delta force commander and j.m. burger author of the book "isis the state of terror" and a fellow the at brookings institution and founder of the website intel wire. and tom fuentes is a cnn law enforcement analyst, former fbi assistant director. colonel reese, give us a sense of what this means in a practical sense to you at these u.s. military installations, the change that the troops the civilians there are about to see? >> yeah wolf bottom line is this. military installations it's normalcy. they're used to seeing these ups and downs and the threat perspective perspective, one of the things the soldiers will go home to make sure their families understand there is increased risk to the base but they understand how to do this. the big thing like barbara talked about, this really becomes how long can you sustain these aspects at a higher risk. there's a higher budgetary piece. for the soldiers and families alone, to stay at a higher risk awareness, what i would call being in the red zone you can only do that for so long un

that, j.m. burgerat the end of the day if the defeat comes from within, that's going to be a much more resounding defeat. >> but how possible is that? >> we already see resistance movements in some areas. now, the question is how -- there's two things to this. number one is how robust are they, you know? in the past we saw very robust movements to aqi but the u.s. also played a role in helping to insure that they weren't destroyed. the second thing i should warn is i think a lot of these resistance movements are also people we don't like. you have, on the one hand, probably baathist resistance movements, and almost certainly you have al-qaeda resistance movements which plays into the broader struggle within jihaddism. but that being said, looking to internal defense and internal squabbles. there was a question before about baghdad city. and -- baghdadi. and while i think baghdadi is replaceable, you know, once you have a succession, especially with an organization like this which has a cult of personal