j. edgar hoover's ability to keep facts in the per view of j. edgar hoover that that is no what we think about now. professor vanden move and jim lehrer, thank you. that is "all in" for this evening and the rachel maddow show starts right now. >>> thanks the to you at home for joining us this hour, on an historic day in american politics. today really was a really, really, really big day. this is richard toronto. do not be distracted by his last name. he is not a mayor. he is not canadian. he has nothing to do with crack cocaine, nothing to do with canadian football, nothing to do with anything that looks anything like this. rather, richard toronto is a lawyer focused on intellectual property issues. he has had a very successful, very highfalutin legal career and he was nominated for a prestigious federal judgeship a couple of years ago, november 2011. he was nominated and then nothing.

j. edgar hoover at the fbi and around 1:25 east coast time. then it's only 20 or 30 mince later he gets this phone call from lbj. so little time had transpired. the fact that lyndon johnson, whom you studied now in four volumes, that lyndon johnson didn't -- he was focused on the continuity of government, the possibility of conspiracy, on big things but he also did not realize how that call would be received by bobby kennedy. his focus was so much on his own relationship with kennedye empathizing with what bobby kennedy would be feeling only a half hour after his brother had been killed. >> you don't really know what the human motives are that impelled lyndon johnson to make the call to robert kennedy. we don't really know what's in a man's mind. we only know this was a relationship where each man tried over and over to humiliate the other. when jack kennedy picks lyndon johnson as his vice presidential nominee three times that day robert kennedy comes down from the kennedy suite, which is 9333 in the biltmore hotel in los angeles to johnson's

since the 1930s, j edgar hoover was listening into all of the civil rights leaders. thought communism was behind it. the anti-vietnam war protest would've had informers all over it. the government has sealed this vacuum. so anything that is a protest movement will be subject to severe, severe penetration by the government. that is what you should fear. the civil rights may not have happened the way it happened. in other words, everything is positive for change that comes up in social life, we need change in our life, when those things happen, they will be able to happen because the government will be there to stamp down on it. tavis: who knows what kennedy would have done on vietnam? we can debate that for hours. what we do know is that john kerry, obama's secretary of state, fought in that war and, on "meet the press was quote, gregory tried to hit him to speak on a statement that he suggested that he doesn't believe that oswald acted alone. this thing is still being debated all these years later. is reasonable and looks at the evidence nose at the has to be at leas

a secret service man came up and said, "i need to call j edgar hoover and tell him the condition of the president", behind him was secret service saying, "i need to call joseph kennedy and tell him the condition of his son", i realised the whole world would find out kennedy was dead. >> in that moment jones faced a deliver. jackie kennedy asked doctors to delay the death pronouncement until after her husband received his last months. >> i told them he was not doing well. i knew he was dead. moments later a priest arrived. he said "if thou livest" close to the president's ear, and i could not here anything else. >> after that mrs. kennedy entered the room. >> she stood for a moment, self-contained and changed a ring from her finger to the president's finger and a ring from his finger to her finger. she leaned over and kissed his right foot and walked out. >> less than 40 hours later both doctors would be operating on a dying oswald. the men say they just did their jobs while history unfolded on the operating table. >> al jazeera america will have continuing coverage of the 50th anniversa

j. edgar hoover had information on everybody in congress and the white house. this now is information on them and everybody in the country. and everybody in the world, really. >> before edward snowden, there was william binney: a former senior official at the nsa who helped develop some of the early technology being used in the data collection programs. >> he says 9/11 was a turning point for the agency. he left his job just weeks after the attacks, and became a whistleblower. >> with 9/11 everything changed here. some of them said this is a gift to nsa and what it meant was now we can just about get any kind of budget we want and build our nsa so much larger and get so many more contracts and so much more money and do so many more things and that's exactly what they did. >> when you actually have even private conversations with members of the agency, what you hear is 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. >> general alexander, can you give the best argument for how these programs actually work to protect americans? 9/11. connecting the dots. we need p

j. edgar hoover's ability to keep facts in the per view of j. edgar hoover that that is no what we think about now. professor vanden move and jim lehrer, thank you. that is "all in" for this evening and the rachel maddow show starts right now. >>> thanks the to you at home for joining us this hour, on an historic day in american politics. today really was a really, really, really big day. this is richard toronto. do not be distracted by his last name. he is not a mayor. he is not canadian. he has nothing to do with crack cocaine, nothing to do with canadian football, nothing to do with anything that looks anything like this. rather, richard toronto is a lawyer focused on intellectual property issues. he has had a very successful, very highfalutin legal career and he was nominated for a prestigious federal judgeship a couple of years ago, november 2011. he was nominate ed and then nothing. nothing happened. republicans in the senate would not allow there to be a vote on his nomination. and beyond that, they insisted that there would have to be a s

