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we'll see what jack smith has to say. the former president already attacking him in personal terms is a very bad sign in terms of how he's going to handle this. we can hope his allies and other republicans don't join him in attacking prosecutors, in attacking the rule of law, in attacking the justice system and instead focus on the defense of the man here. >> it's so interesting that rachel points to the simplicity. i'm always bracing for needing to use all my lifelines to call people like you or andrew weissmann when a indictment like this is made public, and again, i'm going to apologize to you the same way i did to rachel. jack smith takes that podium, we're all going to zip up and listen. it is clear he pierced something that was always a challenge for robert mueller before him. that was the president's intent. it was his intent to take these things. it was his intent to share them with people, and he did it with the knowledge it was not allowed. >> absolutely. it helps when it's clear. o.j. famously had the book "if

and, yes, jack smith is right. donald trump is presumed innocent, the government has to beat that burden a trial if it gets that far. that is the governments initial application, but if we do get the trial, i don't see much of a reason to believe that they won't be able to make their case. i don't see a lot of substantive defense that donald trump will make a trial. >> andrew, i watched you read this indictment because i was rushing here to the studio, watching msnbc on my phone. you had to read it on live tv when someone else would say something, you get a chance to look down and read a paragraph, and then they would call on you, so it was a pretty rough way for you to have to read it, but having read all the indictments that you have read in your career, this one being the first of a former president, this being, as you know, six and a half months worth of jack smith proceeded by more than a year and a half a pursuit of the documents by the federal government -- what was your feeling with the totality of what you

jack smith has gotten additional evidence.ge assertions and get access to mike pence, to mark meadows, to pat cipollone, beyond executive privilege assertions. it's only going to make the evidence of specific intent to obstruct that official proceeding on january 6th more provable. so i've believed all along that they were moving inexorably toward an indictment. i think it's a big deal to cross the threshold of issuing one. it's happened now, therefore a little bit less of a momentous thing if it happens again. but i think they're going to make these decisions on the facts and the law. jack smith, as joyce was saying in your first segment, is a consummate professional who's guided by the facts and the law. facts and the law here, to me, point pretty clearly to criminal charges on the january 6th matter in particular. >> we do know that jack smith has been talking to people. the committee that you were a lead investigator for, you and your team did advance public understanding on this. it's very clear from the work you did that

what do you hope jack smith learned?> he is hoping to call to get information about who created the impetus to submit these fake collector certificates. we developed information that this was not organic activity in each state where people people in georgia or people in nevada sort of on their own independently met and cast their votes for president trump and submit that to washington. this was a washington-led trump campaign engineered plan. that's why it's so important. jack smith's focus is on a conspiracy, intensal conduct and the submission of these fake electors purporting to be official, but actually not being official, potentially criminal. so he is looking to people that will provide information as to how they came about. >> well, tim, a federal judge already described donald trump and john eastman's role in this plot as one that included likely committing felony crimes. it seems that judges who have examined the people who put the fake electors plot into motion has already said likely felonies were committed. d

this is jack smith show.he's making all the decisions, and it's up to him what to say publicly about this. but i think he's going to speak, chris, through his court files. >> in terms of timing here, we saw this in new york, and there was the subsequent court date the next president zoomed in for that one. there's all this sort of talk about speed. there's justice delayed is justice denied clichÉ that looms overall this, although in some senses that is never quite applied to donald trump, who has managed to delay in the late late most of his life. but a more pressing question about the timeline of a presidential campaign, and if this man is guilty of the serious crimes which we anticipate he's been charged with, would he be able to face trial before he perhaps would be elected president and it would be rendered moot? any insight into the thinking behind timing? >> yes. obviously another thing we've been asking around a lot. so here some benchmark. remember paul manafort indicted in washington, d.c., that case

