j. edgar hoover head of the fbi for decades at that point, j. gar hoover in many ways hated the civil rights movement, and hated dr. martin luther king in particular. he was convinced the entire movement was a communist front manipulated by russia to overthrow the united states of america. david korn at mother jones magazine published a reminder that two days after the march on washington, two days after the i have a dream speech, the fbi circulated a memo summing up their reaction to the event and how they plan to respond to it. tim winer turned this up for his fbi history. the fbi memo two days after the speech said, in the light of king's powerful demogoging speech, we must mark him now, if we have not done so before, as the most dangerous negro of the future in this nation, from the standpoint of communism, the negro and national security. that memo, the most dangerous negro memo was circulated all over washington, capitol hill to the white house. official washington's view of martin luther king, especially after the i have a dream speech, he

j. edgar" hoover. he asked all of the questions. and the transcript of this was provided to jack anderson. that's how it was stopped. and hoover was planning to give it to anderson? >> no. no anderson was going to go with the story. jack around sob the column nist. he was the going -- put the photographer down there and i'm going ask him. he was working for anderson at the time, i believe. i want to meet with you as a group. the president said i want to get to the bottom of this, job. john comes up with an idea how to get to the bottom. he brings j. edgar hoover over and doing the instigating of the questions. what the relationships were. just -- i should have mentioned this before. what happens is jack anderson is about to go with the story that -- they are having sex with each other. >> host: bob is the chief of staff and have young california guys, and it's a homosexual ring. they all have huts -- little cab cabins near each other. that's the story. i had never heard it. and the fact that j. edgar decides the way to determine whe

j. edgar hoover, starting with j. edgar hoover. now this is a credible. those of you who are watching tonight go. in the upper left corner you will see the you can download this. this is how manipulative and brilliant the was. 1962. we're going to get there. and he gives j. edgar hoover the entire mafia playbook. the mafia commission down to the level of captain to all the names. he gives them the secret induction ceremony, punishable by death. it is to give it to? the director. you go back and look at the memo , that's the director. there was only one of the director, and it was hoover. as you know, those of you are old enough, in 1963, a lot before the kennedy assassination , the national tv audience was shocked to hear the revelations of the sky. he was a soldier in the genevese crime family, and he is believed to be the first turn go in the history of the mob. you read any mafia history and there will tell you joe volos you sang for that mcclellan committee. these elaborate charts. he listed all the members of the family. a lot of people, this incredi

j. edgar hoover, carried a great weight. and the president felt he had great reasons to be concerned. there were a large contingent of national guards and forces on the ready in the periphery waiting to move at any moment of provocation. much to everybody's delight, especially the president of the united states which is one of the most beautiful days in the american experience. and at the end, not only did john kennedy praise dr. king for his speech, but felt very proud of the fact that that which he was most anxious about was laid aside. that america had spoken to the best of its image, and i think that j. edgar hoover really went into a decline that continued to expedite itself deeper into the rest of his life. he was a cruel man, and he wanted very much to undermine our cause. he did much with the bauer oh to infiltrate our community groups, to infiltrate our churches, to identify people as enemies of the communist conspiracy and all those things which carried weight. but we proved him wrong. and that was one of america's great moment. >> and of course he spied on the kings themsel

j. edgar hoover. this is on my website. go to peter lance.com. this is brilliant. 1962 before we get there. he gives j. edgar hoover the entire playbook down to the level of capt. all the gate up -- all the names that induction in the ceremony punishable by death he gives it to the director. that is the director. there was only one and it was hoover. as you know, in 19631 month before the kennedy assassination the national tv audience will hear about the soldier of the crime family and is believed to be the first six turncoat they will tell you joe you see him here and these elaborate charts for us that he listed all the members of the family a york reporter wrote the book by families when he wrote his book he speculated what he testified to he did not know. he was the knuckled robert. he speculated that the box level where does he get his information? it was through legal wiretaps hoover which using throughout the country to feed that information. no. i got the same thing until i read the 1,153 pages that was released under the freedom of integra

j. edgar hoover did, or the way the east german police did, as some people suggest, that's just not true woodruff: well we've been talking to a couple of former n.s.a. employees and one of thet its not just collecting this metadata on telephone conversations, its recording those conversations and its storing them and keeping them for possible future use. >> i think you're talking about mr. tice and mr. binney, mr. binney hasn't been at the agency since 2001, mr. tice hasn't been at the agency since 2005, they don't know what's going on inside the agency. >> woodruff: another allegation that we heard from them, from mr. tice, is that back before he left the n.s.a. in the early 2000s, that there was spying going on news organizations, on supreme court justices, on presidential candidates, on senator barack obama, and on military leaders, the top generals in the army. >> mr. tice was terminated from indicated, having to do with the period before 2005, eight years ago. they're just coming out now. i wonder why. the farther he gets from the period when he could have known what he was talking

