[music] hello, i'm ivette torres, and welcome to another addition of the road to recovery . today, we'll be talking about obtaining and retaining employment for people in recovery. joining us in our panel today are david berns, director, district of columbia department of human services, washington, dc; dr. gary bond, professor of psychiatry, dartmouth psychiatric research center, lebanon, new hampshire; peggy burns, eap counselor, employee assistance program, university of maryland medical system, baltimore city, maryland; neli vasquez-rowland, president, a safe haven, chicago, illinois. of those individuals that are unemployed, there was about a 15.7 percent rate of drug dependency among them. of the ones that are employed with a drug dependency, there were 23.3 million people overall, and about 49.8 percent of them were employed. and from the mental health community, there were 6 million people who were served by mental health authorities across the nation, and roughly 21 percent, or about, of the 6 million, were employed. what does that tell us? what types of challenges,