and i'm hoping that when all this comes out that jack smith or who's ever working with jack smith willndictments. this cries out for the talking indictment. tell the story to the american people. why this is taking place, what happens r happened. the january 6th committee did an outstanding job and now it's in jack smith's hands. >> you get the last word. >> totally agree. we found a compelling story. he's going beyond what we found and is only seemingly adding chapters to the story that are really compelling. look, just on the record that we developed we recommended criminal charges. obstruction of an official proceeding, conspiracy to defraud the united states, false statements. from what i'm reading, and i don't know anything more than you do, that showing, that evidentiary predicate is only getting stronger. and therefore, as charlie said, i think that this criminal process can flush out the story even more and ultimately might result in accountability. and that's hugely important for the preservation of democracy. >> especially ahead of another election in which he's running. >> r

and, yes, jack smith is right. donald trump is presumed innocent, the government has to beat that burden a trial if it gets that far. that is the governments initial application, but if we do get the trial, i don't see much of a reason to believe that they won't be able to make their case. i don't see a lot of substantive defense that donald trump will make a trial. >> andrew, i watched you read this indictment because i was rushing here to the studio, watching msnbc on my phone. you had to read it on live tv when someone else would say something, you get a chance to look down and read a paragraph, and then they would call on you, so it was a pretty rough way for you to have to read it, but having read all the indictments that you have read in your career, this one being the first of a former president, this being, as you know, six and a half months worth of jack smith proceeded by more than a year and a half a pursuit of the documents by the federal government -- what was your feeling with the totality of what you

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no one knows when and how jack smith is going to move. i've emphasized that, but even a very quiet, careful prosecutor like him, cannot help but have certain things spill out when there's this much action. in other words, he doesn't control the highways, the public sidewalks, where our cameras have caught witnesses coming in and out, lawyers coming in and out, and external subpoenas both in florida and to bannon. is this getting hotter? >> i think we're getting ready for ramming speed. glad to see it after a long period of time. we have had breaks where jack smith has made his own breaks and run down some alleyways and gotten some really good information. i suppose the latest big piece is that the information that trump had appears to have been used in a compromised way involving the national defense. and i know that hasn't been confirmed yet, but that's the prosecution, the espionage prosecution with a ten-year penalty if it is. but that's pretty important. when you knit it together, you have trump -- we know he took documents. we know h

but currently it did no help, no value for jack smith.hing forward with the indictment. which was four days later. feels like it was four months ago. >> certainly does. and your wiseman, bradley moss, thank you very much fair and valuable guidance on this historic night. appreciate every minute of your help. thank you. and coming up, our special coverage of the federal indictment of donald trump continues with nbc news presidential historian, michael beschloss. who will join us next. oin us next. getting inspired! volunteering! playing pickleba...! my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? it's down with rybelsus®. my doctor told me rybelsus® lowered a1c better than a leading branded pill and that people taking rybelsus® lost more weight. i got to my a1c goal and lost some weight too. rybelsus® isn't for people with type 1 diabetes. don't take rybelsus® if you or your family ever had medullary thyroid cancer, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if allergic to it. stop rybelsus® and get medical help r

and what jack smith has, and to be fair, what the justice department had months before jack smith wasnted, was evidence of obstruction. all jack smith has done is get more of that evidence. remember that what the department of justice had before as special counsel was named, they had evidence that donald trump kept classified records back from the federal agents after a subpoena was issued. that's obstruction of a criminal investigation. they had information that he did not allow them to actually comply and return those documents, boom. number two, jack smith gets another huge piece of obstruction evidence. what is it? information indicating that donald trump instructed an aide to move documents from the storage room. and the washington post has reported, shockingly, that that move was a day before the fbi showed up to, you know, collegiately arrive like the delivery truck, and say, can we take back the classified records that you found? we are happy to take them from you, a day before some of these records were moved. >> we have to remind our audience, all this information, the amazi

and yet jacks mitt did it anyway. that suggests to me we are just reading tea leaves here but one is suggest me jack smith is operating more on principle. he is not trying to game the system. and second i think he believes the cases that strong that he can do it even in florida even with a judge like aileen cannon who had the supervision last year. so smith could've indicted in washington d.c.. got a easier jury conviction and ensure it might have been challenged. but smith did not do that he took the harder route here. and i think that signals to me how strong jack smith thanks the cases. >> andrew weizmann, and to everyone. please feel free to comment on each other's answers if you are so inspired. don't be limited to what i'm framing here. andrew weizmann, what is your reaction to what we just heard donald trump's criminal defense lawyer say? including that point, about he suspects there could be maybe some other indictment? but they don't know about anyone else indicted? >> sure, so clearly that was speculating th

