policy not law. but there's nothing that would preclude a state from charging a sitting president, at least by policy. now, a sitting president could raise all sorts of constitutional and legal objections to being prosecuted while in office. but that seems like a pretty flimsy read to run on. please vote for me so i don't get charged with a crime in new york state. >> jonathan o'connell, thank you so much for being with us. we really appreciate it. hey, chuck, can i just ask you a general question that we've been talking about here for the past month or so, over the past five years we have seen one leak from another from whether it's the fbi or whether it's state attorney generals or from whatever sources that have basically, you know

with trump, by the way, ivanka and jared with a power couple for every cover.t for six years but he was a pro until it went away but yeah, i think this is what happens right before they start taking out the long knives for you. >> jesse: i will wait for that, i will watch the clock on that, those long knives. up next, think you have what it takes to survive in the wilderness? the absurd number of days people say they could last out there, next. usable musical ♪ ♪ i really hope that this vaccine can get me one step closer to him. to a huge wedding. to give high fives to our patients. to hug my students. with every vaccine, cvs is working to bring you one step closer to a better tomorrow. i'm really nervous. with every vaccine, i don't know what i should wear. just wear something not too crazy, remember it's a business dinner not a costume party. on a spotty network this is what she heard... just wear something crazy, remember it's a costume party. a costume party!? yes! anybody want to split a turkey leg? you need a financial plan that can help grow and protect

i suspect that donald trump jr., eric, ivanka, they all are lawyering up. as i said, trump is a greatest challenge program for lawyers imaginable. they're all sitting there asking those questions and perhaps some saying should i make a deal? should i take a flip? obviously incredibly difficult to do against your familiar members. donald trump doesn't have that level of loyalty. >> we watched donald trump for five years. this is a serious question. if he is charged, does desantis have to turn him over? what do you think would happen? serious question. >> desantis has floated around the idea or the folks that he can like protect donald trump from an extradition request from new york and trump for his part is like saying, yeah, desantis, maybe make you my vice presidential candidate in 2024 and bizarre to me. i can't imagine anyone wanting to be trump's vice presidential candidate in 2024. but the serious answer is that governor desantis can't do that. the constitution in its text our founders dealt with this saying that if you commit a crime in one state and s

there's many tenticles that are going to be grabbing at trump, at don jr., ivanka, eric, the kushner's you name it and a host of other people. i really believe they need to come down, come back to reality. >> leading off the discussion are adam kaufman who served as executive assistance district attorney and chief of the investigation division at the manhattan district attorney's office. and also msnbc analyst and host -- of hell and high water podcast from the recount. adam, let me start with you. what we just heard michael cohen say you can agree with the political piece of it but the way he describes what he thinks the shape of this investigation is and how many directions it goes involving everyone at the higher end of the trump company which of course includes donald trump's children. >> that's absolutely right, lawrence. thanks for having me on tonight. it really has been an astounding turn of events for mr. trump and i'm sure he is worried. i love the quote you opened with, the law will pursue him, because that's exactly what we're seeing. he's not being pursued for political re

the individuals who have criminal exposure, include donald trump senior, don junior, eric, ivanka and allen weisselberg. >> cynthia, i think about the rock scott situation where he had a huge health care company that committed massive medicare and tricare fraud and he gave a deposition saying i didn't know anything about that. that didn't have anything to do with me. he was never involved directfully this case. in this case it's a little different. donald trump is involved in the trump organization. it's not a big massive company like the health care company was. prosecutors do impanel grand juries not for fishing expeditions but because they have probable cause. how unlikely to convene this kind of a process for a former president of the united states. do you think the person who should be the most nervous is donald trump or is it one of these other people that paul mention? the son or allen weisselberg? >> i think it's the lower level people. this is six months period and it's a very important period. prosecution with the grand jury system in new york is very different than the fede

