j. edgar hoover. so, if you notice there is a kind of fbi centric line up here, that is entirely my doing because these are the people that i wanted to hear from. but the church committee got a lot into the cia, too. maybe we'll talk a bit about that. maybe we will not. but in putting the panel together, i had a couple of priorities beyond my own interest in hearing from this particular group. one, i wanted to talk to historians who were working within the federal government and outside of the federal government. and i also wanted to try to get a couple of generations together on the panel to talk about how our memories and experiences of the church committee have in fact changed over time. i'm grateful to the panelists for agreeing to do this. they are going to speak in the order in which they are seated. i will introduce them all individually in a moment. they are going to speak relatively briefly, give formal remarks about 10 minutes each. and then, since this is a roundtable, we will hopefully hav

when j edgar hoover said i'm not going to do this anymore, which he did in 1970.e said no more black bag jobs. dixon set up the crew that he called the plumbers. but crowe, gordon leddy hunt ex-cie and ex-a and ex-fbi guys. the plumbers were there to stop the leaks. they tormented every president but none more than nick. charlie: it seemed that he was a man that felt grievance and he felt like those people had an advantage. the kennedys had something. they did it to me, i will do it to them. he felt almost justification to do what he wanted to do. evan: bobby kennedy audited nixon three times. nixon abused the irs, but he wasn't the first. he had this view of the kennedys that they were better at dirty tricks than he was. he kept saying, why can't we do it as well as they do it? he exaggerated, but the candidates were not bad at dirty tricks. bobby kennedy did a lot more wiretapping than richard nixon did. including martin luther king. they were almost a model for richard nixon. he thought he was catching up to the challenges. we talked about nixon being paranoid

and when j edgar hoover said i'm , not going to do this anymore which he did in 1970.e said no more black bag jobs. that is when next and set up the crew that he called the plumbers. bud crowe, gordon liddy, hunt, ex-cia and ex-fbi guys. the plumbers were there to stop the leaks. links torment every president but none more than nixon. charlie: it seemed that he was a man who felt aggrieved meant and he felt like those people had an advantage. the kennedys had something. at every stage, he said, they did it to me. i will do it to them. what the system had done to him he felt almost justification to , do what he wanted to do. evan: that's true. he did have a grievance. bobby kennedy audited nixon three times. next and was not the first person to abuse the irs. he abuse the irs a lot but he , wasn't the first. you're right nixon had this view of the kennedys that they were better at dirty tricks than he was. he kept saying, why can't we do it as well as they do it? he exaggerated how good the kennedys were at 30 tricks, but the kennedys were not bad at dirty tricks. bobby

j. edgar hoover. so, if you notice there is a kind of f.b.i.-centric lineup, that is entirely my doing because these are the people that i wanted to hear from. but the church committee got a locked into the c.i.a. too. , maybe we'll talk a bit about that. maybe we will not. but in putting the panel together, i had a couple of priorities beyond my own interest in hearing from this particular group. one, i wanted to talk to historians who were working within the federal government and outside of the federal government. and i also wanted to try to get a couple of generations together on the panel to talk about how our memories and experiences of the church committee have in fact changed over time. i'm grateful to the panelists for agreeing to do this. they are going to speak in the order in which they are seated. i will introduce them all individually in a moment. they are going to speak relatively briefly, give formal remarks about 10 minutes each. and then, since this is a roundtable, we will hopefully have a bunch of time left over for intercha

j. edgar hoover. after this, the archivist that rowns the library came up and said list we know how you work, doe classify documents right? by the end of trawnd 14nd all much the documents and there was a quart of bob halder man's secret diary nixon's chief of staff, that had never been released. by the end of 200014, everything will be out. i said i'm going to write that book. and they said at the end of the conversation everyone will have to rewrite the history when this stuff comes out. >> so why did they say that. >> i think of nixon's five years in office. a shakespearean tragedy. this material, the tapes and the documents are the fourth act where the compling goes mad before he falls. >> and you sir having written about some character figures. itch v. worked for past -- i was of the enemy. >> through richard nixon. nixon was always get rid of the harvard guys get rid of him. ill saw him as a lot of more thans, as a cartoon figure and i knew it had to be more indicated, i wanted to switch sides t

j. edgar hoover on our side.ide his grand of sick obsessive focus on gay america. >> each supervisor will be held personally responsible to underline in green pencil the names of individuals who are alleged to be sex deviates. signed j. edgar hoover. >> he's instructing his people to become plants in the federal government to identify potential accused homosexuals. report back to him and then let them investigate. >> the plans were also instructed to delete the names of gays, in some cases anonymously to their employers. >> doug charles is the author of a new book hoover's war on gays. >> it was an effort to silence them, an effort to ruin your lives. if you were exposed to gays in the 1950's or 1960's your life was over. >> sreenivasan: you can watch the entire documentary at yahoo.com. on the newshour online: a nasa spacecraft's long-awaited flyby of pluto is less than three weeks away, and scientists have only days left to maneuver it around potentially hazardous space debris. read how they're preparing for th