jack smith has stayed the course, stayed meticulous. and you asked me why do you thoing they're moving to florida. the majority of what he is alleging occurred took place in florida. he could have brought this case in d.c., but by doing it in florida, he made an expert move that's basically going to take away any argument that trump's team will have to say this is motivated by political motives, this is something you're trying to shop for a vena friendly to government. >> court shopping, looking for a court that will look friendly to you and trump says he can't get a fair trial in new york. >> in a state you won twice in two consecutive presidential elections, you can't make that argument. and jack smith decided, look, i'm going to go into a firmly red state and indict you there because that's where you violated the law. my take away, my initial impression, jack smith has shown america what prosecutors do. >> you cover the department of justice and understanding what's going on inside is not easy. what can you tell us? >> it's not easy,

jack has been around. jack has done a lot of things. his team are very professional, very experienced prosecutors. you learn as a prosecutor that you can't take things personally and you have to have a thick skin. jack definitely has that. >> really interesting. our thanks to both of you, leslie caldwell and emily baz lon. there's more pressure on the zourt and today i'll walk through why the buck stops with chief justice roberts. hobnobbing with republican donors. also barack obama speaking out. a brand new interview that involves lebron james and some other fun stuff. first we turn to one of our special reports. how violation of the espionage act can lead to prison terms which it has for many people and why it sometimes doesn't. there's bad news in here for donald trump and a sliver of good news. it's our breakdown for you when we're back in just 60 seconds. n we're back in just 60 seconds. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective, shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not p

jack smith has not yet indicted anyone in that. the reason is, most of the frontline cases still sit with main justice, and that's all the trespassers and the violence and the sedition cases we've covered. smith has this other more kind of difficult, arcane task, decide whether or not to prosecute any people who didn't actually breach the capitol but may have engaged in other related crimes. we haven't heard much about the january 6th probe that he's doing lately. now there's a major break in the case. jack smith has "at least two republican fake electors testifying to a grand jury in recent weeks, and he's doing it with a deal, giving them limited immunity." you can see the scoop from cnn which reports that, "after a year of dormancy after the electors portion of the investigation, after related witnesses have been told to appear before the grand jury with no chance for delay, these moves could signal jack smith's investigators are nearing at least some charging decisions as part of the 2020 probe." that's a big statement. because

this hearing comes after months of work by special counsel jack smith and his team. it represents, frankly a grave turn in the multiple investigations into donald trump. as mr. trump seeks to return to the white house, as the republican frontrunner, in an already divisive presidential campaign, our anchors and correspondents are covering trump's arrest and arraignment from every angle, including outside and inside the courthouse in florida where the former president will appear soon. joining us throughout the coverage, cnn anchor and chief correspondent kaitlan collins, she's outside the courthouse in miami. what are you learning about what's been happening in trump world at this critical moment for the former president and the nation? >> reporter: it is a critical moment, jake. a lot of his allies you're seeing publically come and rally to his defense. i'm told that's happening after the former president was up late into the night last night, before his scheduled arraignment here at the courthouse right behind me in a matter of hours from now. he was urging them to

because you don't expect that jay bratt has informed jack smith and that jack smith has informed the oh, by the way, these are the things that we did wrong. so, that's part of what we would present -- >> i think it's fair to assume that jay bratt has told him everything that he did -- >> i don't think that's fair -- >> let squeeze in a commercial. and we will come back for us for a minute. because i would love to get your view on what's going on with the florida grand jury. >> sure. >> okay. we will be right back. and while you're hittin' the trail, i'm hitting your cooler. and your cut-rate car insurance might not pay for all this. so get allstate. hey bud. wow. what's all this? hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this. i made a horrible mistake. ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis keeps flaring, put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable, i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. and left bathroom urgency behind. check.