trump who knows everything about everything, allen weisselberg, the chief financial officer, don, ivanka and eric. those are your five. >> that is a trump lawyer in the know for years talking about a trump money man who has been in the know all the way through this year. though donald trump remains one of the most controversial people in public life in the history of the united states, maybe the world, i want to tell you, this news is not about how you feel about donald trump or how he performed as president. his performance, however abysmal many people feel it was. we know the bulk of voters turned away from him when given a referendum is not under view in the courts. indeed, i will tell you that how good or bad a president was should never matter in the courts. what matters tonight, what's so significant, is that the people who take the oath to enforce these laws without fear or favor or partisan advantage, they are moving towards a more serious review of this as a criminal matter. that should only be because if they're doing their jobs right they have evidence, not about donald trump

hallmark makes birthday cards specifically for trump that basically say the same thing "it's from ivankacorrupt sweetheart." i mean, seriously even the people who work for trump called him "an idiot, a moron, and a dope," and before they sold their souls, guys like marco rubio, lindsey graham, ted cruz were calling him "a xenophobic, race-baiting bigot, a con artist, a pathological liar and a jackass." michael cohen was his fixer and right hand man and he said pretty much the same in a book and on national television although, michael cohen's best burns these days are reserved for rudy giuliani's son, andrew who's running for governor of new york >> and then there's andrew giuliani. andrew makes erik look like a valedictorian of harvard [ laughter ] so - right, i mean, you know, i think if i'm not mistaken, you know, andrew even failed trump university that's to give you an idea of just how stupid he is. >> seth: can't believe i'm saying it, but i think prison was great for michael cohen. came out with a new attitude and a quiver full of zingers got rid of that baby blue jacket but hanni

so it is donald trump's senior, his three kids, junior eric and ivanka, and a little while bergen a fews. he knows where everything is. he was involved in the trump foundation, remember that was shut down to four rapid growth illegality? there is nothing that goes on in the trump is news world that he is not involved with. he is the rose at a stone. >> three of his four children, david corn, great reporting. >> thank, you chris. >> ahead could the courts be the next frontier for the fight against climate change? why we should be a lot of attention to the landmark ruling in the netherlands that is holding big oil accountable, up next. up next. and so is walgreens, with pharmacists who you know, who know you. so, when you're ready, they'll be ready to give it to you safely, for free. this is our shot at bringing our communities back together. providing healing, not just for some, but for all. this is our shot. this is our shot. this is our shot. why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because every new day starts the night before. this is our shot. and a quality night's sleep i

so it's donald trump senior, his three kids, junior, eric and ivanka and allen weisselberg and a few on. remember that was shutdown too, for rampant gross illegality, there's nothing that goes down in the trump world that he's not involved in. so he is the rosetta stone. >> i should say three of his four children. tefany trump, i see you, got your back. david cornyn, great reporting. >> thank you, chris. >>> ahead, could the courts be the next frontier in the fight against climate change. after this. against climate change after this breyers is always so delicious... i can tell that they used your milk, matilda. great job! [moo] you're welcome. breyers natural vanilla is made with 100% grade a milk and cream and only sustainably farmed vanilla. better starts with breyers. do you struggle with occasional nerve aches min your hands or feet? sustainably farmed vanilla. try nervivenerve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company. nervive contains alpha lipoic acid to relieve occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. try nervivenerve relief. ♪ ♪ ♪ common love isn't for us

there is many tentacles here that are going to be grabbing at trump, at don jr., at ivanka, eric, the kushners, you name it and a host of other people. so i really do believe that they need to come down to -- you know, they need to come back to reality and understand that's what's facing them is much bigger than them. see, donald trump forgets that he's not the biggest thing in the world, and believe me i know. i was there against these people. and i can tell you that when they come down on you, it is very rough. and donald does not have the ability to deal with it because he has no attention span. >> well, and as you say, if it's rough, it is now for someone who doesn't have presidential powers. in mr. weisselberg's case we'll see what he's dealing with. thanks to both of you. we have our shortest break, just 30 seconds when we turn to the ex-daughter-in-law of weisselberg in 30 seconds. g in . , we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace soluti

trump, who knows everything about everything, allen weisselberg, the chief financial officer. don, ivanka and eric. those are your five. >> cohen has also said he thinks weisselberg will ultimately turn on trump. meanwhile, a very interesting report in palm beach county about what is a hypothetical by a striking one. officials there according to "politico" are already developing contingency plans, so hypothetical plans for what they would do in the potentially unprecedented situation that the case i just told you about, the initial investigation, could lead to a criminal indictment of donald trump while he's down at mar-a-lago in florida. dania and joyce are back with us. our viewers, in this case our citizen jury may or may not have had a snack during the break. i don't know. i can't see through the television box. joyce, but whatever we did during the break, this was the big story i wanted to ask you about. specifically anyone could imagine a hypothetical where they would say, oh, you paid for money for a friend or a friend's family for something nice, school or whatever. that's okay. r