j. edgar hoover speaks with our justice correspondent pete williams. >> reporter: robert mueller became fbi director a week before the september 11th terror attacks and doubled the number of agents assigned to terrorism. but some questioned the sting cases, people who have expressed only a desire to attack. >> i would ask a different question. how do you know when that person who harbors the intent to kill american citizens is going to move from harboring the intent to actually picking up a pistol and killing 13 people? >> i was looking at your picture in the lobby out here, and you have more gray hair now than you did when you became director. >> i'll also mention, so do you. >> all right, fair enough. >> reporter: he says it's been an intense 12 years and remembers the toughest times. >> the hardest days that you have are those when you lose an agent in the course of duty. >> reporter: and the moments of uncertainty, like the chaotic hours after the boston marathon bombing. >> the investigation had more twists and turns in that very short period of time than in many investigations. yo

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j. edgar hoover-- is retiring soon.he turned the agency into one of the country's main terrorist- fighting organizations. he was one week on the job when 9/11 happened. there were no other major attacks on the homeland during his tenure. but today, in his final the threat of another attack is interview as director, he said the threat of another attack is still there. here's bob orr. >> reporter: fbi director mueller today warned the al qaeda threat, which closed 19 u.s. diplomatic posts earlier this month, is still active. >> we're monitoring it very carefully and i want to make certain that, if it were postponed because of the actions that we were taking, that we're alert to the possibility that it's back on for action. >> reporter: this group, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula has tried to hit us before with the underwear bomb. >> yes. >> reporter: the printer bombs. do you expect they would try to hit us again? >> i would expect that, down the road, people would like to hit us. >> reporter: inside the secure command

j. edgar hoover speaks with our justice correspond enent pete williams. >> reporter: robert mueller becamebi director a week before the 9/11 attacks. some question the sting cases, some people expressing only a desire to adak. >> i ask, when do you know when that person who harbors an intent to harming citizens to picking up a pistol and killing 13 people. >> i was looking at your picture in the lobby and you have more gray hair now than when you became director. >> i'll also mention, so do you. >> all right, fair enough. >> reporter: he says it's been an intense 12 years and remembers the toughest times. >> the hardest days that you have are those when you lose an agent in the course of duty. >> reporter: and the moments of uncertainty, like the chaotic hours after the boston marathon bombing. >> the investigation had more twists and turns in that very short period of time than in many investigations. you were up in the air in terms of whether you were doing the right thing, making the right decisions. >> reporter: as for threats, mueller says threats remain high that terror groups might

j. edgar hoover, we have to turn on him. this is amazing stuff. but he is a leftist, he is the kind of got it put the president in office. liz: he is working on hugo chavez, a love story. e-mail lot of money off of the american system. billups fidel castro too. i don't like anyone demeaning the office of the presidency. charles: what about the president himself? liz: he the and it's a.about the president of viking protestors. charles: you wouldn't call the president a snake. >> i have said worse about this president. let me say the nsa scandal has made some strange bedfellows. people on the far left like oliver stone, libertarians like rand paul and staunch conservatives who believe the government is overstepping their bounds by surveying regular americans, parlaying intelligence interests in to criminal investigations with the d.a. and the irs. this is extra and aconstitutional. charles: this hurt the president with young people tremendously. really odd. >> we can fight about obamacare all the time but when it comes to this privacy issue, we are

j. edgar hoover is buried there. just down the way from j. ave is the grave of his paramour, his lover, allegedly, clyde tollson. >> allegedly the same way jfk and marilyn monroe -- >> bill: congressional cemetery. put it on your list the next time you come down. and maybe run into a goat while you're there. president obama back in the white house, not for very long. what's his agenda? what's he working on these days? rebecca cinder brand from politico is a deputy white house editor joining us on our news line this morning. hi, rebecca, how is it going? >> good. >> bill: president obama on his west coast swing. phoenix and then in california. the focus on housing and what was the president's message, reb be eka? >> kind of interesting. we heard more about the president's agenda on housing and the interesting part isn't just what he had to say. it is when he had to say it which is right now. obviously there are a lot of democratic groups out there. he's pressed the administration to get more involved during the actual housing crisis. the propos