and jack said, "no, no, no, no."show i never had that fear. [ laughter ] i became inured to that. jack walks into the -- and nobody -- you couldn't give him a ride jack walks into the emergency room, and the woman or the attendant, whomever it was at the desk, picks up the emergency phone, because jack's now covered with blood in his abdomen, "gunshot victim gunshot victim gunshot victim!" click. now everybody in the hospital comes running out toward jack. and they said, "where were you shot?" this and that. and jack said, "no, no, i wasn't shot i was bitten by a beaver." [ laughter ] and now the police hear that - now, this is a real violation, because the police come over and they say, "you know, there are no beaver in new york, sir." because they think they got -- who knows what they got? and he said, "no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the beaver is mine." [ laughter ] and the police said, "you're not allowed -- it's illegal to have a beaver in new york city. >> seth: sure. >> yeah. so he goes from being bitten by the b

i'm jack carter.ing up to inflation data and the fed rate decision has investors looking ahead to next week. i'll ask j.p. morgan strategist david kelly what he's watching, then the s&p 500 entering bull market territory thanks mostly to a big tech stock, can the rally last? later the biden academy versus the trump academy. we will show you the numbers. we begin with three things investors ought to be thinking about right now, the markets closing out the week higher and is a game over for gamestop in the mean trade, canadian wall wildfires causing a blake of smoke over the u.s. this week will take a look at the stocks that rallied in the aftermath. a new defect for boeing is causing the slowdown on his deliveries of the 787 dreamliner but airline stocks are continuing to soar as summer travel surges. on the barron "barron's roundtan levisohn carleton english and. it may not feel like it but it's official were a noble market how did that happen. >> we entered a bull market this week and we did in the m

>> i was going the ask but jack smith. i've heard critics say, listen, basically the trump supporters have the room to themselves. we haven't heard anything from the side of the prosecution. when are we going to at least figure out what is in these charges? >> right. so the indictment is sealed right now. as you noted, and garrett has been talking about this morning, the former president is filling that vacuum. any time there is a communications void, he will fill it. usually as merrick garland has said, they do their talking in court. but usually they're not up against a defendant like donald trump who has a mega phone as large as his is. we could expect the justice department to move to unseal the indictment. that motion itself would be sealed. so hopefully in the next couple of days, we might get more clarity on the dimension of the charges. maybe even get to see a company of the indictment itself. and there after, we might see jack smith or others on the department. justice make a public statement. because here, as and

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because you don't expect that jay bratt has informed jack smith and that jack smith has informed thegs that we did wrong. so, that's part of what we would present -- >> i think it's fair to assume that j.a. bratt has told him everything that he did -- >> i don't think that's fair -- >> let squeeze in a commercial. and we will come back for us -- i would love to get your view on what's going on with the florida grand jury. >> sure. >> okay. we will be right back. ill be right back. try head & shoulders shampoo. dandruff is caused by irritation to a germ that lives on everyone's scalp. unlike regular shampoo, head & shoulders contains zinc pyrithione, which fights the dandruff-causing germ and helps prevent it from coming back. it's gentle on hair and provides up to 100% dandruff protection, clinically proven. try head & shoulders shampoo and conditioner. for best results, use with every wash. this has been medifacts for head & shoulders. i think this is it guys? when the martins booked their vrbo vacation home, they really weren't looking for much: a patch of grass for bruno, a pool f

our time has been cut short by this breaking news from jack smith. very much for joining us. thank you. coming up, we will have more on the breaking news of the night. jack smith hinting over all of the grand jury testimony against donald trump to donald trump and his criminal defense lawyers. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. need relief for tired, achy feet? or the energy to keep working? there's a dr. scholl's for that. dr. scholl's massaging gel insoles have patented gel waves that absorb shock to hard-working muscles and joints, for all-day energy. i will be a travel influencer... hey, i thought you were on vacation? it's too expensive. use priceline, they've got deals no one else has. what about work? i got you. looking great you guys! ♪ go to your happy price ♪ ♪ priceline ♪ my husband and i have never been more active. ♪ shingles doesn't care.♪ i go to spin classes with