j. edgar hoover. hoover thought donovan's organization was the biggestn' collection of the amateurs yet never seen.ateurse actually, in the beginning it was. hoover had is fbi spy onover donovan, collected a lot of information on him.em they spied on zero ss officers.f he had malls in donovan's organization. donovan's bynum hoover, had malls in hoover's organization. and i was doing research for the book are wondered when they had time to spy on the axis. they seemed to be spine in each other so much. the pentagon and first wanted no part of donovan's office ofgic v strategic services. george marshall thought that this was a plot by donovan toovn take over army and navy intelligence which, by the way,e that's exactly what he had in mind at the frequent roosevelt would have let him. h do so marshall eventually comes to accept donovan's zero ss, but his senior intelligence officers never do.elgenc income in fact, they fight his organization throughout the warh at one point is military thtelligence folks

j. edgar hoover did say that he considered them a success, and there was great possibility they could be reopened in the future. but church, who was a democrat from idaho, said that every presidential administration in the past be it republican or democrat had abused their power, and he said, quote, the nsa's capability at any time could be turned around on the american people, and no american would have any privacy left. if any dictator ever took over, the nsa woulden able it to impose -- would enable it to impose totally tyranny. and i don't think it's true, there's no way to fight back. we have choices we can make as consumers and, quite honestly, consumerism has brought us to a large degree to where we are right now. but i think that we've seen such failures of government officials who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution to really do their job that it, it's worth reminding us that as we the people, we are an important part of holding the government in check and making them do their job. so i think opt out is one possibility -- >> opt in. >> opt in. and what you said about t

j. edgar hoover was infamous in political circles in washington d.c. for his spying on and blackmailing of both american politicians and activists like for example the reverend dr martin luther king jr even sent king tapes of an extramarital affair and suggested the king should consider committing suicide it was a shameful period in american history and most americans think it's behind us. but the n.s.a. . other intelligence agencies and even local police departments have put the practice of spying on average citizens in america on steroids as brazil's president points out without privacy there can be no functioning democracy democracy requires opposing voices democracy requires a certain level of reasonable political conflict and it requires that government misdeeds be exposed that can only be done when whistleblowers and people committing acts of journalism can do so without being spied upon. perhaps the larger problem is that well over half some estimates run as much as as high as seventy percent of the n.s.a.'s budget has been outsourced to private

j. edgar hoover said back in '69 that they had had regular contact with jack ruby. >> david kaiser is a historian and author of "the road to dallas." >> he couldn't make the payoff. he was looking for help wherever he could get it. >> jack ruby made calls to individuals associated with organized crime. >> the report about ruby's sister, ruby got a phone call right at this time and went in the other room and threw up. maybe he got a phone call that said, ruby, we need you to do something for us. >> but mark lane insists the cia had the means and the motive to kill kennedy. >> the cia decided better him than us and killed him. >> following the disastrous attempt to topple castro in the bay of pigs invasion, the president was furious with the cia. >> this was a struggle of cuban patriots. >> castro's troops outnumbered the cia-backed operation. the president felt humiliated and promised to, quote, splinter the cia into 1,000 pieces. >> he already had plans to set up a new intelligence agency where robert kennedy was going to head this new vacancy. what robert kennedy didn't know when he fi

j. edgar hoover said as follows, at the outset i wish to emphasize the facts available to the fbi concerning the army of zero -- of prior to the assassination did not indicate in any way he was or would be a threat to president kennedy nor were they such as to suggest that the fbi should inform the secret service of his presence in dallas or his employment at the texas school book depository. hoover was not telling the truth. demille after the assassination hoover ordered the investigation to identify any deficiencies in the handling of the house of case. december 10 he receives a report from assistant director james p.m. this day that there were a number of failures in the house will security case. the report concluded, of salt should have been on the security index. should have been interviewed before the assassination, and the investigation intensified, not held in abeyance after oslo contacted the soviet embassy. 17x -- fbi employees censored or placed on probation for shortcomings with the investigation of oz all prior to the assassination. an action should be taken promptly despite the