glenn: the core principle that in thele on as a nation 70's after the abuses of the j edgar hoover yearsars were revealed, is this idea that in order to trust the government, they have to go to the court and present evidence the person whom they want to spy on is actually guilty of something more engaged in some kind of wrongdoing. robust court where two sides were in attendance at one side is arguing the case against the government and add some transparency to that court nsa had to convince a real court they deserved it, that would be the kind of thing that could work. going onthere is a lot here both on the policy and clinical front, so we are going to bring in phil mattingly from washington to walk us through it all. what are the practical implications for ending these programs? there's a lot going on. on the policy side, the three programs, the one that has gotten the most attention is section 215, less the collection of millions of americans phone records. but there are two other programs , one killed with roving wiretaps, wiretaps were you only need to get one authorization to tap

j. edgar hoover and his relationship with dr. martin luther king.remarkable to hear reverend goff praising law enforcement from the diazs. >> i was very moved to see how the ame churches going forward in the program they have this wednesday 6:00 at this church bible study class again. open to anybody that wants to come in. it really makes your heart move to feel the power of jesus christ today that's been the message here and what healing and forgiveness is. and the fbi and the police have done a great job investigating this case and that they were willing to acknowledge that this was an open-hearted ceremony and it was an honor to get to listen to it and be here. >> of course we should note that there is a lot of work to be done. president obama tweeting within the last day or so expressions of sympathy are not enough. it's time we do something about this. president obama seems focused on further restrictions on access to guns especially for people like this racist terrorist whose name i am not using, but there will be a day, the mayor, mayor riley

j. edgar hoover was the head of the fbi. they knew who did it right away.ple who were responsible weren't brought to justice for decades. south carolina a female that is of indian descent -- this is not your grandfather's america. >> he should not continue to fight racism where it exists and when you say that young man exposed to the kind of hatred and websites and flags and rhodesian slang. i think you have to understand that poison is still in the system. he's a deviant just like manson was a deevian the. manson wanted to start a race war, we wrote him off as a nut, a deviant evil nut. >> we have to break. great debate both of you, appreciate it. president obama changes the country's policy toward hostage negotiation. should families be able to pay ransom to isis and other terrorist groups if their loved ones are being held overseas without fear of prosecution. i agree with the president here but former new york city mayor rudy giuliani will weigh-in and the daily mail catches hillary clinton. good-bye scooby doo van, hello private jet. what happened? our

j. edgar hoover who didn't believe -- >> are you saying we're discounting the process?that's exactly what i'm saying. and all the things that nicholas mentioned about the life expectancy, you can wave a wand over thehearteds of every person in america and those problems will still remain. the black community in this country is absentee fathers. obama said nine times more likely to drop out of school, 20 times more likely to end up in jail. that's what we ought to be talking about. >> so there's no doubt that there has been extraordinary progress and that is we're celebrating. but at a time when you do have persistent inequities. >> one doesn't cancel out the other. that's the thing, right? >> that's right. and you look at net worth, for example. so, today, the average black famtly has 6,000 dlarsz net worth. the average white family, $110, $110,00. >> what do you want to do abit? >> i want to focus on all kids who have the opportunity. right now, there is clearly an inequity in education. >> what does that have to do with racism? what does it have to do with racism? >>

j edgar hoover. nixon was not the first guy.here are endless our news about nixon, but one of the things that destroyed him was the fbi got out of the business for working for the president doing this bugging. hoover said, we will not do it anymore. hoover, smart guy who knew about a his legacy, he could feel the lawsuits coming on. hoover said, the fbi is not doing this. so what does that mean? he creates the plumbers. in-house capabilities to spy. unfortunately, the people his aides hired, hunt and liddy, were not that competent. hunt's reputation was pretty bad. he was one of the chief plumbers. g gordon liddy was a colorful figure but kind of a screwup. those guys made lots of mistakes. they were not good at what they did. it were not competent at what they did. they got caught and nixon got caught with them. brian: what more interview clip, maybe i have one more click left. let's try one more. he talks about his real friends. nixon: we had difficult times in office, as everybody knows. not speaking just of watergate but pre

j. edgar hoover's program, we saw governmental overreach and we saw civil liberties encroached.nk there has to be a healthy balance. >> there is scary overseas news about isis today. apparently -- i'm sorry, sir. i have to cut you off. thanks for joining us. going to the family of usaamah rahim joining us now. >> let me give in the name of allah most merciful, i'm going to ask for a couple of things here for myself as a -- as a man who believes in god, that god has mercy on the young man. i don't know what his faults are were and i don't think whatever transpired warranted him being - killed and i want to pray for the officers involved. that god would guide them because they have families and i don't know how strongly they take it that they have murdered a young man that they well could have captured. i say that because you can -- they can capture elephants without killing them. you can capture wild dogs. you can capture tigers and lions and bears, oh my. you can capture all of them and i think if they had ample time and ample information, that if they wanted to really -- i thin