j. edgar hoover, head of the fbi, began wiretapping dr. king's phone.r after the march, just 10% of whites said mass demonstrations helped the cause of racial equality. and 81% of whites said demonstrations hurt the cause. history did not render its verdict on the march on washington overnight. it would take time, decades even, before the full meaning of the march became clear. joining me now is david ga rerks ll, he won the pulitzer prize on the book "bearing the cross." and gary young, nation author whose new book is called "the speech: the story behind martin luther king's dream." thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> david, we celebrate the march on washington, but tell us about the criticism. what was the reaction some might not have heard of? >> it's a tribute to the voting rights act of 1965, reverend that the sort of southern white segregationist opinion captured so powerfully in that old footage has virtually disappeared from american politics. and indeed virtually disappeared from american politics by the time t

j. edgar hoover. be there until next monday. >>> 12 california health insurance companies have signed contracts to offer coverage under the new affordable care act. they will offer individual plans starting in october. the coverage will be offered through california's new insurance exchange. the list includes california's largest insures, anthem bluecross blueshield, kaiser permanente and the contra costa health plan. >>> the national rifle association is launching a new battle against california. >> reporter: this avid sportsman says he prefers lead bullets when he's at a shooting competition. >> they're about the same size, but a golf ball is denser. >> reporter: the national rifle association says hunters should be able to use whatever ammo they want. >> it's very dramatic. >> reporter: this bald eagle has lead poisoning. scientists estimate hunters shoot more than 3,000 tons of lead every year and that as many as 20 million birds die annually from lead poisoning. >> the damage that happens in the

j. edgar hoover, composer, john phillip sousa. >>> uncle sam wants to help you diversify your neighborhoodwhether you like it or not. doug mcelway talks about a new interactive effort some say is a huge overreach. >> i think when you spread the the wealth around, it is good. >> reporter: five years since those words, housing and urban development has a new federal rule that gives them meaning, furthering fair housing. it will require the feds to gather data on segregation and discrimination in every single american enabled and remedy it. >> in too many of our hardest-hit communities, no matter how hard a child or her parents work, no matter that child's potential, the life chances of that child, even her life span, is determined by the zip code she grows up in. >> reporter: data from the discrimination database will be used with zoning laws, house financing, infrastructure planning and transportation, to alleviate segregation, specifics are lacking. the rule does not prescribe or enforce specific local or public housing authority policies. one critic says it smacks of utopian ideals. >> st

j. edgar hoover, head of the fbi, began wiretapping dr. king's phone.the march, just 10% of whites said mass demonstrations helped the cause of racial equality. and 81% of whites said demonstrations hurt the cause. history did not render its verdict on the march on washington overnight. it would take time, decades even, before the full meaning of the march became clear. joining me now is david ga rerks ll, he won the pulitzer prize on the book "bearing the cross." and gary young, nation author whose new book is called "the speech: the story behind martin luther king's dream." thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> david, we celebrate the march on washington, but tell us about the criticism. what was the reaction some might not have heard of? >> it's a tribute to the voting rights act of 1965, reverend that the sort of southern white segregationist opinion captured so powerfully in that old footage has virtually disappeared from american politics. and indeed virtually disappeared from american politics by the time that pres

j. edgar hoover, if we had the nsa system we have, then when one of the 9/11 terrorists made a phone callwe would have found the conspiracy. >> all the complaints was nobody did this. they didn't connect the dots. there is support for it. but it is a problem. the president says michelle would have to trust me, right? and he had said earlier, if you don't trust me, trust me and the congress and the courts. well you know what, people don't in and that's the bottom line problem, and that becomes a problem for the president in everything that he's doing, because he believes in government, and he believes in big government. and to have people not trusting the governments on any level becomes a big problem for him. >> one of the things that's happened. and there's clear frustration inside the white house of the revelations about things they didn't know and the mistakes that had been made. but there is a shift in public opinion. i think you're right. public has not tipped in the side of civil liberties versus security. but there is an erosion, and i think that what this has -- what this has done

j. edgar hooverized. you are someone who works in both spheres. you guys sued new york on this lawsuit over stop and frisk and are also suing the federal government over surveillance. do you see these with each other? to you see them connected? >> they're not in tension with each other legally at all. in fact, one way to think about the broad scope here is to look at what the government had been doing since 9/11. they take the largest number of people and try to do preventative policing. preventing spying. preventing militarization. massive groups of people. they don't look at what the human costs are. they're essentially trying to get the risk factor of bad things happening to zero through the policies. >> if that is the case, isn't that what they should be doing after 9/11, the old mentality is you wait for a crime to be committed, you prosecute it and goes in the national security sphere and policing sphere and new mentality that's brought crime down and prevented another big attack like 9/11, you stop them from happening in first place. >> you