j. edgar hoover. >> no, it isn't j. edgar hoover. resident hoover. >> former president hoover. and he calls himself -- he's stanford's first student. is that like first lady probably is what he means. >> no that would be j. edgar hoover in that case. inside joke. much more to come from guest host -- he's in "boardwalk empire" this season. >> president hoover? >> j. edgar as a very young man. do you watch? >> i saw a little piece of it the other day. >> you did? >> yeah, i did. >> you just jump in. >> i wasn't prepared. >> watching all along. >> we're going to get back to our distinguished fellow from stanford hoover, it's the hoover institute at stanford? >> the hoover institution. >>> anyway, coming up, the garden state is a gaming state. online gambling is now legal within new jersey borders, but not everybody is happy about it. an advocacy group to ban online gaming. up next, we'll talk to the co-chair of that group, former arkansas senator blanche lincoln. and later, the console wars thereon. we're also going to continue to watch

it is been going back to j edgar hoover when they eavesdrop on martin luther king, jr. and they blackmailed him. i was wondering if you could speak on that. thank you. guest: i do not know what your question is, exactly, but the nsa, which did not exist until 1952 -- the nsa has gone beyond what anyone realized. it's hard to believe a terrorist would call her up and say i am a terrorist, i thought you would i thought i would let you know that we are going to blow up a building. host: we make of the revelations overall of the work that the nsa is doing -- what do you make of the revelations overall of what the work that the nsa is doing? guest: the nsa is an important agency. it seems they have gone beyond what anyone suspected they could be doing. i do not think their collection of metadata is not over her, but logged. -- not overheard, but logged. that seems to be going beyond what is necessary. if they have a bad guy, they can put in for a warrant. they will get a warrant in almost every case to wiretap that person. they do not need to know that i was talking to my br

. >> the secret service men came up and said "i need to call j edgar hoover and tell him the position of the president", and secret service behind said, "i need to ring joseph kennedy and give them the news of their son", >> ronald jones faced a dilemma jaqueline kennedy asked the announcement to be delayed until after he received his last rights. >> i said he was not doing well, but he was dead. >> he said if thou live eth, i couldn't here him say anything else. >> after that mrs. kennedy entered the room and robert mcclelland witnessed her farewell to her husband. >> she stood for a moment, exchanging a ring from her finger to the president's finger and a ring from his finger and kissed his right foot and walked out. >> 48 hours later both doctors would be operating on a dying oswald. the men say they did their jobs while history unfolded on the operating table. >> tomorrow al jazeera america will be covering this story in dallas on the 50th anniversary of the john f. kennedy's assassination. >> mark morgan is back with more. >> seems like it will be interesting to see not only what

secret serviceman came up with a badge in his hand, and identifies himself and said i need to call j edgar hooverand right behind him was secret service, and they said i need to call joseph kennedy and tell him the condition of his son. and right then i realized that joseph kennedy is going to get bad news, the whole world was going to find out that kennedy was dead. >> but in that moment, jones faced a dilemma, jacqueline kennedy had asked doctors to delay the death pronouncement until after her husband received his last rights. >> i told him he was not doing well, but i knew he was dead. >> moments later a priest arrived. >> he said if thou livest, close to the president's left ear, then i couldn't hear him say anything else. >> after that, mrs. kennedy enters the room. mcleal lon witnessed her farewell to her husband. >> she stood there. very self-contained. stood there for a moment, and exchanged a wring from her finger to the president's finger. and a ring from his finger to her finger. and she leaned over and kissed his right foot, and then walked out of trauma room one. >>less than 48 hour

kennedy and the corruption between j edgar hoover and a cia cabinet member going on at the same time. president kennedy was trying to break down the secret organization and all the secrecy going on in the background. he was set up -- the next thing you know, the man was assassinated. it becomes history. guest: it may be that you have been watching oliver stone's movie, too often. my personal opinion is there was no conspiracy. that is not a popular opinion with some people. i have looked into it. i've read the warren commission. i've read books on it. that is just my personal opinion. we may never know the truth, but on the face of it, it appears it is what the majority of people think that there was a lone assassin. host: back to your piece in the "smithsonian." how did you come across this story? guest: i cannot talk about that. [laughter] a source in the intelligence business whispered to me about it. i was able to confirm all the details. i know a lot of people who are in that business or who had retired from that business. they know me. they trust my ability to try to get the fac

j. edgar hoover the fbi director had already decided within 24 hours of the assassination that also walled was the lone gunmen for many various reasons. that is what they wanted the commission to define. and the warre by warren commissn certainly didn't go to all of the trails while they were hot. that was i think the greatest weakness. they didn't know they were also being lied to. it's clear that the cia didn't tell them the truth about if following oswald or about the assassination plot against castro. the fbi and the cia never told their commission about the arrangements with the mafia. there were so many things that they didn't know. and they rushed to a conclusion. craig, what shocked me was 50 years after the warren commission, i could go to dallas, which i did come and interview people who were right in the daily class of the that e strong opinions and who saw things who were never, ever interviewed by the commission. it could happen because the commission was rushed and already knew what its conclusion was going to be. they simply disallowed information that contradicted it and i