j. edgar hoover was given the instructions. go ahead. you need to contain this problem in puerto rico after that strike rate those six decades when you create 100,000 files on people it's not just the files. think of the file as an organism. how does that get created? via the eye and the police couldn't create it. it had to be reported to them so now you have a situation where the the eyes actively turning brother against brother in puerto rico. you have 100,000 files and tens of thousands of informants in the way you get that informants is not because puerto ricans are inherently treacherous. you would worm your your way and in. would call someone into the precinct on some pretext and say we heard such and such and i think we are going to open a file on you and the guy will panic but then they will put their arm around them. you know what we don't believe you. we think you are actually a good guy. but we are going to believe that that you are not seditious because you are going to come back and tell us about those other bad guys. you ar

j. edgar hoover titled: "martin luther king, jr. security matter - communist." hoover requests authority for "technical surveillance" of king. the approval is signed by attorney general robert kennedy. and there was no court order. it was the signature of the f.b.i. director and the signature of the attorney general? >> comey: yep. and then, open-ended-- no time limit, no space restriction, no review, no oversight. >> pelley: and given the threats in the world today, wouldn't that make your job so much easier? >> comey: in a sense, but in... also in a sense, we would give up so much that makes sure that we're rooted in the rule of law that i'd never want to make that trade. >> pelley: some of the worst of the f.b.i.'s history is in its investigation of dr. king. so, on comey's orders, f.b.i. academy instructors now bring new agents here to talk about values lost in the pursuit of the man who became a monument. >> character, courage, collaboration, competence. we have to be able to call on those tools in our toolbox to be able to make sure that we are correcting

j. edgar hoover was the head of the fbi. they knew who did it right away. they sat on the information. people who were responsible weren't brought to justice for decades. fast forward, to south carolina. a female that is of indian descent is the governor. this is not your grandfather's america anymore. >> that does not suggest that we should not continue to fight racism where it exists. and when you see that young man exposed to the kind of hatred and websites and flags, i think you have to understand that poison is still in the system. >> we have to leave it there. >> he is a deviant, just like manson was a deviant. nobody said he was leading a charge about white supremacy. we wrote him off as a deviant, evil nut. so is this guy. >>> great debate both of you. coming up president obama's changes the country's policy towards hostage negotiation. should families be able to pay ransom if their loved ones are being held overseas without fear of prosecution? i kind of agree with the president here. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani will weigh in. >>> and hillary clinton's campaign. w

j. edgar hoover and richard nixon who grew up in poverty, not poverty but you know so i'm just saying that's area that the young catholics were rebelling against their church and there were a lot of them marching on the left with father mohaqiq etc.. that was leaving out a group of americana so that's what i'm saying the wealthy buckley and kennedy family and catholic frustration also wanted somebody to look at as well. who became a punching bag is the jaeger hoover and the protestant people that came from poverty. >> i used the phrase waspy. i did mention he was catholic but i use it as a cultural marker is the refined life he lived. i have a part in the book where he talk about what it meant to him to be catholic. he was no fan of vatican ii and the changes. he didn't hate all of them but he was not a friend of them. he was a devout catholic and claim to have never wavered in his belief his whole life. i'd like you are suggesting seem to think that made him, we talked about the competence of ego that made him -- made them work called that because he was sure he was in possession of the tru

j. edgar hoover comes to mind -- when this kind of information could be used. and, third i've been very concerned, given what our former colleague, senator you udall and i had to do with respect to bulk phone record collection of e-mail. we battled to end this -- and of course this was e-mail that could be read by government agencies. we battled with various intelligence leaders saying that we felt this a violation of people's rights, and it wasn't effective. they asserted for months and months that it was. and finally one day they woke up and said the program wasn't needed anymore. none of this would have even happened mr. president had not senator udall and i made that case repeatedly. the intelligence leadership knew that we were not going to give it up. but that's what goes on if there isn't a check on some of these kinds of procedures. and senator paul made meption of -- made mention of the fact that the intelligence leadership has not exactly been straight with the american people on these issues. and i want to emphasize that we are not talking about the

for people who don't know the need to look up j edgar hoover. collecting information on people should not have been collecting information on. things that he did with martin luther king and a lot of other people. if you listen to and since's recordings you can hear and see how these guys overreach. people need to realize what people in government are doing. they are not for us, there only for themselves. if they were or us with the government would be doing is going after these people who collapse the entire world economy and then nobody went to jail. i go to jail for stealing $140 at these guys still trillions of dollars but nobody went to jail or it i suggest that the people listening to your station -- or maybe you need to plate more history because the king can do whatever he wants. we don't have kings anymore. we're supposed to elect our representatives. stop saying that if you have nothing to hide you would not worry. wait until it happens to you. the legal system is about lawyers railroading us. politicians playing us for fools and from w