jacari, you're nodding your head as she runs through this list of wonderful things. so you had a bit of a rough start to life. tell me a little bit about that. >> well, i zbgrou u grew up in california. i was in juvenile hall. i moved over to marin. i was on probation, i been on probation since i was 12, finally about to get off. >> and you're 26 now? >> 26 now. >> that's a long time. >> yes. long time. thanks to the phoenix project, i always say that they saved my life. phoenix project did a lot to me, to help me get into construction, things like that. >> now, prot jekt actually does a lot. i'm looking at you had to become drug free and get your driver's license. >> yes. >> we have images of you at work. that of course cost money. who paid for that? >> the phoenix program helped me pay for that through the probation department. >> tell me about the probation department. >> well, what's so great about the probation department in marin county is that they identified jacari as an example of someone that they felt would make a big difference. if he changed his life, th