j. edgar hoover and the american century century will be a biograph foift former fbi director, j. edgar hoover, who died in 1970. so, beverly. >> i think the protocol was that that we would stand up here for comment and sit back down when we get to the -- get to the q & a and the full discussion. does this microphone is that okay? okay. so, when i agreed to be on this panel at kim's initiation, i said that i would talk a little bit about the intelligence crisis of the 1970s. during the 1970s, there was a learning period in which americans discovered a lot of thing these did not know and perhaps did not want to know about ways in wit intel he jones establishment was operating, particularly the fbi and the cia. and really the most notable feature of that intelligence crisis was, in fact maybe not the death of j. edgar hoover though it was an important precompany for all of those things. so hoover died in may of 1972 i think that's the most important event of the 1970s, but the church committee, which came along in the mid-1970s, really 1975, 1976 was a senate committee and conducted

j. edgar hoover and the american century century will be a biograph foift former fbi director, j. edgar hoover, who died in 1970. so, beverly. >> i think the protocol was that that we would stand up here for comment and sit back down when we get to the -- get to the q & a and the full discussion. does this microphone is that okay? okay. so, when i agreed to be on this panel at kim's initiation, i said that i would talk a little bit about the intelligence crisis of the 1970s. during the 1970s, there was a learning period in which americans discovered a lot of thing these did not know and perhaps did not want to know about ways in wit intel he jones establishment was operating, particularly the fbi and the cia. and really the most notable feature of that intelligence crisis was, in fact maybe not the death of j. edgar hoover though it was an important precompany for all of those things. so hoover died in may of 1972 i think that's the most important event of the 1970s, but the church committee, which came along in the mid-1970s, really 1975, 1976 was a senate committee and conducted

j. edgar hoover's fault. so easy to throw him under the bus these days: [applause] >>> here's a look at books being publish evidence this week: "new york times" reporter traces the origins of the board game monopoly, in the mon knoppist. in the age of a essence, steve steve frazer criticizes the politics of fear. ... a critical look at standardized testing. [applause] >> thank you. so, welcome everybody. my name is brian jones. i am an educator and activist in new york city. i am going to moderate our event. say a few words and then we we will take it off kemal introduced our panelists. we are hear for a very important reason. to mourn the decision, the fateful decision to not run marchand lands on the 1 yard line. to protect them from future pepper spray incidents. to talk to pineapples or to celebrate the launch of this book the new uprising

j. edgar hoover sent a memo that said, do something about malcolmx. we don't know.usands of pages of fbi files that yet to reveal for us to know. >> there is no doubt that the after life of malcolm x after malcolm x had more impact. people began to see the truths he told. the love he displayed. the courage he exemplified, the vision for humanity he was after. >> and what was silenced was a man, a black man, who had thoroughly studied the system that existed in this country. who understood it very clearly and who was developing a cohesive plan to deal with it. >> there will come a time when black people wake up and become intellectually independent enough to think for themselves. >> his voice predicted the urban rebellions in 1968. his voice predicted the growing frustrations that african-americans would feel as it's slowed to a halt. he predicted the police brutality. the growing frustration of black youth who had almost given up. >> malcolm was a young man when the world around him, just in his 20s. he was killed at 39. and, you know, this man made a significant im

j. edgar hoover sent a memo that said "do something about malcolm x." what he meant about that. there are thousands of pages of classified fbi files that have yet to be revealed for us to know. >> there's no doubt that the after life of malcolm x has had more impact than his life. people began to see the truths he told. the love he displayed. the courage he exemplified. the visions for the oneness of humanity that he was after. >> he was a black man who had thoroughly studied the system that exists in this country, who understood it very clearly, and who was developing a cohesive plan to deal with it. >> there will come a time when black people wake up and become intellectually independent enough to think for themselves. >> his voice predicted the urban rebellions in watts and throughout the nation in 1968. his voice predicted the growing frustrations that african-americans would feel as the civil rights progress is slowed to a halt. he predicted the ongoing troubles with police brutality, the growing frustration of black youth who had almost given up.

j. edgar hoover defined it as the greatest threat to the internal security of the united states -- is this working? can you hear me? so j. edgar hoover defined the black panther party as the greatest threat to the internal security of the united states. so the party itself was the recipient of an incredible number of co-intel pro programs and directives and i think that the most glaring affect that co-intel pro had on the panthers was to initiate a really fratricidal matricidal split in the party between the new york chapter and -- west coast and east coast chapters. that was done through a series of letter writing campaigns between huey newton and eldridge cleaver. so you had massive infiltration of the panthers. one interesting fact that came up during the discussion about richard aoki and his status or non-status as an informant in seth rosenfeld's book, i had a discussion with the oakland leadership about this and their own estimates is that they -- and this may speak partially also to beverly's point, it requires further research, is that their own estimates that there were up to 700