j. edgar hoover. >> you could tell from the documents, significant investigation with priority.here that has information. >> reporter: is there a danger that the person who think she might be the stolen baby would say, "but i don't want to turn in my mother as a kidnapper?" >> it is. there's always that concern. but i would ask them to reach out to us, talk with us. >> reporter: would you actually prosecute 50 years later? >> that's the us attorney's office who would make that decision. but we definitely would follow up with them and see whether or not this could be prosecuted. >> reporter: law enforcement experts told us that once the age progression images were made public, we should be prepared for all kinds of people to come forward with their own sad tales. own reasons why they may be the grown up stolen baby. so far, four separate individuals have come forward, each of them 48 or 49 years old, the right age range. joel lang and his wife joni contacted us after they saw the age progression images on the abc news website. >> it's about as close as it's gonna get. it's shocki

j. edgar hoover the fbi director and others had already decided decided within 24 hours of the assassination that oswald was the lone guman for various reasons domestic and international. that is what they wanted the warren commission to find and the warren commission didn't go down all the trails while the trails were hot. that was the greatest weakness. they didn't know that they were also being lied to. it's clear that the cia did not tell them the truth about the assassination plots against castro. the f. via and the cia never told the commission about their arrangements with the mafia. there were so many things they didn't know and they rushed to a conclusion. craig what shocked me was 50 years after the warren commission i could go to dallas and interview people who were right at dealey plaza who had strong opinions, who saw things, who were never interviewed by the warren commission. >> host: how could that happen? >> guest: it could happen because it already knew what its conclusion was going to be. they simply disallowed information that contradict did it. i found pieces that didn't

j. edgar hoover writes to the warren commission in june 1964, right in the middle of the warren commissionestigation, in which he reveals that the fbi has learned that several weeks before the assassination, oswald, in mexico city, openly declared that he was going to kill president kennedy. what happened to that memo is a big debate among the warren commission staffers, because they never saw it. >> reporter: in the decade since the report was issued, sheehan and many others have been eager to measure the commission's sizable blind spots. at the time, the warren commission was considered beyond reproach, but critics complain nearly all of the members were inexperienced in investigations and many lacked security clearance. so when, say, the cia told them something, they sometimes just had the to take the agency's word for it. >> it was a more innocent time. people didn't know that so much would be hidden by these agencies of government. >> reporter: in 1976, post-watergate, congress re-investigated the kennedy assassination. a select committee concluded that the warren commission performed

j. edgar hoover had asked the fbi to conclude their investigation quickly and they did not share with theon everything. so when i stepped in as a very young legislative aide to congressman dodd back then, it was the expectation of the members of committee that we were entering with an open mind and that they would share everything with us. but it became very clear pretty rapidly that the old saying pulling teeth was sort of what our job was like. we would send questions over and it was hard to get answers back. we seemed to get the most rapid response from the fbi and the cia. when we had testimony before people coming before the kmity that were part of a large plethora of individuals who advocated one conspiracy theory or the other. they were very quick to debunk anything in that direction. >> you said at one point you got a phone call that at the very least unnerved you. >> it did. i'm a very judicious person. maybe that's because i'm a lawyer and tend to be conservative. but i was very young at the time and idealistic and got involved in public service in large part because of kennedy

j. edgar hoover was about to nail him for. how's that? but i did not set out, and i did not write a sensational book. the surprises are incredible enough, you know? and one of the things that surprised me is that if you read the letters and if you take them seriously, if you take it seriously, you all know that he had the back problems, and they were made worse with pt109 experience, is and he had the rites of the catholic church given to him at least three different times. but what is not as well known, he writes a letter when he's 35 years old saying to one of his friends, well, the doctors have told me i won't live past 45, so i better make the best of it. e had addison's disease, and he had it so badly that it is really problematic whether he would have lived through a second term. and it was a surprise to we to see this kind of documentation that was there. so that -- and it's wonderful when you find that. and it's great. if you don't go looking for the sensational. now, i don't know what's being held back in the kennedy papers, you

j. edgar hoover said as follows: at the outset i wish to emphasize that the facts available to the fbi concerning lee harvey oswald prior to the assassination did not indicate in any way that he was or would be a threat to president kennedy, nor were they such as to suggest that the fbi should inform the secret service of his presence in dallas or his employment at the texas school book depository, end quote. hoover was not telling the truth. immediately after the assassination, hoover ordered an investigation to identify any deficiencies in the handling of the oswald case. on december 10 he received a report from assistant director james gayle which stated that there were a number of failures in the oswald security case. the report concluded, quote: oswald should have been on the security index, his wife should have been interviewed before the assassination, and the investigation intensified, not held in advance after oswald contacted soviet embassy in mexico, end quote. gayle recommended that 17 fbi employees be censured or placed on probation for, quote, shortcomings in connection with the inv