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special counsel jack smith getting giuliani. and that's at times the probe stalled out is intensifying under special counsel smith's leadership. you see giuliani there with trump and met with smith's team we can now report under an agreement that's called a proffer. we'll get into exactly what that involves, but it basically is a type of step or victory for jack smith because it means he's gotten giuliani to sit down and talk. it also could ultimately lead to a cooperation deal although that's not being reported yet. but there might be a great interest inside doj of getting everything they can out of giuliani or getting him to flip, providing material factual or otherwise on who else including donald trump may have been involved in crimes relating to the coup. now, giuliani has played many roles. he was of course a prosecutor himself. "the new york times" is one of the outlets that reported this, and they describe it as a, quote, voluntary interview. this is new breaking today. the interview itself they document as taking place

does anybody ever -- jack smith. it sounds so innocent. you were to think about on the one hand, jack smith did not use the podium or the bully pulpit in any way. contrast that to the person that's one of the defendants in this case, somebody who has honed his skills in being able to use these platforms to act as a kind of marionette to pull the strings on different narratives. what a contrast. i wonder how that's going to play out. >> this case will follow jack smith around for the rest of his life no matter how it comes out. >> coming up -- will this case affect the former president's status as the republican front-runner for the 2024 election, or will his supporters double down on their candidate? - here we go. - remember, mom's a kayak denier, so please don't bring it up. - bring what up? kayak? - excuse me? do the research, todd. - listen to me. kayak searches hundreds of travel sites to find you great deals on flights, cars and hotels. - they're lying to you. - who's they? kayak? - arr! - open your eyes! - compare hundreds of travel

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he was just attacking jack smith, which he also did in his speech tonight, attacking jack smith's wife, which he also did in his speech tonight, which i am ruling out of order here. but this kind of thing, he stop saying. and i'm thinking okay, now that he's indicted, he gets that he can't say that anymore. >> i think i remember neal saying wait, this is going to come. there's self control problem. but this is the job of the -- two have client control. they are trying to look out for a client's best interests. part of this is that donald trump is trying to deal with this on two tracks. he's trying to do this on political track. he's doing really lousy draw job of dealing with an illegal track. i think it's worth noting that in the courtroom, and insert a pretrial motions, the defense counsel can still make all sorts of arguments. the problem for them is the kinds of things that we've just been talking about, the statements that he is making. these will be used, if at all harmful to him will be used by the government. in the same way that you started by talking about e. jean carroll. he

so, jack smith is making a lot of progress here.oving the ball down the field tremendously. >> greg, your daughters are actually coming home from sleep away camp tomorrow, which is a problem, because you have a ton of work to do. brad raffensperger, meeting with special counsel's team today, what have you learned? >> well, i learned, i have some new details. the secretary met with federal prosecutors for about two hours earlier today. it was peppered with some of the questions posed by other federal investigations, including the january 6th committee, mainly about trump's infamous phone calls, infamous demand that he find exactly enough votes to overturn his defeat. there's always some other pressure that trump allies placed upon him to reverse the defeat. he's used to this by now. there's even a joke around the state capital that raffensperger can't even -- remember how many lawyers this talk to the last two years because of dysentery's phone call, and this being at the center of such scrutiny. but he definitely met for about two h

how damage is that moment laid out here by jack smith?> this may be personal to me, i think the deception worked against his own attorney's really struck me. in a way, it did vindicate them. that concerned me. >> vindicated his attorneys? >> his attorneys, yes. from all accounts in the indictment, they were trying to look for documents, according to the indictment, it was trump who kept moving them around and deceiving his own attorneys, and allegedly causing them to execute documents, the statements, to doj saying, we've looked and we found everything. for me personally, i think for lawyers everywhere, that was a spark of good news. for me, the most interesting character yesterday was not trump. it was walt nauta for a number of reasons. >> why? >> number one, he fills out the conspiracy. it begs the question of all the people in trump land, why is their only one coconspirator? i think for one reason, everybody else, doj may have contacted. raced into tell doj their story because they did not want to get caught up in this. certainly, you