. >> trump doesn't care about anybody, maybe ivanka. fernand, i'm so glad my team found this, i thought this was the most powerful piece of advertising not just in the 2016 election but frankly that i've seen maybe since i started doing politics and media. this was a little piece of an ad that its technical title is rebuilding america now but i call it the man of steel. i saw this all over tv in pennsylvania, in ohio, on local news, whenever i would travel there during the election in 2016. take a listen. >> we're going to be working again. we're going to have great jobs again. we're going to make america great again for everyone. greater than ever before. >> that was by a super pac. the thing about the messaging that's so simple and the opportunity, as susan just pointed out for biden, is he's shots and checks, right? he's getting you shots and he's getting you checks, it's the simplest working class message ever, i don't know why they're not running ads on that every day. the republicans are saying, do immigrants make you uncomfortabl

ivanka? will giuliani flip on trump? questions abound. what do you think? >> our view has always been when it comes to the entire sorted affair connected to the trump ukraine scandal as well as the trump presidency for that matter that no one is above the law, and at the end of the day investigative authority should just follow the facts, apply the law, be guided by the constitution and let the chips fall where they may and present the truth to the american people. it seems like rudolph giuliani, who by the way was a failed mayor, failed lawyer, failed presidential candidate and now may be on his way to becoming a convicted felon, is in the greatest jeopardy because it doesn't appear as though he complied with the lobbying registration laws in the process of him apparently lobbying on behalf of the ukrainian government perhaps to get the u.s. ambassador to ukraine fired because the ukrainian government was upset about her efforts at rooting out corruption in their country. that's where the jeopardy seems to be, but there was a den of thieves connected to 16

they've subpoenaed eric trump, i'm sure he's excited because he got to do something before don junior and ivanka once. time will tell what the results of that investigation are. but if i'm one of those people, the trumps, i've hired hopefully good counsel at this point and i would be pretty worried. >> i've got to tell you, i'm glad the camera wasn't on me when you talked about eric trump, i had to stifle a laugh, but understood. neal katyal, good to see are you are thank you very much. >>> four months in office, president biden's ambitious agenda is satisfying even some of his most skeptical progressives. what do americans think of his overall performance so far? te. (brother) there's a road right there. (brother) that's a cat. wait, just hold madi's headpiece. (sister) no. seriously? (brother) his name is whiskers. (bride) what happened to you? whose cat is that? (brother) it's a long story. (sister) oh my gosh. (farmer) whiskers! there you are! (avo) the subaru crosstrek. the adventurous s-u-v for adventurous people. love. it's what makes subaru, subaru. wanna grab pizza? bad move, guys! get

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trump for a really long time. would he flip on his own children, his accountant, including ivanka, too?anka, and i would put an undoubtedly next to everybody else. >> wow. >> i just think, you know, loyalty is a one-way street in trumplandia. it flows towards donald trump and it does not go in any other direction. he does not have emotional bonds with people. he has financial bonds with people. and if everyone around him now has to debate whether or not they want to face a criminal charge and the possibility of going to prison or getting a larger salary next year from donald, i think they're going to choose to rat out donald the first chance they get. and i think that's why it's so significant that allen weisselberg is now under a criminal investigation, because it breaks open this huge crack in the facade of the trump organization. >> wow. let me tell you one more piece of what michael cohen said to me last night about mr. weisselberg's role in the company. take a listen. >> allen weisselberg knew every single dollar in and every single dollar -- not even dollar, to the penny, every si

