iyway, long story short, became pretty disenchanted with the whole process -- not the thee process, but reagan -- party and ofgan really had a way hisacting, certainly me, to philosophy, to who he was, to what he believed in, to his love of this country and i decided i would make both political parties happy and party anddemocrat join the republican party. steve: you were a boy scout and scout.e what was your service project? secretary perry: interestingly, they didn'told guy, have service projects. those started either in the late 1960's or early 1970's. so -- but my son's an eagle his eagle project was identified and fingerprinted every child in our church. it, that's aut very good service because most children are not fingerprinted. forbid, an, god abduction or a child gets lost, photo i.d. and fingerprints, you have that ability to be able to identify them. that was his eagle project. steve: how did you meet your wife? secretary perry: my wife and i grew up -- she grew up in the 16n of haskell which is miles from paint creek which is the community where i grew up. her dad was the lo