jack amberg is the senior director of veterans programs with the mccormick foundation after spending 26 years in the army. jack is nice to me welcome to the program. thanks for having me is a pleasure to be here. what are the economics of financial implications should the troop increase proposal come to the white house and be approved eventually? i did until final decisions are maybe one know the exact points but if we look back in history f y 07 was an increase for every 7200 troops to many to wonder increase was 510 million. for the training peace in the train peace means strain of afghan army etc. there was 5.5 billion that was just of 107 that was an increase. some 7000 troops a few years ago with a total price tag of about five and a half billion dollars. best correct. could take as a 40,000 thing you can do the math on how much is going to cost. so this extends not only with military operations but the equipment as well doesn't it? there's a lot that goes along with buying all the stuff. you need a liquid and don't forget the parts. all the transmission fluid those things have t