already in young people system, people getting pushedd out of their jobs are being represented iwere beingrepresens much as they are in the world. i was hoping that you could give me some evidence of where it's working and who is making it work and especially how it is working for people that are not already sitting at the table having these jobs. >> we were talking about the gatekeeping meaning they need ti find agents who find them good homes and houses as opposed to trying to approach publishers themselves i go off on their own thing. so that was a rather specific part of the business. if you want to talk about the changing demographics i think that is an entirely different issue.in >> the number of people that have editorial jobs is very lowj and i think all of us are aware of it. look at this stage full of white people and what we can do is be aware of our own biases and try to overcome. >> publishing is open to all sorts of voices and certainly i represent writers of color and talking about gender and all sorts of things. i think most publishing houses and agents are all open to this and try