you're wondering about what i'm doing or bitching about when i'm not on air follow me on twitter at ivy martin and for now i'll let you take a break from my preaching but stay tuned for the good of the bad when we highlight our hero and villain of the day next. mr. now if you happen to catch m s n b c's up with chris hayes on sunday you might have seen a panel discussion recapping the d.n.c. actually i was blown away with what one panelist had to say about obama's foreign policy and d.n.c. rhetoric so let's take a look at that clip. from the good to hear him a message you see about foreign policy or the convention felt like we were watching obama for america meet up not an actual serious critique of this president's most egregious asses foreign policy where you do see that of the republicans there's all of this going after romney and i think it's completely legitimate but some of the core issues of this president's national foreign policy national security policy are not being debated loves jeremy scahill foreign policy writer for the nation who also exposed blackwater's sordid misconduct econ

martin. but the president, to get your viewers up to date, just spent about two hours over on ivy street, justthe democratic national committee headquarters doing some debate prep. we can presume that john kerry was there. let's look at john kerry's experience in this kind of setting. just go beyond the 2004 debates with then-president bush when john kerry was the democratic challenger. he had a series of debates way back in 1996 when he was a sitting senator with another republican governor of massachusetts who was trying to unseat kerry. his name was bill well. they had three debates actually that were epic in scale. so john kerry is clearly battle tested. the president is going to go to ground. he's had some fund-raisers. he just finished one. he's on his way to senator jay rockefeller's house but on sunday he heads to hend henders nevada. they don't want to be in d.c. for this debate camp as we're calling it around here. training at altitude in nevada, preparing for wednesday night in denver when so much is on the line, martin. >> sounds like a boxing match. nbc's mike viqueira, thank you,