>> i think it started before that, j. jmt. i think there's always these opportunities for women, earmarked opportunities for women and women of color and latinas, right, but the government doesn't market those opportunities nor do these women even know sometimes that these opportunities even exist and then there's no training for them because the business center needs to be reall rietzed for it. the reason i want to do this is to have them meet with each other, have them partner, because some people have more experience but other people have more experience in new kind of digital areas and other areas and they need to partner. so it's a series of issues that don't allow women to really take advantage of all these opportunities that are out there for us. >> you know, harvard business school did a study where they found that a man and a woman would go in, get financing, they would do the same exact pinch and the man would get financing more than a woman. >> and i think that is true, but i think that troouthfully, peop are trusti