he goes after jack smith's wife, calls him a deranged psycho and a picture of jack smith. so the attacks have just -- have just begun, andrew weissmann. >> well -- >> if you were his defense lawyer, what would you say? >> well, you of course want him to stop, i mean, this is exactly what happened in manhattan where there was the infamous picture of him with a bat and alvin bragg, attacks on the judge and their families. >> and we're showing you right now the rumor jack smith is going to be speaking. we want to reemphasize, it is not the department of justice. he does not have, you know, an official relationship with them on this case. >> can we ask robert ray that question, because -- >> let andrew finish the point that i just interrupted. >> sorry. >> look, attack is something that jack smith knows very well by taking this position that that's going to come, and it's really done -- it's not going to in any way deter anybody who is serving on the special counsel -- >> no, but millions and millions of people are reading this. >> absolutely. >> jack smith came from the hague

jack smith. sounds so innocent.ink about, on the one hand, jack smith did not use the podium or a bully pulpit in any way. contrast that to the person that's one of the defendants in this case. somebody who has honed his skills in being able to use these platforms to act as a kind of marionette, to pull the strings on different narratives. what a contrast. i wonder how that's going to play out? >> this case will follow jack smith around for the rest of his life. no matter how it comes out. >>> coming up, will this case affect the former president's status as the republican front-runner for the 2024 election? or will his supporters double down on their candidate? satisfaction, abilityr and road-test evaluations... and the results are in. subaru is the twenty twenty-three best mainstream automotive brand, according to consumer reports. and subaru has seven consumer reports recommended models. solterra, forester, outback, crosstrek, ascent, impreza, and legacy. it's easy to love a brand you can trust. it's easy to love

jack: please do.saying don't just buy the index don't buy the cheapest stocks on the russell? >> exactly i think there's something really interesting going on with the index itself and s&p 500 is trading at a multiple unpriced earning is trading 20 times on earnings. if you take out the biggest stocks in the nifty 50 or the biggest 50 stocks, the rest of the index is trading at a relatively low 15 times earnings. our view, if you stocks that are really driving the valuation up. right now is a much better time to look at older cyclical companies that can actually benefit from a lot of the text that we are hearing about. i have to say about i think a.i. is obviously a big driver of t tac. i think a.i. is more about old economy companies becoming more efficient they on technology company. i feel really bullish right now on the idea that we are finally in for productivity gains in the market which is something we have not seen for a very long time. >> that's another interesting chart you published recentl

does anybody ever -- jack smith. it sounds so innocent.f you think on the one hand, jack smith did not use the podium or the bully pulpit in any way. contrast that to the person that's one of the defendants in this case, somebody who has honed his skills in being able to use these platforms to act as a kind of marionette to pull the strings on different narratives. what a contrast. i wonder how that's going to play out. >> this case will follow jack smith around for the rest of his life. no matter how it comes out. >> coming up -- will this case affect the former president's status as the republican front-runner for the 2024 election, or will his supporters double down on their candidate? i have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis. so i'm taking zeposia, a once-daily pill. because i won't let uc stop me...from being me. zeposia can help people with uc achieve and maintain remission. and has been shown to reduce symptoms in as early as 2 weeks. zeposia is the first and only s1p receptor modulator approved for uc. don't take zeposia if you

jack smith's team today interviewed georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. the person to whom donald trump placed the phone call heard around the world. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> donald trump made that phone call on january 2nd, 2020, one it became public the next day. the next day, on january 3rd, 2021. every member of jack smith's prosecutorial team has known about that phone call since january 3rd, 2021. when it became public. they have all known about that phone call, just like the rest of us have known about that phone call, for over a year and a half before jack smith was even appointed as special prosecutor. here we are tonight. two and a half years after first hearing about that phone call, it is only today, that jack smith's prosecutors are interviewing georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger about that possibly criminal phone call that he received, two and half years ago. jack smith's investigation of donald trump's activities leading up to and on january 6th, seems to b