j. edgar hoover, president obama signed into law, legislation allowing a -- an fbi chief to remain at hisfor an extra two years. learn more about the j. edgar hoover, the fbi online at the c- span video library. search, watch, click, and a share. it is washington your way. >> that figure is moving the veil of ignorance from human understanding. it is sort of classical for what it is really all about. >> if you missed the latest documentary, the library of congress, there is a preview on right now. be aware of the latest videos we are posting and find out about other timely videos online at youtube.com/cspan. we now have an in hand ebook. 11 original c-span interviews with current and retired justices. it includes an interview with the newest supreme court justice, a elena kagan. you can watch multimedia clips from all of the justices. this is available now where evver ebooks are sold. " washington journal" continues. host: how did you vote? guest: yes. when you look at the options we had, and they were not all good ones, it was the best of the options. the greater risk of the country, the

j. edgar hoover himself and the last of the president's national security team still in his same job since 9/11. he's on his second president and is about to finish out his ten-year term this september, thept -- september 3, 2011. and what he has done is really remarkable. he's on the cover of "time" magazine this week which is one of the first times he's gotten any recognition for the work he's done sort of leading this evolution of the fbi towards an agency much more focused on counterterrorism and national security than a lot of the traditional crimes we still think of the fbi as being involved. in. >> this is what the book looks like, and this is a participatory interview. we'll put the phone numbers on the screen, and our twitter address is at booktv. so get involved with this discussion about the role of the fbi and national security, and we'd very much like to hear there you. first, a detailed question. the fbi director is a ten-year term. what was the thinking on that? >> guest: this was a decision congress made after hoover died in 1972. and hoover just had, as everyone knows, thi

j. edgar hoover, the fbi and robert muller on line at the c-span video library. search, watch, clip and share. is washington your way. >> about an hour ago or so the u.s. house passed the debt ceiling bill, the budget control act by a vote of 269-161. 95 democrats voted in favor of it. 66 republicans voted against th bill and theow houses wrapping p its work for the august recess. we will open up our phone lines in aa moment to get your thougs on the debate on capitol hill as the measure heads to the u.s.ou senate. they will pick itt of up tomorre 910 tog to 30 with a vote set fr noon and that will be on c-span2. the numbers are in your screen. republicans s 202-58-5385,ere a democrats (202)585-3886 and independents and othersoth havet (202)585-3887. asideud from some vote switching at the very end and parties voting in different ways, not an whole lot of drama about the final vote itself they require d decisions. a balanced budget amendment creates a moment we have to focus on the fiscal house. to force us into the tough decisions. itrotects future generations.

j. edgar hoover to swatching russian spies, all in our next guest's book "the secrets of the fbi." joining us, ronald kessler. if d.b. coop sir not the most compelling story, is there clearly another that is that story? >> the most astonishing thing in the book is, how the fbi breaks into homes and offices apds even embassies to plant bugging devices without getting caught and shot as burglar and equally astonishing, the fbi actually gave that to me, although the fbi director approved giving me that material, it's about 20% of the book and it's just so unbelievable. you wouldn't put it in a movie, because it's not believable. before they go into an embassy let's say or an office, they, or a mafia home, that's another example, they will do surveillance for weeks to find out who goes in, who goes out. on the night of the break-in, they have agents who watch anybody who might return. let's say they work in an office and are at home. they want to make sure they don't go back. if they do go back, they will divert them. they will stage a phony traffic accident. dress as police officers a

j. edgar hoover, trying to evict wait the surrender of pretty boy floyd. i thought that was an interesting post script about norris and always finding a way to get involved in public events. he had a series of health issues in the late '40s, couple of strokes, and a lot of the stuff he had built he sort of splintered off. he alienated a lot of peep around hem. by the time he died in 1952, several various splinter group. the group known as independent fundamental baptisted, called ifp, he is the first one of that particular group and they splintered into a lot of different ways. he died at a youth camp. he was speaking at a youth camp in florida in august of 1952,s' his body was flown back to fort worth, texas, and he is buried in greenwood cemetery, not far from where d. e. chips is buried as well. a little interesting closure to the story. anybody else with a question? >> how does carter figure in this? >> a famous name, what the publisher of the fort worth star telegram. was the president of the fort worth club. it was a big place for the shakers and mov

j. edgar hoover was in charge of the fbi. i am wondering about the changes after his death affected your work. guest: very dramatic changes. i came in 1969 under hoover -- old school, if you will -- where this idea of profiling did not even exist. host: did that change under hoover? guest: not really. he died in early 1970's, 1972, if i recall. but to be fair, to be honest, up profiling has been in existence ever since there was crime in an informal way because investigators show up and say, gee, who would do this? what we are trying to do is formalize this program, make a scientific, do research, and see how tight and discriminating a program which can develop. host: neil in fort lauderdale. caller: good morning, agent mccrary. i find what you do to be not only fascinating but absolutely essential to our well-being. your many years of experience, it begs the question -- when evidence is grossly lacking or sparse at best, how many times have you relied upon at a visceral, intuitive, gut feeling that lead you down the path to

