j. davis and associates. it's always been entertaining. it's been exciting. most important for me, even though i've been doing this sort of thing more or less for 30 years has been highly instructive. from lanny, i learned a great deal. he's a master at what he does. the trick is to figure out what it is he is doing. [laughter] it usually comes right in the end. i would say that the kind of instruction that i've taken at his hand has been to my enormous benefit and also to the clients. he has a unique gift for getting all of the external stuff and finding the nut of the problem, which is how you get to the solution. what lanny does, crisis communications, calls it strategic advice, and i call it simply problem solving of the highest order, and problem solving admits of no party, no ideology, you got someone in trouble or about to be, and you try to remedy that. many of lanny's exploits are well known. i think his best are not. i think the best work he's done is the stuff you never see in the papers. if, on the other hand, you end up in one of his books -- [la

j. davis and associates, lanny davis. >> thank you for that great introduction!, oddly, like 1999 again. he is the author of "crisis tales." also joining the table nbc senior investigative correspondent lisa myers. cokie, lanny was going to come on and talk about what the administration should have done, how they should have done it and, of course, going to say that no clinton was involved in anything, that could be criticized. but the jonathan karl this morning, talk about it briefly. >> it shows us that the state department certainly was involved in changing the talking points that came on ben ghazi, that the white house insisted came straight from the cia and was only the intelligence community involved in. >> so, lisa, this isn't surprising to you, right? you had heard that there were e-mails out there that were going to pull the state department in and you suspect there may be more like this? >> i do. i suspect now that -- the fact that john boehner, speaker boehner has now said that he will allow the chairman in the house to issue subpoenas is a big step in

j. davis have been indicted in the u.s. so far, there's been no request for extradition.nyone committing a crime, if it is a physical crime or a crime on the internet, potentially a global -- using global assistance or infrastructure abroad, using proxies' to hide their identity -- that will be investigated. they will be arrested, and they will be prosecuted. >> when you look at groups like anonymous or lulzsec, this is not our main enemy. yes, they broke the law. yes, they should be punished, but i am much more worried about organized criminal gangs from russia, from ukraine, from romania, from china, from brazil, gangs which are actually stealing money, gangs which are actually making millions with their attacks. >> do you have a message for people who might look at what you have done and in some way copycat that situation? >> i hope there have not been copycats. if you have that passion to do something and you have nothing else to do, try to find something beyond the front door rather than get