if we're not willing to make millions and billionaires pay their fair share, how do we pay for that, j.pis is another interesting thing about what president obama said. he talked about how these are hard times for the middle class. it's also hard times for the poor. i mean, the fact that he keeps on bringing up the middle class. there are a lot of people with different levels of income effected. job creators, the people that need the jobs that we need to look out for. >> i'm going to throw -- i want to interrupt here and get to one thing. president obama has had a tendency on this first campaign to step in it a few times. in iowa he said the rise of a rugula had gone up. out of touch. fund-raiser in san francisco he said that poor voters, white working class voters cling to their guns and religion. seems he may have stepped in it again. listen to this exchange he had with barbara walters about a trait he doesn't like about himself. >> what's the trait you most deplore in yourself and the trait you most deplore in others? >> laziness. >> you're lazy? >> you know, it's interesting. there i