j. edgar hoover had always felt that we would -- if given the opportunity we would treat them like we hadwas the case. that is one of the things about non-violence social change that we want to redeem the soul of america. we don't want to get even. we want to bring people together economically and socially. this movement was never about black people alone. it was black people in the south that suffered the most but what we saw here 50 years ago was we saw the movement becoming black and white and northern and southern and protestant, catholic, jew, and martin's speech reached out all over the world because the constitution says we are endowed by the creator, not by our government. >> did you know then as you were listening to that speech 50 years ago, because a lot of folks don't realize that the "washington post" the next day, that speech was not front page news. it was barely mentioned. that was not the only publication where that was the case. did you know they know as dr. king was giving that speech what an important part of america's history it would become? >> well, it really wasn't

j. edgar hoover had in his sights within a month and was starting to monitor him and surveil him.sons to learn. >> i'm convinced, i mean, i'm convinced that this is part of the difference in the racial reactions to the snowden and nsa, i grew up with the assumption that the government was listening, in part because i had, you know, parents and uncles who had been involved in the movement, and because of your point about hoover, the assumption was, it was an ongoing joke about everybody's fbi file and the idea that folks were listening. >> i said to harry belafontbelaf you ever forget the numerous conversations you had with dr. king, just apply them to the freedom of information act. >> exactly! >> if you forget them, don't worry. somebody's got a transcript. i appreciate so much all of you being here. before we go, i just want to listen, in case folks don't know, a. phillip randolph, if you've never had a chance to see him or hear him, when we come back, we're going to talk to some extraordinary foot soldiers. we've got some amazing people who have been doing work in newtown, conn

j. edgar hoover moment of listening in on wiretapping is a part of our moment.ay we can learn of that historic moment in our contemporary one? >> the civil rights movement was wrestling with the profoundest questions of how a democracy worked. nowadays, we have sound bites of answers and we're divided between two factions, each of whom said we would be perfect if the other half dropped dead. the civil rights movement didn't say that. they said, we should move together. the most common complaint is, why should we keep bringing this up. >> pause for one moment. we have mark morial of the national urban league speaking. >> i stand here to reaffirm our commitment to the civil rights and equal opportunities from then and now, and we must redeem the dream in order to realize the dream. we must redeem the dream, because there are those who have attacked our democracy, our voting rights, and our access to equal economic opportunity. they may wear different clothes, they may use different slogans, they may have different talking points, but like those in 1963, they filib

i think the ghosts of j edgar hoover and richard nixon have long been exercised, but they still have sustainable influence on things we are doing. technology has changed. authorities have changed. no big security problem that faces the united states can be solved by one of the national security agencies we have, acting alone. they are all things everybody has to participate in. you have to have a team. you have to have a mission. if we can get toward that over time, that would be good. >> thank you very much, both of you. [applause] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] >> that event, hosted by the aspen institute, was held last month. in a little more than an hour, we will have a live town hall on the nsa surveillance program, and its national influence on civil liberties. we will examine the white house decision to close several embassies based on intercepted intelligence. and the impact of the leak by edward snowden. analysts will join us to discuss the nsa program. we will also seek your comments, facebook

i think the ghosts of j edgar hoover and richard nixon have long been exercised, but they still have sustainable influence on things we are doing. technology has changed. authorities have changed. no big security problem that faces the united states can be solved by one of the national security agencies we have, acting alone. they are all things everybody has to participate in. you have to have a team. you have to have a mission. if we can get toward that over time, that would be good. >> thank you very much, both of you. national captioning institute] national able satellite corp. 2013] >> we've have more. in the meantime news this morning that president obama has canceled a planned one-on-one meeting with russian president putin. the white house recognized the lack of progress, also citing russiana's disappointing decision to grant temporary asylum to snowden. there has been reaction to his decision. senate armed services committee ranking member john mccain commented, remember, tell putin after my election, i have more flexibility. the president is in california today. last night

