c-span: j.b. stoner? >> guest: ghosh, j.b. stoner, yes. if you are talking about somebody -- somebody who mix religion into an instrument of hatred like j.b. stoner there are plenty of those. they are the top of the list. c-span: you're is the book, the second and three volume series by j.b. stoner, this one called "pillar of fire" america in the teen years 1963-1965. thank you. >> guest: thank you, brian .. >> you were looking for a venue where you could use it and said it to join the most elite unit i can join, or -- i think that's one -- or maybe you felt that there was the absence of that in your life. you might have been adrift or wondering, you know, am i going the right way? am i headed for jail or a life that's not, you know, not going to really bring out all that's in me, and so you said to yourself, well, i want to go somewhere where this kind of code of honor exists, and where it can be, you know, taught to me, 10 i think -- so i think that's that a reason, certainly that's why i joined, and i think that's what i hope you guys a