j. carty the president and the treasury secretary and president every time they make that absolutely obnoxious intellectually dishonest and factually incorrect statement spicule nailed it by realizing the difference between math majors or finance or journalism majors lou: don't go too far. [laughter] >> but i sat down with some reporters today and walked them through the debt service through 2014 projecting237 billion. divide that by 12 months. lou: you should have done the math for them. it isbout $35 billion of interest payments it even they can understand when you have 300 million coming in aboutt 10 / one ratio of revenue for interest expense >> this is deadly serious. lou: but there really is not i will challenge you. this is not serious in this sample is perverted will and twisted political objectives on the part of washington d.c. that does not even include with itspecterr3 the well-being of the taxpaying citizen >> is deadly serious when you have any administration and political party that for political gain is willing to talk down the economy and credit rating when pulling out a simpl