back to the first world war with the black chamber, which wrote telegrams and of course read j edgar hoover nixon. if the government has the capacity to read our mail our e-mails, listen to our phone calls the temptation to abuse that capacity is great and again if we were all angels in our public officials were angels-- but james madison said if men were angels we wouldn't need government. it's because men are not angels that we have to have safeguards in place. >> benjamin ginsberg, author is johns hopkins university political science perez are and we have been talking to him about his most recent book. he has written about 20. "the worth of war". you are watching "book tv" on c-span2 >> the administration was working on a bill and negotiated with the senate, but he wasn't prepared to send the bill to congress yet. he was scared in january of 65. if he did that too soon that this bill would fall apart and part with the movement did and part of what became the legislative strategist is to build up pressure through the protest, through the images, through the confrontation to create an atmo

j. edgar hoover had information on everybody in congress and the white house. this now is information on them and everybody in the country. and everybody in the world really. >> before edward snowden, there was william binney: a former senior official at the nsa who helped develop some of the early technology being used in the data collection programs. >> he says 9/11 was a turning point for the agency. he left his job just weeks after the attacks, and became a whistleblower. >> with 9/11 everything changed here. some of them said this is a gift to nsa and what it meant was now we can just about get any kind of budget we want and build our nsa so much larger and get so many more contracts and so much more money and do so many more things and that's exactly what they did. >> when you actually have even private conversations with members of the agency, what you hear is 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. >> general alexander, can you give the best argument for how these programs actually work to protect americans? 9/11. connecting the dots. we need pro

j. edgar hoover authorized surveillance of martin luther king jr., who as this document noted uncover dregion. as of september 2012, of the nearly 14,000 agents, only 7% are hispanic, and less than 5% african american. >> it is an imperative for all of us in law enforcement to try to reflect the communities we serve. >> reporter: scott, when it comes to race and law enforcement, comey says he doesn't believe there's been a healthy dialogue and he doesn't want these issueso "drift away." >> pelley: jeff pegues covering the director's speech in washington today. jeff, thank you very much. today, a federal judge ordered mobile alabama, to start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. mobile is the biggest of a dozen alabama counties that refused to comply with the the judge's ruling that made same-sex marriage legal. the judge's order today applies only to mobile and it's not clear yet whether the other counties will fall in line. there was a breakthrough today on a cease-fire in ukraine. in europe's bloodiest war since the balkans, rebels armed by russia have taken much of eastern ukr

day after the i have a day speech, martin luther king i have a dream speech, the top aide to j edgar hoover wrote him a memo saying we must target martin luther king as the -- we mark him, we must mark him as the most dangerous negro of the future. i mean, that was the language that they used. so it is an incredible leap forward for the fbi and i would rather be uncharacteristically positive about this in the sense that i am a journalist so i look for the negative obviously, but the fact that this was an fbi director talking about inherent bias or racial bias that is uncon shopable is quite a remarkable achievement, i i i think you are right on the edmond perez point it is remarkable we have a debate in this city about the name of the washington football team. but when you two to the south and you find on bridges and highways you have the names still of grand dragons of the ku klux klan, that's a remarkable thing. i find that remarkable. >> lewis is asked if we should change the name of that bridge and he suggested no, that it is important that people remember what happened. >> it is actual

j. edgar hoover. his endless career is just getting started. ok. so, when we look at the labor unrest of 1919, we have to remember -- where were the workers coming from? we know because we talked about this. the workers were african-americans at this time seeking to make real the promises woodrow wilson had set forward in bringing the united states into war. going to make the world safe for democracy. from the workers' perspective this meant more democracy in the workplace. in the context of 1919, the overriding fears have just become too much. too many other americans, race riots in the city, violent strikes, feminism, the fear of bolshevism, these all seem to indicate we have entered frightening times after world war i. these all seem to indicate what the irish poet yeats would write after world war i -- things fall apart. the center cannot hold. that what ever it is that holds this world together, it seemed to be disintegrating. a time when young people are saying the following. for example, f. scott fitzgerald in his novel "the side of paradise

j. edgar hoover. he ran this intelligence agency. there's one blurry photo of him that exists. >> he was called secretary of intelligence, and last week in a very political speech, president kershner announced that she was dissolving the whole thing. and submitted to congress a new bill to completely dismantle it and create something new called the federal intelligence agency. >> so this is like the -- like saying we're dissolving the cia. she fired this guy six months ago, right? >> yes. in december. after many, many years he was a legend. >> there's a theory of the case that they pulled to that this is a reprisal, he's basically engineered some setup to frame her for this murder. >> exactly. that he planted false information, and prosecutor nisman, who has been investigating for many years, he accused the iran government. so that's the -- >> the different theories. >> you know, she was misled, so he made the government look really bad. and then -- >> and then he turns around and essentially -- thank you for being here. incredible s

