j.k. chester shire was an avid the zionist which was there monica you know, the father brown stories and also i wonder if truman was aware by separating good use gourde -- or getting separate the movement to smuggle jews into palestine is far easier. maybe the backing and oddball way to make it possible for them to organize in the camps. >> i don't think he was thinking of that. >> now commercial announcements. first of all, actually i want to thank our guests tonight [applause] for a wonderful dialogue that is very dramatic it is sort of like the perfect situation because you have lectures with the beautiful interplay and the audience got involved as well. there will be a book signing. books are available in the bookshop and they will be signing copies. a programming note to our next event a man who has 17 ph.d. is at the el -- jabil and the art critic of the new republic and on june 11 we will be presenting a program on the jewish impact on the creation of paul crock. [laughter] that is not a joke. featuring the dictators, their amounts, the patti smith group, and it is not atypical event b