j. edgar hoover, the fbi director and others had already decided within 24 hours of the assassination that was what was the lone gunman for various reasons, domestic and international law that is what it wanted the warren commission to find. the warren commission simply did not go down all the trails. that is, i think, the greatest weakness. it did not know that they were also being lied to. it is clear that the cia did not tell them the truth about its falling kozlov or about the assassination plots against castro. the fbi and the cia never told the commission about their arrangements with the mafia. there were so many things that they did not know. what shocked me was 50 years after the warren commission interviewing people who were riding the plaza. they saw things were never ever interviewed by that warren commission. i felt that my obligation to play out to people the pieces that don't fit into the warren commission report, a good example, when president kennedy was shot at 12:30 p.m. the palestine november 22nd 19631 minute many people were pointing to the source of the gunfire. the

j. edgar hoover was convinced she had quote/unquote colored blood.y had a secret meeting to have her declared colored and stripped of her citizenship. the fbi component of eleanor and race is -- >> the fbi kept a file on it. >> the largest fbi file in american history. >> when did it to become public? >> in the early -- the late 1980s. a lot of that is classified. if i win the lotto, we'll get the court suit and we'll get classified. >> chris, alita black, and doug brinkley are our guests. garry: thank you. -- >> guest: i think she's everything abigail adams was to john adams to american history in her day and age, eleanor roosevelt was for the early 20th century almost as if she was a reincarnation of her. and i'm wondering if hillary clinton is maybe a reincarnation of her too. it's just -- there are these women who have a place in history and abigail adams and eleanor roosevelt strike me as that. >> thank you, chris. >> well, nobody is a reincarnation of anybody else. but the caller is right, abigail adams is a great first lady and her corresponde

j. ed gar edgar hoover 's successor. he says there was plenty of evidence of the threat that oswald proposed. if anyone would have connected the dots, the president would have fieived responsive. kelly tells -- would have survived. i'm glad i can present these opinions more fully to the public. >> again, the book is a cruel and shocking act. time now to find out what's trending on al jazeera's website. merm la. >> the commercial for gold y flox has gone viral. >> you like to buy a pink toy. and every single boy. and you can always get a style and we'll grow up like every boy. >> goldyblox teaches girls to build things to teach them in stem k science, technology, engineering and math. some people like sociologist lisa wade says it doesn't go fast enough. she says the pastel color toys, further perpetual stereotypes about girls. quote, there's nothing that breaks what we do in this country every day, model what boys do but break with femininity. viewer kelsey says, i think making them pink is the only way you can get girls

j. edgar hoover desperately wanted to take control of that investigation because the dallas pd didn't knowy. if you can find a conspiracy, we can take it over. they couldn't find it. we looked at all the documents. we talked to the f.b.i. agents who were down there. they were desperately trying to find it. they couldn't find it. >> here is a clip from the movie to give you an idea of what you'll be seeing. >> the president now -- >> no, no. >> look at the lead you've got. >> we have to wait for the midwest and the west. it's going to be a long night. >> well, tell me in the morning who wins, mr. president. >> don't say that. >> excellent. we all know how it turns out, and yet, it is so compelling. >> you don't know the inside baseball. you don't know -- particularly with oswald. the guy who plays oswald, off the charts. and he really captures it. we kind of pain-stakingly walk you through oswald cutting back to kennedy, cutting back to oswald. so you see how the whole thing develops. there has been a loft money made in the conspiracy reins. i went through all of them. i didn't just throw t

j. edgar hoover the fbi director sends to the warren commission in june, 1964, right in the middle of the a communist embassy in mexico, presumably the cuban embassy and announced he was going to kill kennedy. this document which should have reached the warren commission never appears to reach the investigators on the staff who would have had a million questions who else knew oswald might be think being killing the president. >> fascinating. still the conspiracies remain. >> they do, and the title is very catching "a cruel and shocking act." tonight catch reairing of "the '60s, the assassination of president kennedy" at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific ohm here on cnn. i thank you for joining us for this very interesting conversation and read. lot of things to get through. >> and a lot of pages. >> i'll start reading it right now in the break. coming up on "new day," she can handle big roles but can she handle the fame? "hunger games" star jennifer lawrence speaks out. ♪ this girl is on fire so there i was again, explaining my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis to another new stylis