j. edgar hoover g-men who carried the guns and made cases and arrests. the man who would eventually lead the criminal division, tom pickard, aggressively competed with o'neill for the attention of the director, louis freeh. as a former street agent himself, freeh identified with the criminal division, and tom pickard was a longtime friend. to reinvigorate the counterterrorism effort, o'neill would try to muscle his way through the bureaucracy that surrounded louis freeh. but in that struggle, o'neill's personal style got in the way. they said he was too intense, pushed too hard, had what they called "sharp elbows." >> we often talked and joked about the fact that we weren't really in the club and we really didn't care, and that was something that john and i had shared on occasion. and there is a difference between those people who spend time in an organization and are happy to make it to the top and have never rolled over a stone or created a problem or solved a problem, you know, just to carefully run through and be there and be promoted. john was not l

j. edgar hoover, trying to get the surrender of pretty boy floyd. i thought that was a good interesting little postscript about norris, he was always find a way to get involved in public events. he had a series of health issues in the late '40s, a couple of strokes, and a lot of the stuff he had built, he sort of splintered off, he did a lot of people around him. by the time he died in 1952, several various splinter groups. he is the first one of that particular group and the splintered into a lot of different ways. he died at a youth can't. he was speaking at a youth camp in florida in august of 1952. and his body was flown back to fort worth, texas, and is buried in greed would cemetery not far from where d. e. chipps is buried as well. anybody else with the question? [inaudible] >> carter, a very famous name, people from dallas-fort worth was apologize for worth star-telegram was a present of the fort worth club. the fort worth club was a big place for the movers and shakers, what i would call -- he was the president of the club. he was one of th

j. edgar hoover, the f.b.i., and robert mueller online at the c-span video library. search, watch, clip, and share. it's washington your way. >> that figure that's moving the veil of ignorance from human understanding, that's an american invention. it's sort of classical for what it really is all about. >> if you missed the latest documentary, "the library of congress," there's a preview right now c-span's youtube channel. become a subscriber. it's free. be notified of all the latest videos poor posting, and watching the entire library of congress documentary and hundreds of other timely videos online at youtube.com/cspan. with titles like "flander" "godless," "guilty," and demonic," ann coulter has something to say. subpoenaed, your chance to talk to, email, and tweet the "new york times" best seling author and columnist, "in depth" live on book tv on c-span2. the supreme court is now available as a standard and enhanced e-book and tells the story of the court throughout eyes of the justices themselves. 11 original c-span interviews with current and retired justices

j. edgar hoover who created the fbi and made it into the world's most admired agency, there were massive abuses. the fbi engaged in political surveillance often at the direction of presidents. they were wiretapping. there were illegal break-ins. you would develop what mail files on members of congress and the president. i document that. a lot of formal agents -- former agents will say it is a myth. it is not a myth. the former head of the washington field office of the fbi says that is exactly what they did. we need to be vigilant about the fbi and government. no actual abuses been found since the hoover days. there has been sloppiness and mistakes. i go into some of those in the book, but no actual abuse. host: we're talking to ron kessler about the tactical operations unit. our focus this week is looking inside the fbi. mr. kessler said the budget might be around $40 million. we do not know exactly what the budget is for this unit. the fbi budget request overall for the agency for 2012 was about $8.1 billion. in fy 2011, the budget is broken down among the different departments. we did

j. edgar hoover was in charge of the fbi. i am wondering about the changes after his death affected your work. guest: very dramatic changes. i came in 1969 under hoover -- old school, if you will -- where this idea of profiling did not even exist. host: did that change under hoover? guest: not really. he died in early 1970's, 1972, if i recall. but to be fair, to be honest, up profiling has been in existence ever since there was crime in an informal way because investigators show up and say, gee, who would do this? what we are trying to do is formalize this program, make a scientific, do research, and see how tight and discriminating a program which can develop. host: neil in fort lauderdale. caller: good morning, agent mccrary. i find what you do to be not only fascinating but absolutely essential to our well-being. your many years of experience, it begs the question -- when evidence is grossly lacking or sparse at best, how many times have you relied upon at a visceral, intuitive, gut feeling that lead you down the path to s

j. edgar hoover who created the fbi and made it into the world's most admired agency, there were massive abuses. the fbi engaged in political surveillance often at the direction of presidents. they were wiretapping. there were illegal break-ins. you would develop what mail files on members of congress and the president. i document that. a lot of formal agents -- former agents will say it is a myth. it is not a myth. the former head of the washington field office of the fbi says that is exactly what they did. we need to be vigilant about the fbi and government. no actual abuses been found since the hoover days. there has been sloppiness and mistakes. i go into some of those in the book, but no actual abuse. host: we're talking to ron kessler about the tactical operations unit. our focus this week is looking inside the fbi. mr. kessler said the budget might be around $40 million. we do not know exactly what the budget is for this unit. the fbi budget request overall for the agency for 2012 was about $8.1 billion. in fy 2011, the budget is broken down among the different departments. we did