j. edgar hoover's intelligence program, many in the black community warned the immigrant muslim community decades before of the kind of relationship that is all too often been transactional, reverend it has been a cover to spy on communities. and the president noted that in his speech and i command him for being bold and doing so. >> jonathan the president is prosecuting a serious effort against isis and yet you have republicans litter low accusing him of fighting for the other side. what's your response to that? >> well it's outrageous. anyone who would say that the commander in chief of the united states would side with an enemy, side with an enemy so brutal really doesn't deserve to be an elected official. i mean it's outrageous to hear a sitting member of congress say out loud that he thinks that the president is working against people who would love nothing more than to destroy this country. and what that -- that clip you showed of congressman perry of pennsylvania shows the hope that the craziness and silliness and the bertharism and the tea party folks that swarmed capitol hill in

j. edgar hoover's request to wiretap dr. king. it is a single page. the entire application is five sentences long. it is without fact or substance. and it is predicated on the naked assertion that there is "communist influence in the racial situation." the reason i do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them. one reason we cannot forget our law enforcement legacy is that the people we serve and protect cannot forget it either. so we must talk about our history. it is a hard truth that lives on. a second hard truth -- much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. i am reminded of the song from the broadway hit "avenue q," "everyone's a little bit racist," a part of which goes like this. "look around and you will find no one's really colorblind. maybe it is a fact we all should face. everyo

j. edgar hoover. i think james comey took a very bold step as the nation's chief law enforcement officer, the head of the fbi, who runs a large policing organization himself to really acknowledge what so many of us certainly know and understand that this unconscious bias this tendency for there to be an element of race in policing is real. and it's not imaginary. so his acknowledgment of it is going to raise the next most important question. and that's going to be what in fact, do we do about it? what next steps need to be taken? >> yeah, i mean to your point, the part that's being shared a lot is when he quoted avenue q. let's play a little bit of that. >> much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. i am reminded of the song from the broadway hit "avenue q," everyone's a little

j. edgar hoover. yeah, because of what he knew and how he used it.judges and journalists and executives and who's feared by everybody. >> reporter: a holdover he told us from the so-called dirty war under the army's military dictatorship 40 years ago where thousands were killed or simply disappeared. president cristina fernandez de-kempde de-kirchner de-kirchner. >> they continue to demand answers. their loved ones are buried here at argentina's jewish national cemetery just 200 yards from the man they hoped would find the truth. through his antony stew sew has denied any wrongdoing and said he is bound by law to maintain secrecy, but the government here said it would lift that rule so he can freely answer investigators' questions. norah? >> thank you. the mystery deepens. >>> tiger woods is out of action this morning. he withdrew because of tightness in his lower back. woods believes waiting in the cold in a fog delay triggered his spasm. this is the third pga tourn event where he missed cut or withdrew. >> that's frustrating that i can't stay activ

j. edgar hoover and nixon. if the government has the capacity to read our mail, our e-mails, listen to our phone calls, the temptation to abuse that capacity is great. and, again if we were all angels and our public officials were angels -- [inaudible] but james madison no less an authority than james madison said if men were angels we wouldn't need government. it's because men are not angels that we have to have safeguards in place. >> host: benjamin ginsburg is the author, he's a johns hopkins university political science professor. we've been talking to him about his most recent book he's written about 20 "the worth of war." you're watching booktv on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] >> booktv is live today from savannah georgia, at their annual book festival. our live coverage will continue shortly. [inaudible conversations] >> here's a look at some of the upcoming book fairs and festivals happening around the country: >> let us know about book fairs and festivals in your area, and we'll be happy to add th

j. edgar hoover. >> he influences judges and journalists and executives and who's feared by everybody. >ousands were killed or simply disappeared. president christina fernandez de kirchner has suggested that he deliberately misled the investigation to discredit her after he was fired last december. >> this is a case that's been politicized even before the body was cold. >> reporter: survivors and families of those killed in the jewish center bombing continue to demand answers. their loved ones are buried here at argentina's jewish national cemetery just 200 yards from the man they hoped would find the truth. through his attorney fusso denied any wrongdoing and said he is bound by law to maintain secrecy. the government here said it fusso can freely answer investigator's investigations. norah. >> the mystery deepens. >>> tiger woods is out of action again this morning, withdrawing from the farmers insurance open thursday after 11 holes because of tightness in his lower back. woods believes waiting in the cold during a fog delay triggered the spasm. this is the third straight pga tour even

