j. edgar hoover or as we call them in britain sergei hacker hoover because an unknown to most of the people in the united states we did a wartman on ariri night because he could be rather irritable. the only way of calming him down was to call him sir edgar hoover. we have never done that since because frankly no subsequent director of the fbi has been nearly as irritable. but, let's get him. he was the best ever to become-- so far as i know. he had translators qualifications in chinese. it is not easy getting to china in 1909. he had translator qualifications in russia and he spoke the more straightforward languages that's all of us speak. can talk about that, haven't got time. oh yes i related about this because peter a moment ago talked about stella rimington. well, gender historians in britain leave seriously the president on interesting lives so they have not noticed that the cutting edge in gender history is actually mi5 because britain is not noted as a place where the glass ceiling was cracked and broken at any point in the 20 a century but actually begin um at mi5. stella rimington