j. edgar hoover did and nixon did as president and others. >> matt apuzzo, thank you so much.usions. thanks a lot. >> thanks a lot for having me. >>> up next, "business before the bell" with simon hobbs. "morning joe" will be right back. announcer ] anan anthis...is the netwo. a living, breathing intelligence that's helping drive the future of business. in here, inventory can be taught to learn. ♪ machines have a voice. ♪ medical history follows you. it's the at&t network -- a network of possibilities... committed to delivering the most advanced mobile broadband experience to help move business... forward. ♪ the 3.6-liter v6 engine of the jeep grand cherokee has a best-in-class driving range of over 500 miles per tank. so you can catch morning tee time in monterey and the afternoon meeting in los angeles, all without running out of gas. just make sure you don't run out of gas. ♪ ♪ >>> the white house announcing a new plan that would streamline regulations across hundreds of government departments over the next five years. the 800-page report will revise 500 regulations and wil

j edgar hoover, the ambitious head of the fbi, was out to destroy general donovan's reputation, who reviewed as a threat to his espionage empire. donovan started burning the oss records of his former personnel. knowing that many of them, like jane and paul, had been left of center. julia and paul's poignant alerts capture their atmosphere of fear and paranoia that permeated their small diplomatic circle. julia considered mccarthy to be a desperate powermonger and viewed his intimidation was destroying a country she loved. i'm terribly worried about mccarthyism she wrote her friend in 1954. what can i do as an individual? it's frightening. i'm ready to bare my breast, small sitessed though hey they may be. will sacrifice cats, cookbooks, husbands, and finally, self. inevidently, jane foster and paul childs became caught in the buzz saw of mccarthy's red spy hunt. on april 7, 1955, paul received an urgent telegram summoning him to washington. their old friend, the reckless and pam flint jane -- flamboyant friend jane faster was being arrested as an spy. when she was arrested in paris, the auth

j edgar hoover, the ambitious head of the fbi, was out to destroy general donovan's reputation, who reviewed as a threat to his espionage empire. donovan started burning the oss records of his former personnel. knowing that many of them, like jane and paul, had been left of center. julia and paul's poignant alerts capture their atmosphere of fear and paranoia that permeated their small diplomatic circle. julia considered mccarthy to be a desperate powermonger and viewed his intimidation was destroying a country she loved. i'm terribly worried about mccarthyism she wrote her friend in 1954. what can i do as an individual? it's frightening. i'm ready to bare my breast, small sitessed though hey they may be. will sacrifice cats, cookbooks, husbands, and finally, self. inevidently, jane foster and paul childs became caught in the buzz saw of mccarthy's red spy hunt. on april 7, 1955, paul received an urgent telegram summoning him to washington. their old friend, the reckless and pam flint jane -- flamboyant friend jane faster was being arrested as an spy. when she was arrested in paris, the auth

j. edgar hoover in 1972, congress approved and president obama signed into law legislation allowing fbi chief robert mueller to remain in his post an extra two years. congress limited terms to ten years after hoover left the fbi in '48. learn more about it at the c-span video library. search, watch, clip and share. it's washington your way. >>> that figure that's removing the veil of ignorance from human understanding that's an american invention. that's not a classical statute, but it's sort of classical for what it really is all about. >> if you missed c-span's latest documentary, "the library of congress," there's a preview right now on c-span's youtube channel. become a subscriber it's free. be notified of all the videos we're posting and watch hundreds of other timely videos online at youtube.com/c-span. >>> next, current and former british newspaper editors discuss the recent phone hacking scandal in the u.k. and the future of the british newspaper industry. panelists discuss the influence of rupert murdoch's media holdings in the u.k., media and internet regulation and the relati

j. edgar hoover was in charge of the fbi.e changes after his death affected your work. guest: very dramatic changes. i came in 1969 under hoover -- old school, if you will -- where this idea of profiling did not even exist. host: did that change under hoover? guest: not really. he died in early 1970's, 1972, if i recall. but to be fair, to be honest, up profiling has been in existence ever since there was crime in an informal way because investigators show up and say, gee, who would do this? what we are trying to do is formalizthis program, make a scientific, do research, and see how tit and discriminating a program which can develop. host: neil in fort lauderdale. caller: good morning, agent mccrary. i find wt you do to be not only fascinating but absolutely essential to our well-being. your many years of experience, it begs the question -- when evidence is grossly lacking or sparse at best, how many times have you relied upon at a visceral, intuitive, gut feeling that lead you down the path to success? guest: well, this cer