j. edgar hoover is that he was a closet homosexual. i have been interviewed by multiple people on that production team, and told them a very different story. they don't care. if that, if that's the story that they bought, that's the story that they bought. so i actually don't think historians have that great an impact on a film once it's gone into production. >> let me just add one quick thing. if you think you're going to get rich by being involved with a movie, forget it. i sat down once with richard attenborough, he wanted to make a movie about tom payne. and he said i have your book on tom payne. it's great we're really planning to use it. surely you have to pay me something, buy the rights? no, no, no. that's public domain, he said. so forget hollywood paying you anything. >> very quickly there are some great films that are historically based. i'm thinking about the one by raoul peck. obviously, "selma", "12 years", "the butler." >> the historian can jump in after the movie comes out. the movie creates an opportunity for a convers

the biggest rope about j edgar hoover was that he was a closeted homosexual who hated everybody, and everything that he did -- that is what the movie did. i have been interviewed by multiple people -- i was interviewed by multiple people on that production team and told them a very different story. they don't care. if that is the story that they bought, that is the story that they bought. i don't think historians have that great of an impact on a film once it has gone into production. >> let me add one quick thing. if you think you're going to get rich by being involved in a movie, forget it. i said done with richard attenborough, the british film maker who wanted to make a movie about tom paine. he said, i have your book. we are planning to use it. i said, that's nice. surely, you have to pay me something. buy the rights. no, no, that is public domain, he said. forget that hollywood will pay you. >> there are some great films that are historically based. i'm thinking about a film by raul peck. i'm thinking about "the great debaters." obviously, "selma," "12 years," "the butler." >>

j. edgar hoover's request to wiretap dr. king. it is a single page. the entire application is five sentences long. it is without fact or substance. and it is predicated on the naked assertion that there is "communist influence in the racial situation." the reason i do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them. one reason we cannot forget our law enforcement legacy is that the people we serve and protect cannot forget it either. so we must talk about our history. it is a hard truth that lives on. a second hard truth -- much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. i am reminded of the song from the broadway hit "avenue q," "everyone's a little bit racist," a part of which goes like this. "look around and you will find no one's really colorblind. maybe it is a fact we all should face. everyo

j. edgar hoover's request to wiretap dr. king. it is a single page. the entire application is five sentences long. it is without fact or substance. and it is predicated on the naked assertion that there is "communist influence in the racial situation." the reason i do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them. one reason we cannot forget our law enforcement legacy is that the people we serve and protect cannot forget it either. so we must talk about our history. it is a hard truth that lives on. a second hard truth -- much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. i am reminded of the song from the broodway hit "avenue q," "everyone's a little bit racist," a part of which goes like this. "look around and you will find no one's really colorblind. maybe it is a fact we all should face. everyo

j. edgar hoover's request to wire tap dr. king. it is a single page.nces long. it is without fact or substance. and is predicated on the naked assertion that there is quote, communist influence in the racial situation. the reason i do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them. >> among those lessons were a series of heart truths comey said he had to face including the ways people can be misinformed and how we can learn a little something from that from singing puppets. >> much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biasses and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact we all, white and black, carry various biasses around with us. i am remiemdnded of the song "everyone is a little bit racist." >> comey went on to describe how that can form the basis of racial profiling by the police. >> the two young black men on one side of the street looked like so many others that officer has locked up. two white men

j. edgar hoover's request to wiretap dr. king. it is a single page. the entire application is five sentences long. it is without fact or substance. and it is predicated on the naked assertion that there is "communist influence in the racial situation." the reason i do those things is to ensure that we remember our mistakes and that we learn from them. one reason we cannot forget our law enforcement legacy is that the people we serve and protect cannot forget it either. so we must talk about our history. it is a hard truth that lives on. a second hard truth -- much research points to the widespread existence of unconscious bias. many people in our white majority culture have unconscious racial biases and react differently to a white face than a black face. in fact, we all, white and black, carry various biases around with us. i am reminded of the song from the broadway hit "avenue q," "everyone's a little bit racist," a part of which goes like this. "look around and you will find no one's really colorblind. maybe it is a fact we all should face. everyo

j. edgar hoover and nixon. if the government has the capacity to read our mail, our e-mails, listen to our phone calls, the temptation to abuse that capacity is great. and, again if we were all angels and our public officials were angels -- [inaudible] but james madison no less an authority than james madison said if men were angels we wouldn't need government. it's because men are not angels that we have to have safeguards in place. >> host: benjamin ginsburg is the author, he's a johns hopkins university political science professor. we've been talking to him about his most recent book he's written about 20 "the worth of war." you're watching booktv on c-span2. [inaudible conversations] >> booktv is live today from savannah georgia, at their annual book festival. our live coverage will continue shortly. [inaudible conversations] >> here's a look at some of the upcoming book fairs and festivals happening around the country: >> let us know about book fairs and festivals in your area, and we'll be happy to add th