what about the possibility that donald trump is actually named in these communications, or don junior or jared or ivankaeverything else they're going to be able to find on those communication devices is just icing on the cake. >> giuliani has not been charged with any wrongdoing. joining me now to discuss it all, glenn kirschner, msnbc legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. i'm curious what you make of this. should anyone besides rudy giuliani be concerned about this investigation? >> you know, i think so, alex, because we've heard a lot about rudy giuliani's home, office, and electronic devices being searched by fbi agents pursuant to a federal judge issuing a search warrant because there was probable cause to believe a crime had been committed and there was evidence of crime in rudy giuliani's home, office, and electronic devices. so now the next question becomes what information might those search warrants yield. we've already heard rudy giuliani on the talking circuit say this is an illegal search warrant. well, a federal judge who issued it would beg to differ. we've heard rudy giuliani compl

trump will say oh, that's eric's job and i didn't know anything about that. >> seriously, the fact that one of the things we know they looked into is consulting payments to his daughter, ivanka, may have been unkosher in some way to disguise for sales tax purposes. if that's one of the things the company is going to potentially get in trouble for who do you cut-off at that point to save yourself if one of your financial schemes benefited one of your kids. what do the kids have to fear? >> it is a year of defending trump. it is a question of whether he'll become a criminal defendant in georgia or new york. >> yeah, man. thank you, my friend. >> thank you, rachel. >>> now there are three. three criminal investigations of donald trump. one in georgia for potential violation of election law and two in new york by the manhattan district attorney and attorney general of the state of new york. 24 hours ago, it was breaking news that the new york state attorney general is conducting an investigation of donald trump and his businesses but it was not breaking news to donald trump. the notice from the attorney general's office was sent in late april to attorneys for r the trump organiz

ivanka was sort of involved in starting up hotels and sort of designing it and presenting hotels. trump'sof these investigations. don jr. was off doing i don't know what, but he doesn't seem to have been involved in the business enough to get drawn into this. eric, however, was. eric has been questioned because he was a liaison between the trump organization and appraisers in at least one transaction that is under the microscope now. trump owns an estate called seven springs in westchester county, new york. trump has it in conservation. he said i won't develop this land but i want a big tax value for forgoing the development. he got a $21 million tax break. and the ag or d.a. are saying well, did you lie to somebody? did you inflate the value of your land or tell about the planning permissions you had that really didn't. and eric was the person sending emails, making the contacts there. he seems to be in the middle of a e-transaction. >> the most exposure there possibly when it comes to the children. david farenthold, harry litman, thank you so much. that wraps up the hour from me. i'm ya

he will blame ivanka, don jr., eric, the accountant, calamari, me, anybody else. because the two things that donald trump fears and fears most is, number one, losing his company, losing his money and the second is losing his freedom and he will do everything that he can to make sure that that doesn't happen. so i wouldn't be shocked if he would speak to prosecutors before anybody else. >> well, you mentioned that he's going to go and say it wasn't me, classic shaggy defense. barbara was with us as well. take a look at what she says. >> i think weisselberg is very concerned about his kids. i think that what they're doing is the kind of thing that they did with flynn. do you remember his kid and then he turned or he caved or whatever. and weisselberg won't let his children go to jail. >> how does that square with your view that it could be multiple people racing to the point at each other? >> well, i had said that prior to barbara's comments, which is that he does not want to spend the golden years of his life incarcerated. on top of that, he has his two sons that he managed to get involved with the trump

ivanka, don, jr., eric, the accountant, weisselberg, me. he'll blame anybody else other than to accept responsibility. >> andrew, donald trump may well throw his own kids under the bus. i wouldn't be surprised if he did that, but the question is if you're prosecuting this case would you go after anyone but donald trump? he's the big fish here, right? the biggest fish of all. >> he is, but you obviously have to wait and see where the facts lead you. one thing important for people to know is senior people are entitled to rely on accountants and lawyers if they are misled or led to believe what they were doing was not criminal because their lawyer signed off on it, not as part of a conspiracy but legitimately signed off on it, the accountant signed off on it. that is not blaming other people. that is legitimate defense. if you're a criminal prosecutor what you need to be able to show is either the lawyer or accountants did not know the full set of facts so what they were signing off on is not the deal the ceo understood or this is all part of one huge conspiracy. but this is standard operating procedure for the ceos who are trying to avoid re