j. edgar hoover, we learned that during his entire tenure as director of our fbi he was collecting intelligenceata on some of the most civic minded citizens in this country. martin luther king, the kennedy family. intelligence gathering has been happening in the united states way before we had to deal with terrorism. the issue today is that with our place in the world order, and the importance of the united states and its allies, we know that there are extreme theocracies that operate in the middle east that have as their main purpose for being the evolving -- thwarting they evolving to markers and relationship we have with allies who watch -- who want to promote democracy as well. pallone: if i can explain what i'm saying in terms of how this should operate versus the way it operates now, you talked about a terrorist warning. if the agency had some inkling that this, for example, there was an al qaeda attack that was about to begin and was coming from pakistan or yemen, right, they could go to the fisa court and they could say, we had this investigation, we have this information and, therefore

j. edgar hoover had always felt that we would -- if given the opportunity we would treat them like we hadwas the case. that is one of the things about non-violence social change that we want to redeem the soul of america. we don't want to get even. we want to bring people together economically and socially. this movement was never about black people alone. it was black people in the south that suffered the most but what we saw here 50 years ago was we saw the movement becoming black and white and northern and southern and protestant, catholic, jew, and martin's speech reached out all over the world because the constitution says we are endowed by the creator, not by our government. >> did you know then as you were listening to that speech 50 years ago, because a lot of folks don't realize that the "washington post" the next day, that speech was not front page news. it was barely mentioned. that was not the only publication where that was the case. did you know they know as dr. king was giving that speech what an important part of america's history it would become? >> well, it really wasn't

j. edgar hoover biggest nightmare had happened, that was a collision between dr.king and brother malcolm. >> it's always difficult to come behind peter, and i -- but a couple of things for me. first, i was busy taking care people who are falling out from the heat. it was hot, and it was humid. and i was at a station where there was someone from the national guard. there was a d.c. policeman. in those days it was d.c. general hospital but there was an ambulance crew. we have cops, we had ice and water, and people were falling out like flies but i showed up. i think would set up by 9:00 in the morning so i was literally on my feet from 9:00 in the morning until about five in the afternoon. and it was nonstop with people falling out. the second thing, and here i probably have a different perspective, is that i had lived outside of the united states before this. i was one of those people, poor girl with a lot of dreams, but i was lucky. i got a scholarship and i lived in europe, where interestingly enough, i figure any place i wanted to go to problem that i had when i

j. edgar hoover's fbi. they had been known, and i have had perm experience of them -- personal experience of them putting in agent provocateurs in our demonstration to deliberately start trouble in order to discredit dr. king and discredit the civil rights movement. so that was a genuine concern of ours. and as marshals, our job was to keep an eye out for anybody who perhaps looked like they're starting some trouble, and if they did, to kind of surround them and get them out of there. so as my part was just to see that order was kept. >> one of the things we talked about before the panelist group started i'd like you to expand upon was the idea that many of the spark plugs behind the civil rights movement was led by college students. and we were talking a lot about the idea that i started my professional career in philadelphia, mississippi. and many may relate to that. the death of those three civil rights workers there. but you also relate the fact that there was many others all across the great state of m

j. edgar hoover, we learned he was collecting intelligence data on some of the most civicly minded citizensn this country, martin luther king, the kennedy family. intelligence gathering has been happening in the united states way before we had to deal with terrorism. the issue today is that with our place in the world's order and the importance of the united states and its allies. there are extreme theocracies that operate in the middle east that have as their main purpose thwarting democracy. >> what i am saying in terms of how this should operate, you talked about the terrorist warning. if the agency knew or had an inkling that there was an al qaeda attack that was about to begin and was coming from pakistan or yemen, they could go to the fisa court and they could say we have this investigation, we have this information, and therefore we need some surveillance to look at the actual situation in pakistan or yemen or the al qaeda operatives that are actually potentially planning this attack. that would be a specific investigation that they would be going before the court and ask for that au

j. edgar hoover's biggest nightmare had happened. the coalition between dr.ways difficult. a couple of things for me. the first, busy taking care of people who were falling out from the heat. it was hot. it was humid. i was at a station where there was someone from the national guard. there was a d.c. policeman. in those days it was general hospital. an ambulance crew. we had caught spivvy we add ice and water. and people were falling out like flies. i showed up. think we have set up by 9:00 in the morning. it was a nonstop with people falling out. the second thing, and you're probably have a different perspective is that i live outside of the united states before. i was one of those people, poor girl with a lot of dreams. i was lucky. i got a scholarship. i lived in europe where interestingly enough, i could go any place i wanted. there are aging imperialists to one to know what part of their respective empire was from. was in the uk. it won the no if i was from jamaica or someplace like that. of course being a typical american, i resented it. what i did hav