j.s. mcdonald and told him that he had a son that does this and this. he said, oh, we'd gladly like to have him. so i interviewed this mcdonald but then found out that since germany was still legally at war, even in '45 and '49 with the united states, that they couldn't hire me. i had to take all kinds of jobs until i finally wound up working for an airline, started up as a start-up airline like ozark airlines in st. louis. we had all dc-3s which was another good experience, again. after five years i was a citizen and then i immediately changed over to mcdonald at that time and started off in the design department and had various jobs there. and rather intriguing thing that happened -- you know, when you have these things with confidential and secret things, i designed a lifting mechanism at that time to carry in the b-52s, the decoy missions. they were little airplane type things that would fly formation around the b-52 bomber to attract enemy aircraft or missiles. the final review by the air force, i was supposed to make the presentation of the system