. >> rose: that j.d. nawaz is here.he's the author of "radical, my journey out of islamic extremism tony blair said this book should be read by anyone that understands how the extremism that stalks our world is treated and how can be be overcome. it can only be written by someone who lived this story. also joining me, john miller, formerly of the f.b.i. and my colleague at cbs news. i'm pleased to have both of them here. this is as many of you know who i do many things that john miller says and so you said we should have a conversation here. why? >> this book is remarkable in that it is the story of radicalization written by the person who is being radicalized and you go through the process of his radicalization, into egypt where he's accused of trying to top it will government, into the prisons where he's tortured, among the prisoners where he meets other people and out the other end of that tunnel where he sees a light to say "this is a complex web of half-truths. i just got the other half of the story." and the reaso