and in the last hour here on "american morning," john talked to jacee dugard's stepfather, carl probynlose hope, how's he coping? and what's it like to watch jacee's kidnapping? >> i did lose hope. but i'm coping that it's over and the last 18 years have been pretty rough, but these last two days have been pretty good. >> right. >> got ap ending to this. >> what have the last two days been like for you? >> basically, i've done 100 interviews. they've been busy. i haven't had time to think about anything. i've had about four hours sleep and just keep busy, keep doing things, you know, learning more information and things are going good. once i got next to her, cut her off. basically when i saw the door fly open, i jumped on the mountain bike. i couldn't get to her in time. the hill was too steep. i rode back down, yelled at the neighbor to call 911. they had a two-minute head start. i have a lot of questions of like how do they get out of there? you'd think they block the roads off, but they got away. >> police said they started the work of reunion iffing the family and lit be a long pr